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SGZ6 Here,

Putting my Mod hat on (Puts Darth Vader Helmet on), just wanted to write up a few quick rules for the story section. All of these should be common sense to everyone here. You guys and gals have made my life easy as everyone here already follows these rules. I have had to do little modding (other than deleting SPAM) because of that and I thank our writers. If anyone ever has a question on them feel free to PM me.

1. NO UNDERAGE HEROINES/HEROES/ETC: Our stories range from PG to R here on the board which is fine. Just make sure all the main characters are 18 or over. Basically anyone involved in peril/sex/etc. As I said up above this had never really been a problem and I thank you all.

NO EXCEPTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2. NO GRUESOME TORTURE/VIOLENT DEATH: Again not really a problem, and by this I mean something you'd find in a snuff film or something. Another way to say this is, IF MH HASN'T DONE IT, THEN YOU SHOULDN'T. Again pretty common sense which nobody here has violated.

3. WHEN IN DOUBT USE COMMON SENSE: Which everyone here follows well. Have a question about something ask me viva PM.

4. NO THREAD NECROMANCY: We've got lots of stories on the board stretching quite a few years back. However if said thread is more than a year old please do not comment on it. It's great you want to give feedback but in the case of a really old thread, do it viva Private Message to the Author.

4b. NO RE-POSTING STORIES: Please do not re-post a story you've already submitted to the board.


I've never wanted to be a content Nazi so please don't take these rules to be a sign of that. As I've said everyone here does a great job and as a result makes my life easy. Thanks to all who write on the board and all our readers. Remember to give them feedback because, that just incourgaes us to write more.

Have a great day,
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For your helmet problem, try some liquid green K, then invite a particular Kryptonian Kutie to help remove it! :-D

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Danorian wrote:For your helmet problem, try some liquid green K, then invite a particular Kryptonian Kutie to help remove it! :-D

My 2 cents.
Hmm hadn't thought of that (goes for speed dial) :D
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Why are stories being deleted from this section?
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tmon wrote:Why are stories being deleted from this section?
Were stories deleted or did they get moved to the other section?

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tmon wrote:Why are stories being deleted from this section?
Were stories deleted or did they get moved to the other section?

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I moved some a while back to the Dungeon, forgot to leave a follow link in place. Any I move in the future will have that.
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it seems we have a new member posting stories. Unfortunately he probably has at least a 100 or more which are also available over at Hipcom forum. After he start posting the other writers just drifted out of the forum while their stories just overwhelmed by number. Somebody should do something.
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I quite agree. I think there should be a limit of one story at a time.
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Centurion wrote:I quite agree. I think there should be a limit of one story at a time.
I agree its overpowering but I posted two stories concurrently, and I just added to whichever one I was in the mood to write and others may well contribute the same way, so I think a 1 story limit is too far, but equally 33 or whatever we have now is way o.t.t.
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I don't mean that as an attack on creativity, I am happy for new members to post, but just believe in all things in moderation.
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I don't have a problem with more than one story, but each story should be just one thread. ie not a separate thread for each part. It would clean up the board if the different parts of the story were consolidated into one.

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My problem is he posts the same story here and at Hipcom. Probably because he isn't getting any feedback there.
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Long time no chat. Hope all is well.

I was going through some of our older stories back from the early days of this forum and began to wonder if there is any way of creating a sticky of the CHARACTER HANDBOOK. It makes for great source material and is still an excellent read seven years later.

Of course there should be some type of acknowledgement to our departed friend/mentor - cthulu1.

Just a suggestion.
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phoxy_brown wrote:S

Long time no chat. Hope all is well.

I was going through some of our older stories back from the early days of this forum and began to wonder if there is any way of creating a sticky of the CHARACTER HANDBOOK. It makes for great source material and is still an excellent read seven years later.

Of course there should be some type of acknowledgement to our departed friend/mentor - cthulu1.

Just a suggestion.
I can do that, I'll find the thread and post a sticky.
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That reminds me that we haven't see American Star in a long, long time! Any chance of a new story?
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It looks like cthulu went back and deleted the character handbook! What do say we start compiling another one? Creators could do profiles of their own characters and readers could contribute profiles of their favorite characters. The only drawback is they wouldn't be in alphabetical order. What do you think?
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Here's another thing I want to bring up. The other day someone bumped an old story from 2010! Now, I definitely do NOT want to discourage you from leaving public comments! Writers need feedback like we need air to breathe! But this only confuses things. We all read this story three years ago and suddenly out of the blue it's at the top of the queue again? And not because the writer had updated it; someone just left a comment. So please, if you must comment on a story that's over six months old, send the writer a PM or an email.
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Centurion wrote:Here's another thing I want to bring up. The other day someone bumped an old story from 2010! Now, I definitely do NOT want to discourage you from leaving public comments! Writers need feedback like we need air to breathe! But this only confuses things. We all read this story three years ago and suddenly out of the blue it's at the top of the queue again? And not because the writer had updated it; someone just left a comment. So please, if you must comment on a story that's over six months old, send the writer a PM or an email.
Good Point in fact that's going to be a new story rule.
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I'm not sure about this coming in as a rule as there are what 400 stories here and not everyone has read them all. I think someone posting a comment helps draw attention to a story that might be overlooked - I hadn't read the recently commented on TOSG story that was from 2009, but it got a reply, I noticed it, read it and enjoyed it. Helped focus on a fun little adventure.

I'm just not sure there should be a statute on comments. I appreciate its been brought in as a rule now but maybe things like this should be decided by a poll?
If you have read the story how hard is it to look at the posted date (you can tell if something had a few thousand views that its been around a bit)
I've read only around 20-30 stories here so far , (don't have the time) someone drawing attention to something they have liked is a help.

I'm not against it coming in if that's how it is and most people feel the same, and I do appreciate it can be frustrating if you think something is new and you have already read it, but is it really a problem warranting a rule?

Just felt a poll would have been a good option in this case, where its more a rule on accepted protocol than actual content.
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tallyho wrote:I'm not sure about this coming in as a rule as there are what 400 stories here and not everyone has read them all. I think someone posting a comment helps draw attention to a story that might be overlooked - I hadn't read the recently commented on TOSG story that was from 2009, but it got a reply, I noticed it, read it and enjoyed it. Helped focus on a fun little adventure.
That's a good point. I remember that story and was glad to be reminded of it. But looking at it from the index page, you can't tell the date it was first posted, only the date of the last comment. Your first assumption (if you don't recall the title) is that it's a new story. That's cool if it's a good story, but not so cool if it's a story you read three years ago and didn't like.

I go browsing in the old stories every now and then, when I have some spare time. But if you bump every good story you read, the forum would be a mass of confusion. I prefer to leave them more or less in the order they were originally posted. That's my take on it at least.
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Most forums I have participated in, a thread that garners a comments is bumped up. Generally, if it's being commented on, that makes it a current topic. Personally, I think that if you read a story you like, you ought to be able to comment on it in the thread. I am new here, though, so take what I say with a grain of salt. Just my humble opinion, though.
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Is the final call about posting on stories to not do it if they are over a year old? I've had time to go through some of the stories of the past and I've really been enjoying a few hidden gems, and I would comment on one or two of them if it is permitted. If something hasn't moved for between 13-16 months, is that beyond the pale, or can I still comment on it? No harm done if so - I can pm the writer.
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Maybe it's best to stick to the rule and pm them the authors if there has been no activity in those threads in 12 months. Whoever is interested in what you found can also pm you, like I'm going to do right now. :)
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It's often ignored anyway and lately two stories from 2009 and 2011 were commented on. I personally think it's great to discuss something someone liked and since the original date of posting is shown now, if people have read an old story they can just ignore it, so I think the anti -posting argument is fairly moot.
I think it would be cool as an author to have long forgotten stories raised again (I stress it's never happened to me!)

I discovered two nice little older works a while back because someone passed comment. With something like 500 stories on the board I welcome someone pointing me in the direction of something good. Plus when you pm some authors as I did you might not get a response as they no longer frequent the forum for whatever reason.
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Not to be a complainer but I notice a lot of the authors don't finish their stories which is annoying.
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Bronson881 wrote:Not to be a complainer but I notice a lot of the authors don't finish their stories which is annoying.
Best thing to do is to ask them to.

Forums which I write on, those that I've written on the most, are the ones where I've felt my work has been appreciated. So if you read a story, and you like it, say so. Writers are the same whether they just won a Pulitzer prize or if they write slash fic on a Star Trek board- they like to be told that their work is enjoyed.

Tell people you like their work and you'll see more of it. Nothing like feeling appreciated to motivated a writer, especially for free. :)
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OK I will. Thanks.
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Can we ask for requests here?
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049billygoat wrote:Can we ask for requests here?
No, there's a story idea thread, please go there. Like this its sticky at the top.
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A rule of what writers experience. :hmm:
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I just noticed the "THREAD NECROMANCY" rule. To be honest, it seems silly to me. The rules sticky appears to be aimed at writers of stories. Why would anyone who came here simply to read stories even bother to click on the rules sticky? Asking people to not comment on a story they just read robs the writer of an opportunity for feedback. If an older story draws a comment and gets bumped, what is really lost? This rule is confusing, impossible to enforce and discourages part of the lifeblood of a writer - actual interest in their work.
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That's a good point, though I'd nitpick and say it's trivial to enforce (just delete the new comment and give a warning! :L)

I think the bump rule is to prevent old stories from jumping over new stories and preventing them from reaching the limelight, which is an issue maybe in erotica sites like literotica, maybe even fanfiction.net, etc. However, those sites receive tens if not hundreds of submissions a day, which makes it an issue.

For this forum, with maybe one submission a week, I think it's less of an issue, so I think Bert makes sense.

Then again, we could always PM the author as the rules say.
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I don't want to say it is rare, but it is infrequent that a story from page 2 or beyond of the forums make it back to front and center stage, and even then they are probably one of the "classics" held in high regard (or if it was one of mine, the reader was drugged, paid, or not legally capable of using a mouse n keyboard!) And I highly doubt that it is the rules that causes this state of affairs, it's just general commenting apathy that is to blame.

Really I would only hope the rule would be enforced on writers dragging their old works to the fore; a story being punished for receiving an independent comment even though it is a little old hardly seems fair. In all honesty I've seen the necro abuse happen with only one "story" (note the "'s) which is over in the dungeon story section, and it was so blatant and repetitive it was laughable. In fact, it should set the legal standard as to what Necromancy really is LOL.
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I've always been against this rule. God knows its hard enough to get people to comment on stories as it is without limiting the time they have to do it.
For my money all comments are valid regardless of when they were made and if a good story reaches a new audience all well and good.

Originally part of the reason for it was that the posts did not display the creation date and so Centurion in particular objected to wasting time clicking on a story that he may have read years ago that someone else had commented on and pushed it to the top of the board.

I always maintained that mostly you could tell a new story over old by the number of views they had (which WAS displayed) but in the end his view held sway.

Given now the created date IS listed I'm all for ignoring it
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tallyho wrote:
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I've always been against this rule. God knows its hard enough to get people to comment on stories as it is without limiting the time they have to do it.
For my money all comments are valid regardless of when they were made and if a good story reaches a new audience all well and good.

Originally part of the reason for it was that the posts did not display the creation date and so Centurion in particular objected to wasting time clicking on a story that he may have read years ago that someone else had commented on and pushed it to the top of the board.

I always maintained that mostly you could tell a new story over old by the number of views they had (which WAS displayed) but in the end his view held sway.

Given now the created date IS listed I'm all for ignoring it
The number of views don't always say how old a story is. I think views should be judged for popularity and not age. For example, Guardian Angels was written 14 years ago and has 4,800 views. viewtopic.php?f=9&t=306

Sapphire Angel was written 10 months ago and has 6,800 views. viewtopic.php?f=9&t=31680
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GeekyPornCritic wrote:
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The number of views don't always say how old a story is. I think views should be judged for popularity and not age. For example, Guardian Angels was written 14 years ago and has 4,800 views. viewtopic.php?f=9&t=306

Sapphire Angel was written 10 months ago and has 6,800 views. viewtopic.php?f=9&t=31680
To be fair I wouldnt judge popularity by view count either. When someone clicks into a story they have absolutely no idea if it is good or not till the page opens. That "view" might be either a reader fully engrossed from start to finish, or ten seconds of scanning the length/quality/style, sighing and then leaving.

Personally, I dont mind if an old story comes back to the front. It's great to know people are looking for them when I guess video content is out there to be bought. So it is good to see written stories still have their place and people come to look for them. What I do mind is repetitive, blatant, story resurrection by original posters (or known alternate ID's), or back-catalogue flooding (stories moved here from other sites by authors), but that is another thing.
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GeekyPornCritic wrote:
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tallyho wrote:
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I've always been against this rule. God knows its hard enough to get people to comment on stories as it is without limiting the time they have to do it.
For my money all comments are valid regardless of when they were made and if a good story reaches a new audience all well and good.

Originally part of the reason for it was that the posts did not display the creation date and so Centurion in particular objected to wasting time clicking on a story that he may have read years ago that someone else had commented on and pushed it to the top of the board.

I always maintained that mostly you could tell a new story over old by the number of views they had (which WAS displayed) but in the end his view held sway.

Given now the created date IS listed I'm all for ignoring it
The number of views don't always say how old a story is. I think views should be judged for popularity and not age. For example, Guardian Angels was written 14 years ago and has 4,800 views. viewtopic.php?f=9&t=306

Sapphire Angel was written 10 months ago and has 6,800 views. viewtopic.php?f=9&t=31680
Geeky, the point was that you can tell if a post at the top of the page that wasnt there yesterday or even last week is NEW or has been around a while by the number of views. If posts have 4,800 views its not likely to be a new story added since you were last in the section 2 days ago. Hence my use of the term 'mostly'

Its just a rule of thumb from the days when we didnt have the start dates listed. I had over 500 views in a day once but I put that down to mostly bot activity. For some reason Centurion objected to wasting a few seconds by clicking on a story he had previously read if he didnt remember the title and reading it. We all have our bugbears and that was one of his.

It (view count) was a guideline nothing more and certainly view numbers bare no relation to quality of story. But the fact that someone would feel the need to comment on a long ago story I would hope would mean that it has hit a chord with that reader and that's all we as writers are trying to do. That in itself would imply the story has some merit. I cant envisage a long dead story to get a mention if it were complete crap.

If I was unaware of Shakespeare I would want someone to tell me about his work even if its 450 years old. So I never saw the point in restricting responses based on longevity. Plus whilst its never happened to me I would imagine its a buzz for the writer to know his work is still reaching people years after it was written.
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