Pornstar vs Fetish Model vs Actress

[Ninja J.]

In my viewing experience of the Superheroine in Peril genre, I've noticed some fairly solid set of characteristics pertaining to the lead female playing the superheroine part based upon their primary occupation before entering the SHIP genre. For example, if you look at all the different SHIP female leads some would be much better in areas such as acting, sex appeal, hotness, etc. than others. If you lump all these model into the three categories pertaining to what occupation they're most noted for prior to entering the genre (Pornstar, Fetish Model, Actress), I see, ON AVERAGE, shared characteristics. With Pornstar, Actress, and Fetish Model, being the Model Categories, I created Characteristic Categories to go with them:
Hotness: On average how sexy, attractive the models from each Model Category are.
Acting: How well they deliver their lines, realism, acting during fight scenes.
Fighting: How well they perform during fights scenes, (realism, coolness, choreography.)
Kinky Stuff: How well they perform during fetish scenes (bondage, whipping etc.) Willingness to perform in them.
Eroticism: How erotic their performances are during scenes.
Sexual Peril: How well they perform during Sexual Peril scenes and willingness to be in them.
Nudity: Willingness to be naked.
In my experience in watching many SHIP vids, in my opinion, the quality of Characteristic Categories vary between the Model Categories.
DISCLAIMER: I don't mean to offend anyone. I understand everyone has different tastes. I also understand that this is open for debate and may vary between fans, actor and producer. I also understand that there are exceptions and total packages in each Model Category as well as overlap among Characteristic and Model Categories. I'm just going on average because each model category has someone that excels in every category. On average this is assessment on the three different model categories based on the Characteristic Categories.

Hotness: Pornstars: Excellent. Actresses: Good. Fetish Models: Not great.
Acting: Pornstars: Not Great. Actresses: Excellent. Fetish Models: Good.
Sexual Peril: Pornstars: Just OK. Actresses: No. Fetish Models: Excellent.
Eroticism: Pornstars: Good. Actresses: Not Great. Fetish Models: Excellent.
Nudity: Pornstars: Great. Actresses. No. Fetish Models: Great.
Kinky Stuff: Pornstars: Good. Actresses: Not Great. Fetish Models: Great.
Fighting: Pornstars: Not Great. Actresses: Excellent. Fetish Models: Good

My conclusion: PORNSTARS: Almost all pornstars are ok with nudity, mostly willing to perform sexual peril and have some experience in kinky stuff like bondage. Not to mention they are usually always smoking hot. They are pretty good at knowing what the males want to see due to experience in porn, looking and moving in erotic ways that look sexy, but little inexperienced in knowing what SHIP fans want to see, writhing, moaning, acting out the sexual peril scenes. The Cons are that most pornstars are horrific actresses. Some of the peril scenes are decently acted but anything outside of acting sexy is pretty embarrassing to watch. Some Pornstars sound like they are literally reading their lines off a cue card and their action sequences, while willing to tackle fight scenes, are usually poorly choreographed, completely ad libbed, or dumbed down to accommodate.
ACTRESSES: Actresses are of course, natural actors. They can actually deliver lines and blows they take sound realistic. Realism is a huge advantage to having actresses in SHIP. They also seem to excel at the fight scenes. Perhaps more time is given towards fight scenes without having to film any sexual peril. If true, that seems to be the trade off that sets Actresses apart from the pack. Regardless, the fight scenes are performed very well and the realism actresses bring is a huge asset. In the hotness category I gave them a "Good." There are many exceptions, some good some bad, but I believe on average actresses are good but not great in the hotness category. Although, I'm certain that can be debatable depending on what people are into. Actresses coming from model backgrounds as well, certainly bring the average of hotness up and not to mention the every day look other actresses have add to the realism which I'm sure appeals to many. The cons of the actresses are their unwillingness towards nudity, sexual peril, limited in doing peril of any kind if at all, and being erotic/sexy. What could be major Pros due to their acting background, are instead big disappointments. Things I want to see happen to a heroine don't because of Actresses unwillingness to do them. Great acting can only go so for in SHIP genre, at least in my opinion. I'm not encouraging actresses to do anything they don't want to do, but it's the "Peril" in SHIP I want to see, and if that's limited, that's a big negative for me. Not to mention, in some vids I've seen, I'm not even sure the actress knows what we are hoping to see. Many actresses don't move or act in any erotic way. Part of that may be the producer's fault but it's like they're afraid the FCC is going to cancel their show on cable. I can only speak for myself but I have a Superheroing fetish. Specifically, Superheroine in Peril fetish. Let's not pretend we're watching and hoping for anything else.
FETISH MODELS: I'll start with the CON because it needs explaining. I rate Fetish Models pretty low on the "Hotness" scale, but there are some gorgeous Fetish models out there. Not to mention the ones that aren't drop dead gorgeous have that cute girl next door look which is majorly hot. Unfortunately, what brings this category down is that many fetish models are trying to capitalize on the SHIP genre and some of those "models" just aren't attractive to me and no amount of anything can help get me excited to see any vids they are in. Fortunately, many models that very much lack in the hotness factor make up in spades in every other category. Fetish models are willing to do almost anything! Nudity? No problem. Sexual Peril? You got it. Bondage? You bet. Fetish models will do virtually anything and many already have experience in doing said things giving them an edge over Actresses and Pornstars. Fetish Models slightly lack in the acting department but they know exactly what SHIP fans want to see. They know how to moan and writhe, give that helpless look that more than makes up for their less than Academy Award winning performance. When it comes to fight scenes, they act them out surprisingly well and aren't afraid to get their hands dirty in learning the choreography and athleticism of fight scenes.

Final Thought: Each Model Category excels in some areas and struggle in others again on average. I suppose it's up to what you want to see in a SHIP film. If you want good acting, you hope for an actress. If you want to see a busty, super sexy model willing to do almost anything and don't care about fight scenes or terrible acting, Pornstar is probably your choice. If you want a someone that knows just how to squirm and moan and knows just how to act helpless, then Fetish Model is probably your best bet. Of course there are models that exceed all expectations and knock every category out of the park and as fans that's what we hope for in a female lead. However, I believe overall Fetish Models have the most plus side compared to the others. Unless you have a Gigi Allens (Total Package), I'm always more excited when a producer includes a Fetish Model in their vids.

Question: Agree? Disagree? Thoughts? Anything to add? I'm interested in hearing what everybody (consumers, actors, producers) on here think. I'm interested in hearing if producers consider the background experience of the model when they choose who will be in their films or if they just try to hire anyone that is willing to do whatever the film may dictate. Again this is just for fun and based upon my opinions toward films I've seen and the actors in it. It should not be interpreted as an attack on anyone's tastes or on any actress, model or producer.

[Mr. X]

My experience is porn stars are bad actresses, don't care about the material, will let you do ANYTHING, usually put no energy into anything. Fetish models are the best. We used to use strippers and they were good BUT once I started working with fetish models like Akira Lane and others there was a remarkable difference.

BTW stripper should be another category.

One thing I did discover about porn stars was that they tended to be a problem as far as drugs and attitudes (probably drug related). Like crying for no reason then laughing or doing drugs and being hyper wacky. One porn girl we hired, when I picked her up at the airport was cheering in the airport about how she was going to be a super heroine LOUDLY. Same when I took her to the grocery store to buy stuff for her stay. She definitely was on something. Plus they tended to bring boy friends along and these guys were usually what you expect. Now some porn stars were great. Rebecca Love was awesome. Smart and very professional. But in general I didn't like working with them cause they could get "weird" at times. We had one just walk off the set for no reason. We just had her on a lab table and was just panning the camera over her.

The trouble with the fetish models is there's a small set of them and so you see the same girls over and over. Plus if I want the super voluptuous models I have to go the porn or stripper route. Now there are some porn/fetish models like Goldy Blair who does hard core and fetish. I believe Akira Lane is doing porn now. So there are some good cross overs.

[sugarcoater]

Interesting topic. Perhaps to add to the discussion, some examples of each could be used to underscore the point (as an actress might be okay with some of the material that mighty qualify her as porn star).

[Ninja J.]

I kind of didn't want to use examples. I didn't want to offend fans of a certain model, anyone that had worked with or may be friends with a model or the model themselves. I will say that when I think of a total package model, which excel in all categories, I think of Gigi Allens for Pornstars, Paris Kennedy, Akira Lane or Randi Moore for Fetish Models, and Cassidy for Actresses. I think those are the standard bearers for each Model Category. Some of the Fetish Models dabble in porn and some Pornstars dabble in fetish so I get that there's overlap. I consider Paris Kennedy, Gigi and Cassidy to be primarily known as a Fetish Model, Pornstar and Actress respectively.

I didn't use Stripper as a category. I really didn't know many female leads that were primarily Strippers prior to entering the genre. I also didn't use "Model" as a category because there's tons of overlap. Many Actresses are in fact Models as well. However, someone like Ashley Rose who wasn't really a Fetish Model or Actress or Pornstar would definitely fit the definition of "Model." She also excels in every category so she's kind of a wild card, not really fitting in to any particular Fetish, Actress or Pornstar Category.

[Blx]

Very interesting stuff to read, Mr. X.

And yes, Akira Lane does hardcore porn now.

[Dazzle1]

I think they are enough fetish performers out there that are hot enough not to need a porn star (unless the porn star is willing to do everything that the fetish one would)

there are some porn stars who are not that hot also.

[scwank]

I hate to generalize, as there are exceptions in every category, but my biggest issue with the pornstar category is that a large number of them seem to have a certain "hardened" look to them, and don't play the virtuous superheroine type very well.

[Dragon1]

What would you call callie calypso who does it all and well?

[kingles]

What would you call callie calypso who does it all and well?

I'd say fetish actress, because that's what I know her from.

[kingles]

I'd say that overall, fetish actresses(as defined here) are my favorites. 'PG-13' actresses 2nd, and porn actresses 3rd...although there are certainly exceptions all around. To me, fetish actresses best achieve the balance between hotness, acting ability, understanding of the genre, ability to do believable fight scenes, willingness to do nudity/sexual content, and perform/sell various peril elements.

[decendingskulls]

I was just watching 'Vagrin's Task' this evening, and I am still astounded at how intense Rebecca Love's acting is, especially during certain scenes of her final battle with the demented Vagrin. I'm talking like oscar-worthy depiction of struggle and agony while staying in character that is frankly beyond what most people are capable of convincingly doing. I know the production is a little cheesy (ok maybe more than a little), but the direction and her performance is no joke. My point being, she's a pornstar. So in my book she was an exception to your findings. Yes I read your disclaimer that you acknowledge there would be exceptions. I just felt like pointing this one out.

[Mr. X]

Like I said Rebeca was awesome!

[decendingskulls]

Like I said Rebeca was awesome!

Indeed you did say that. I'm sorry I must have read your post too quickly and missed it, my bad

[CustomSuperheroines]

I produce both sides of PG and R now and there are benefits to both. However, that being said, I MUCH prefer working the PG side with actual actresses. They CARE about the project and the end result and have the ability to deliver great content. Some are better than others, but when it comes down to it, realistic mannerisms won't easily be found when utilizing adult actresses unless they also have an interest in mainstream acting (I have a few who do). I agree with everything Mr. X said as well and have experienced similar.

My shoot day is also 3x longer with adult actresses than mainstream ones. The obvious benefit is when it comes to sexually-oriented material, then of course adult actresses (pornstars or fetish models) will shine here-- it's what they do. But the bulk of my fan base seem to care more about a convincing performance than just sexual material which is why I don't produce too many films on the Rapture side-- it's exhausting at times to get a good video that doesn't look like a porn vid whereas I can work with mainstream actresses much easier and develop a story and series of events throughout and even get feedback and collaboration of how these videos unfold.

Those are my personal opinions from my personal experience... and each viewer is different. When it comes down to it, it really depends on when you're looking for out of the video. Nudity and sexual content or acting and embracing the Superheroine element convincingly.

[batgirl1969]

I think Pornstars that are willing to be penetrated are my favorite, it makes it more convincing that the action is real

[CustomSuperheroines]

Going along with this - what is the consensus about simulated blowjob vs one with a dildo? (real is not an option - we don't do nude male work)

[Heroine Addict]

Going along with this - what is the consensus about simulated blowjob vs one with a dildo? (real is not an option - we don't do nude male work)

I'm not sure I understand the question. Surely a simulated BJ is one which uses a dildo?

Or are you talking about a simulated BJ shot from the back of the head with no mouth action on display at all? (Basically just a girl bobbing her head up and down near a guy's crotch.)

I would propose a combination of the two styles. Shoot mostly from behind the girl's head, occasionally cutting to extremely brief shots of the dildo in her mouth. Make the dildo as realistic as possible and only show it for a few frames at a time, never lingering long enough to show that it's fake.

You could finish off the scene with a fake jizz mask. A close-up of the heroine receiving a faceful of cum.

All of this could look fairly authentic if shot and edited correctly. It's just a matter of using the fake cock sparingly. A few frames to show us the heroine's mouth is full of cock, but never for long enough for us to dwell on the fakeness of the cock.

[CustomSuperheroines]

Going along with this - what is the consensus about simulated blowjob vs one with a dildo? (real is not an option - we don't do nude male work)

I'm not sure I understand the question. Surely a simulated BJ is one which uses a dildo?

Or are you talking about a simulated BJ shot from the back of the head with no mouth action on display at all? (Basically just a girl bobbing her head up and down near a guy's crotch.)

I would propose a combination of the two styles. Shoot mostly from behind the girl's head, occasionally cutting to extremely brief shots of the dildo in her mouth. Make the dildo as realistic as possible and only show it for a few frames at a time, never lingering long enough to show that it's fake.

You could finish off the scene with a fake jizz mask. A close-up of the heroine receiving a faceful of cum.

All of this could look fairly authentic if shot and edited correctly. It's just a matter of using the fake cock sparingly. A few frames to show us the heroine's mouth is full of cock, but never for long enough for us to dwell on the fakeness of the cock.

There wouldn't be a fake one (dildo) at all. This is a comfort thing for the more mainstream actresses doing these videos. My question is really more about - is it worth it to even include a scene like that if it's all fake (head bobbing)?

[MightyHypnotic]

If you're not going to do the real thing, why bother? Just shoot something else. I think fake BJ's look horrible. Even more so when there's a dildo attached to it. What's the point?

[Mr. X]

If you're not going to do the real thing, why bother? Just shoot something else. I think fake BJ's look horrible. Even more so when there's a dildo attached to it. What's the point?

I agree and would add if you're going to do it, you have to have something good to look at. Getting a guy that big who's going to look good enough to see nude is going to be added cost. Same with the girl. Not all girls look good fully nude. I would say imply the act vs actually doing it.

[Heroine Addict]

There wouldn't be a fake one (dildo) at all. This is a comfort thing for the more mainstream actresses doing these videos. My question is really more about - is it worth it to even include a scene like that if it's all fake (head bobbing)?

Only if it's done very briefly. Maybe even as a single shot in a montage of different types of humiliation. A long head-bobbing scene would get very boring very quickly.

[theScribbler]

BJs suck! (I know, unoriginal.) Anyway, pleasuring the villain, who cares. Pleasuring a dildo, who cares. Only reason to do a bj is as another element to humiliate the superheroine. BJs longer than 60 sec is Fast Forwarding time to me. Heroine Addict's montage idea is a good one; lots of dissolves, different angles, superheroine profusely sweating and despondent after her 1 hour BJ ordeal giving it to multiple recipients.

@Logan: nevermind what I said above, I'm trying to throw others off the track. BJs are awesome. Your movies should have 20 to 130 minute BJ scenes in them.

[CustomSuperheroines]

If you're not going to do the real thing, why bother? Just shoot something else. I think fake BJ's look horrible. Even more so when there's a dildo attached to it. What's the point?

We've had a lot of requests for this so it was something I figured I would ask. We don't film anything with male nudity so it would either be completely simulated or done with certain actresses comfortable with performing the act on a dildo.

[Heroine Addict]

You asked a similar question recently about girls being penetrated by a guy wearing a strapon. These things seem like compromises due to the limits of actresses, rather than stuff people would actually ask for. I would be very surprised if a significant amount of customers specifically request guys screwing girls with strapons or girls fellating plastic cocks.

That's just weird.

[CustomSuperheroines]

You asked a similar question recently about girls being penetrated by a guy wearing a strapon. These things seem like compromises due to the limits of actresses, rather than stuff people would actually ask for. I would be very surprised if a significant amount of customers specifically request guys screwing girls with strapons or girls fellating plastic cocks.

That's just weird.

Obviously no one is going to ask specifically for a strap-on. It's more of a make-or-break question. I found that for the sex scene, the dildo/strap-on did not hurt it at all... no one cared-- at least not enough to deter them from watching the film.

Obviously this is a little different. The actress I am writing this script for is okay with a dildo-- but no penetration or actual male nudity. So while I'm putting together the 7 videos we have scheduled starting the 3rd, I want to just get a feel for whether we should not bother with it or if it's really going to matter or not. This isn't really a question of whether you would rather see a dildo or a real dick-- that's an obvious answer. It's whether the dildo is going to be a big enough detraction from watching the film.

I'm a guy. I know what the answer would be for me. BUT I wouldn't watch the film for the same reasons many of the viewers here would. I don't have this fetish. A lot of things I like, and I see the appeal to the superheroines... seen a few that I was like "damn, okay..." - but by no means would I go search for superheroines to get off to. However, I do enjoy creating the films and again, see the appeal. I also enjoy coming up with scenarios and working with the actresses with new things to get the feedback-- we did a few new things in The Wizard series already and I'm excited to see the reactions to those things.

For me, I wouldn't care if the dick was fake or not because this whole thing is fantasy-- none of it is real. The reactions are all simulated. The actions, the stories, the world... so, to me, a "prop dick" could be easily imagined to be real for the heroine when watching.

It's not like it's meant to be set in the real world-- these are a bit campy and completely fantasy-- but others may not share that opinion. And for the record, I don't see the point in the no dick simulated method... even for TV. Just say it was done and move on. But that's not what my question was about...

[ryorb]

I am one of those definitely on the side of this being another way of showing your power over the superheroine. Whether that be a physical power, hypnotic power, or coerced power is up to your story line, but without a doubt a properly filmed simulated bj should add to the heroine degradation scene. Rye did a great scene in Enthusiastic Participation using a dildo. Would the scene have been better if the dick was real - absolutely. But we understand the confines of the genre. So as some have suggested the scene should just show glimpses of the dildo with plenty of head bobbing action. And such a scene needs to be pretty brief since its just head bobbing. Looking back at Enthusiastic, Rye did a lot more than just long distance shots, and was able to capture the oral abilities of his actress - but she was an adult star and your actresses may not want it to go that far.

In summary, many on this and other forums are always complaining that all of the producers keep doing the same thing over and over. The BJ is something that hasnt been used very much at all and could be a great added feature on the defeat of a heroine.

[CustomSuperheroines]

I am one of those definitely on the side of this being another way of showing your power over the superheroine. Whether that be a physical power, hypnotic power, or coerced power is up to your story line, but without a doubt a properly filmed simulated bj should add to the heroine degradation scene. Rye did a great scene in Enthusiastic Participation using a dildo. Would the scene have been better if the dick was real - absolutely. But we understand the confines of the genre. So as some have suggested the scene should just show glimpses of the dildo with plenty of head bobbing action. And such a scene needs to be pretty brief since its just head bobbing. Looking back at Enthusiastic, Rye did a lot more than just long distance shots, and was able to capture the oral abilities of his actress - but she was an adult star and your actresses may not want it to go that far.

In summary, many on this and other forums are always complaining that all of the producers keep doing the same thing over and over. The BJ is something that hasnt been used very much at all and could be a great added feature on the defeat of a heroine.

Noted, and thank you for that-- I have a few ideas that may make it enjoyable and less noticeable that it's a dildo - her only request was that her mask is on while she gives the blowjob lol - but this character actually enjoys sex (and yes, she is a Heroine) so to humiliate her is going to be the challenge for The Wizard-- speaking of which, the 1st episode is finished and is rendering now for those of you who inquired before - should be up tomorrow

[MightyHypnotic]

Anyway, back to the subject on hand. I have an anecdote to add to this.
When I was in the NY area way back when, I was only doing PG material. There weren't a lot of fetish models in the area that I could use. There WERE a lot of mainstream actresses but all were very serious about their acting career (or modeling) and didn't want to jeopardize anything by performing in something that was deemed even remotely fetish, no matter how cleverly I thought I was disguising it. (Actresses are pretty smart cookies, they know when something's up ).

As a matter of fact, some of the girls that did audition were either currently acting in soaps or were trying to break in. (Soaps were the big thing in NYC at the time and they were always churning through young actresses for bit parts. If you were looking for a break into the biz, that was the easiest route)
So once it was on the table about what the content was and what it would be used for, most of the girls declined. So, yes, most mainstream actresses who are serious, and that almost always includes the hot ones, won't want to attach their name to a fetish-themed project. Unless of course it's big budget and stars James Spader

[CustomSuperheroines]

Anyway, back to the subject on hand. I have an anecdote to add to this.
When I was in the NY area way back when, I was only doing PG material. There weren't a lot of fetish models in the area that I could use. There WERE a lot of mainstream actresses but all were very serious about their acting career (or modeling) and didn't want to jeopardize anything by performing in something that was deemed even remotely fetish, no matter how cleverly I thought I was disguising it. (Actresses are pretty smart cookies, they know when something's up ).

As a matter of fact, some of the girls that did audition were either currently acting in soaps or were trying to break in. (Soaps were the big thing in NYC at the time and they were always churning through young actresses for bit parts. If you were looking for a break into the biz, that was the easiest route)
So once it was on the table about what the content was and what it would be used for, most of the girls declined. So, yes, most mainstream actresses who are serious, and that almost always includes the hot ones, won't want to attach their name to a fetish-themed project. Unless of course it's big budget and stars James Spader

lol yup... and now I'm in LA - same scenario except that we have adult actresses a-plenty here. But (without intentionally being disrespectful) most of them cannot handle serious acting of emotions or action sequences-- and more commonly, want to be finished in 4 hours or less-- which, as a producer, you know is not at all possible.

[Leadpoison]

I think there can be some value using a model that is willing to be penetrated by a prosthetic, especially in ShiP. The video where Gigi Allens is getting violated by a black tentacle comes to mind. I think visually it is less jarring if the prosthetic belongs to a monster or alien villain.

[CustomSuperheroines]

I think there can be some value using a model that is willing to be penetrated by a prosthetic, especially in ShiP. The video where Gigi Allens is getting violated by a black tentacle comes to mind. I think visually it is less jarring if the prosthetic belongs to a monster or alien villain.

You would need (most likely) an adult actress for that but we actually talked about something similar here. I will be playing an alien character with spores that leech on and make her cum.

[Heroine Addict]

If it's a masked superheroine, maybe you could hire a skilled fighter for the action sequences and an adult model for close-ups and sex scenes? Maybe even get one actress to loop all the dialogue for the character?

[Ninja J.]

Going along with this - what is the consensus about simulated blowjob vs one with a dildo? (real is not an option - we don't do nude male work)

A Punished Heroines vid featuring Ashley Rose had an amazing simulated BJ scene sans dildo. Granted Ashley sold it perfectly, the camera angles were perfect and the sound effects were perfect. It can be done. So I would say dildos are not required especially if it's a comfort thing. Using a dildo, I think, leaves you open to more options though regarding titty banging or actually seeing the heroine sucking on something. If I had to choose I'd say use a dildo if you can, but it's not a deal breaker if there's a simulated bj scene without the use of a dildo. I'm really glad real is not an option as I'd rather have the heroine bobbing her head to air than a real dong.

[harriertalon]

Tangent 1: Just to echo an earlier sentiment, Rebecca Love as Fusion is/was the gold standard (for me anyhow) for early SHiP videos.

Tangent 2: I think simulating a BJ with a dildo is fine provided there's a reason for it in the storyline (ie. you have a virtuous good girl heroine who is in need of serious humiliation) but in place of an actual one? Like someone else said, I'd be hitting the skip button. Actual penetration, via a machine? That's a whole different matter. But that's also a whole different fetish ( )

[Heroine Addict]

I think there can be some value using a model that is willing to be penetrated by a prosthetic, especially in ShiP. The video where Gigi Allens is getting violated by a black tentacle comes to mind. I think visually it is less jarring if the prosthetic belongs to a monster or alien villain.

That was a great video. Even though we didn't see any actual penetration, it was fun to see Gigi writhing around with the tentacle stuffed down her trunks.

[lonevillain99]

If you're going to use a fake "appendage"... Go all out. Make it blue or green or something. If the villain is a robot, alien, or whatever it actually makes more sense.

[tallyho]

If you're going to use a fake "appendage"... Go all out. Make it blue or green or something. If the villain is a robot, alien, or whatever it actually makes more sense.

You seem to know a lot about alien male genitalia....

[lonevillain99]

It was a crazy new years party dude, I don't remember a thing...

[TIEnTEEZ]

I, personally, don't care all that much if it's real or fake. It's a movie. It's ALL fake.