customs

[the123]

hi
I need some help could anyone tell me what Producer I should talk to have a custom video made thanks.

[heroinehunter]

I can only answer this with my own experience:

There are any number of producers you can go to in regards to getting a custom done. Most producers already have their custom terms on their website, so just read and take notes. Some you might have to contact by email and send your script into them - they will get back to you with an estimate on how much it will cost to make.

I would first start with producer's works that you actually enjoy. Since you already viewed their work and they 'inspired' you somehow, you would feel like it will be the best match to the vision that you have in your mind's eye.

I first went to an veteran that has been in the fetish business for about twenty years. She has her own production company and I have always enjoyed her work. As much as I would have loved for this model to do my custom, her estimate cost was far too much for something that I viewed as rather straight-forward (and I think the fact she knew I was a long time fan jacked up the price). The next producer I contacted was semi-retired (perhaps produces one video a year now - and ironically the inspiration for my custom in the first place) and recommended contacting the model he just worked with- one that did not have her own production company and did not fill the role at all. Third time was the charm.

Shop around. Find the best match at the right cost. Remember that you do not have to agree to the first offer made to you. And the only downside I forsee is that you might have someone say 'no, thank you' / cost too much, take your custom idea, and make it their own version anyway. (Here's where I get the hate mail, but there's no denying it's within the realm of possibilities...).

As to whether I would to do another after getting my one made - I'm very happy with what I have and there's other things to do in life. 'Get Wonder Woman-esque Custom' done is now scratched off the bucket list.

call me - 'the guy that advised Tarkin to evacuate before the Death Star blew up'.

[loveit23]

Bluestone does a group custom where you don't have to spend a lot of money . I spent 2 hundred and got everything i asked for plus more !
they just did one called Supernova prime earthbound check it out it was hot !!! Oh and they give you 2 versions a peril version and an extreme
version !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TIEnTEEZ]

It depends a lot on exactly what kind of content you want.

Cali Logan has done several excellent videos for me at very reasonable prices. She tends to have a very limited selection of models, but she puts in a lot of extra effort to give you what you want and make good quality videos.

Primal does great customs. They have a lot bigger model selection, but most of them are pretty obscure or even complete amateurs (or at least I never heard of them outside of Primal) - which is not to say that they aren't good.

If you can tell me what kind of video you want and what kind of content, I might be able to point you in the right direction. I would select different producers for a fighting video than I would for a bondage video. And some producers don't do hard-core and some do, so if you want that, it limits your options.

[the123]

has anyone of you had a custom made from customvideos4u.

[kendrajames]

Shoot me an email if you're interested:) I work with both models from Los Angeles and Tampa/Miami.
xox
www.KendraJamesCustoms.com
www.KendraClips.com
[email protected]

hi
I need some help could anyone tell me what Producer I should talk to have a custom video made thanks.

[TIEnTEEZ]

has anyone of you had a custom made from customvideos4u.

Nope, can't say I have ever tried them. I just went to the site and looked at it - isn't it weird that they have NO samples and no list of videos you can buy? I dunno if I would take a chance on a producer like that without seeing some of their work.

Also... and this is just me... I don't like submitting my custom idea via a web interface. Maybe your custom script can fit into that little box with a couple of fetish options. But I write detailed scripts for mine and the best producers are the ones who are willing to discuss the script, the cast, and the details with you via e-mail and maybe even toss around ideas.

If I send someone a script and they send me back a quick e-mail with a quote like "I will do this for $xxx" I run the other way. If they ask questions about the details of the script, the casting, the costumes - that's a producer I want to buy a custom from. That's someone who cares about giving the customer want they want instead of just knocking off the cheapest product they can for as much money as they can get.

[the123]

thank you I will keep looking and see who I should go with.

[TIEnTEEZ]

Like I said, if you can give me more details about what kind of content you want, I can be more specific.
Cali Logan has consistently done great work for me.
My one custom video from Primal was an excellent experience. In fact, I just sent them another script.

I order a lot of femdom customs - mostly not superheroine related, so I've had a lot of experience with a lot of the femdom performers on Clips4Sale and I'd be more than happy to tell you which ones have done right by me and which to avoid if that's your thing.

I personally would not deal with Alex Bettinger again.
I did not have a good experience in my communication with xxxtremecomics.
Ashley Graham blatantly stole my money, disappeared, and never provided me with the video or a refund.
I've heard good things about Anastasia Pierce although I never ordered from her personally.

I did buy a custom from Kendra James once. She was totally professional, reliable, and seemed interested in producing a great video for me. To be perfectly honest, I didn't end up loving the finished product, but it was a fairly vague script with a lot of ad-libbing in it, so I can't exactly fault her for not totally GETTING my fetish and what I imagined for the video in my head when it wasn't down on paper. Sometimes that's just what it comes down to - finding a producer who really understands your particular fetish.

[GeekyPornCritic]

It really depends on what you are looking for.

If you want hardcore movies then contact a producer with hardcore movies.
I had great experiences with Primal Fetish. Michael is good at communicating to customers. He shot my custom to perfection. I may buy another custom from him soon.
My first custom was from xxxtremecomics and I enjoyed the final product. I had a good experience in communication with them.

[heroinehunter]

If I send someone a script and they send me back a quick e-mail with a quote like "I will do this for $xxx" I run the other way. If they ask questions about the details of the script, the casting, the costumes - that's a producer I want to buy a custom from. That's someone who cares about giving the customer want they want instead of just knocking off the cheapest product they can for as much money as they can get.

Okay, since we are now talking real experiences from real customers that actually bought customs and are now trying to help out a brother/sister (sorry to all those fake posts / friends of the producers that claim the vid is always fantastic no matter what they do):
Christina Carter is as described above - quick email back, did not look at the script, and wanted over a thousand for it. A rip-off.
ZFX Productions - is semi-retired and kindly passed giving a recommendation. Understandable and appreciated.
Rachel Steele - didn't even get back to me (probably a good thing)
Alex David - the absolute best in collaboration and communication. As described above, someone who does care about the custom and works with you to make sure YOU get what YOU want.

-call me 'the guy that advised Tarkin to evacuate before the Death Star blew up.'

[TIEnTEEZ]

Alex David - the absolute best in collaboration and communication. As described above, someone who does care about the custom and works with you to make sure YOU get what YOU want.

I second that. I did not actually end up getting a custom from Alex because when I told her what I wanted, she basically told me she didn't want to take my money because she wasn't sure she could pull it off. Now that's a producer who really cares about making her customers happy.

[kendrajames]

Please email me directly and let me know which video please:)

Like I said, if you can give me more details about what kind of content you want, I can be more specific.
Cali Logan has consistently done great work for me.
My one custom video from Primal was an excellent experience. In fact, I just sent them another script.

I order a lot of femdom customs - mostly not superheroine related, so I've had a lot of experience with a lot of the femdom performers on Clips4Sale and I'd be more than happy to tell you which ones have done right by me and which to avoid if that's your thing.

I personally would not deal with Alex Bettinger again.
I did not have a good experience in my communication with xxxtremecomics.
Ashley Graham blatantly stole my money, disappeared, and never provided me with the video or a refund.
I've heard good things about Anastasia Pierce although I never ordered from her personally.

I did buy a custom from Kendra James once. She was totally professional, reliable, and seemed interested in producing a great video for me. To be perfectly honest, I didn't end up loving the finished product, but it was a fairly vague script with a lot of ad-libbing in it, so I can't exactly fault her for not totally GETTING my fetish and what I imagined for the video in my head when it wasn't down on paper. Sometimes that's just what it comes down to - finding a producer who really understands your particular fetish.

[lionbadger]

If I send someone a script and they send me back a quick e-mail with a quote like "I will do this for $xxx" I run the other way. If they ask questions about the details of the script, the casting, the costumes - that's a producer I want to buy a custom from. That's someone who cares about giving the customer want they want instead of just knocking off the cheapest product they can for as much money as they can get.

I'm not sure this is entirely fair. Some producers have been in the business for a long time and have build successful careers on their ability to give the customer what they want. It is also quite likely that one of the main issues for a person commissioning a custom is the price. There is no reason that the price cannot be settled on and then any minor tweaks and inconsistencies ironed out later. I would also guess that the likes of Christina Carter get a lot scripts that are no serious so it is to my mind unfair to complain about a short sharp response which is possibly aimed at figuring out if you are serious or if you're another joker who thinks a 40 minute video can be made for $200.

[heroinehunter]

I actually quoted TIEnTEEZ's paragraph from an earlier post. And I'm in complete agreement with it. Run the other way.

[TIEnTEEZ]

If I send someone a script and they send me back a quick e-mail with a quote like "I will do this for $xxx" I run the other way. If they ask questions about the details of the script, the casting, the costumes - that's a producer I want to buy a custom from. That's someone who cares about giving the customer want they want instead of just knocking off the cheapest product they can for as much money as they can get.

I'm not sure this is entirely fair. Some producers have been in the business for a long time and have build successful careers on their ability to give the customer what they want. It is also quite likely that one of the main issues for a person commissioning a custom is the price. There is no reason that the price cannot be settled on and then any minor tweaks and inconsistencies ironed out later. I would also guess that the likes of Christina Carter get a lot scripts that are no serious so it is to my mind unfair to complain about a short sharp response which is possibly aimed at figuring out if you are serious or if you're another joker who thinks a 40 minute video can be made for $200.

I totally get what you are saying here. I am SURE that lots of producers are constantly bombarded with e-mails from people who are completely unprepared for what a custom will cost and end up wasting that producers time. In addition, I'm sure there are lots of lowlifes who try all kinda of ridiculous scams and bullshit stories to try to get a video made for free or try to pull something over on the producer. I have no doubt that such people exist and are very annoying for video producers.

However... if you offer custom videos you are running a business. And if you run your business on the assumption that every person who e-mails you is an idiot or worse, then you are going to offend real potential customers and that's the price you pay. I do customer service as part of my job and if I treated my customer's like that, I wouldn't have very many left.

If I get a reply back that says something like,"Hey, I would love to do this script for you, but before we discuss the details, I just want to make sure you know that it's going to cost in the neighborhood of $xxx. Before we go any further, is that within the price range you were thinking of?" Then that's something I can work with. But if I get back, "I can do this for $xxx" and that's it, and they don't even take the time to suggest that they even read the script or that they are interested in discussing the details or the casting, then I still say RUN THE OTHER WAY. Because I have dealt with producers like that and in my experience they generally just want to take your money and make something kinda vaguely similar to what you asked for and don't really care all that much if they get it right or if you are happy with the result.

[TIEnTEEZ]

Please email me directly and let me know which video please:)

Like I said, if you can give me more details about what kind of content you want, I can be more specific.
Cali Logan has consistently done great work for me.
My one custom video from Primal was an excellent experience. In fact, I just sent them another script.

I order a lot of femdom customs - mostly not superheroine related, so I've had a lot of experience with a lot of the femdom performers on Clips4Sale and I'd be more than happy to tell you which ones have done right by me and which to avoid if that's your thing.

I personally would not deal with Alex Bettinger again.
I did not have a good experience in my communication with xxxtremecomics.
Ashley Graham blatantly stole my money, disappeared, and never provided me with the video or a refund.
I've heard good things about Anastasia Pierce although I never ordered from her personally.

I did buy a custom from Kendra James once. She was totally professional, reliable, and seemed interested in producing a great video for me. To be perfectly honest, I didn't end up loving the finished product, but it was a fairly vague script with a lot of ad-libbing in it, so I can't exactly fault her for not totally GETTING my fetish and what I imagined for the video in my head when it wasn't down on paper. Sometimes that's just what it comes down to - finding a producer who really understands your particular fetish.

I sent you an e-mail reply to the thread in which I originally got the video. But once again, I just want to make it absolutely clear that I had no problem with the service I got from you. There are just certain intangibles in any custom video. I'm very picky and some content producers just GET me - they just click with what I want, and some don't. It's like chemistry - sometimes two people have it and sometimes they don't. Some producers just 'click; with me and some don't and there's no way I can put it into words. The video I got from you was absolutely what I asked for - it followed the script I wrote as closely as I had any right to expect.

[kendrajames]

Thanks for writing and letting me know! I'm a bit perturbed (with myself) simply because your video was solo in a category for which I'm well known (not a superheroine video) and generally I feel like I have a great understanding of because of my background as a dominatrix. I guess you're right though, sometimes the chemistry isn't there:( I do hope you decide to order again though - superheroine or even if it's to shoot another model solo

Please email me directly and let me know which video please:)

Like I said, if you can give me more details about what kind of content you want, I can be more specific.
Cali Logan has consistently done great work for me.
My one custom video from Primal was an excellent experience. In fact, I just sent them another script.

I order a lot of femdom customs - mostly not superheroine related, so I've had a lot of experience with a lot of the femdom performers on Clips4Sale and I'd be more than happy to tell you which ones have done right by me and which to avoid if that's your thing.

I personally would not deal with Alex Bettinger again.
I did not have a good experience in my communication with xxxtremecomics.
Ashley Graham blatantly stole my money, disappeared, and never provided me with the video or a refund.
I've heard good things about Anastasia Pierce although I never ordered from her personally.

I did buy a custom from Kendra James once. She was totally professional, reliable, and seemed interested in producing a great video for me. To be perfectly honest, I didn't end up loving the finished product, but it was a fairly vague script with a lot of ad-libbing in it, so I can't exactly fault her for not totally GETTING my fetish and what I imagined for the video in my head when it wasn't down on paper. Sometimes that's just what it comes down to - finding a producer who really understands your particular fetish.

I sent you an e-mail reply to the thread in which I originally got the video. But once again, I just want to make it absolutely clear that I had no problem with the service I got from you. There are just certain intangibles in any custom video. I'm very picky and some content producers just GET me - they just click with what I want, and some don't. It's like chemistry - sometimes two people have it and sometimes they don't. Some producers just 'click; with me and some don't and there's no way I can put it into words. The video I got from you was absolutely what I asked for - it followed the script I wrote as closely as I had any right to expect.

[KnightsofGotham.com]

If I send someone a script and they send me back a quick e-mail with a quote like "I will do this for $xxx" I run the other way. If they ask questions about the details of the script, the casting, the costumes - that's a producer I want to buy a custom from. That's someone who cares about giving the customer want they want instead of just knocking off the cheapest product they can for as much money as they can get.

I'm not sure this is entirely fair. Some producers have been in the business for a long time and have build successful careers on their ability to give the customer what they want. It is also quite likely that one of the main issues for a person commissioning a custom is the price. There is no reason that the price cannot be settled on and then any minor tweaks and inconsistencies ironed out later. I would also guess that the likes of Christina Carter get a lot scripts that are no serious so it is to my mind unfair to complain about a short sharp response which is possibly aimed at figuring out if you are serious or if you're another joker who thinks a 40 minute video can be made for $200.

I'm with you on tbhis thought.
If asomeone emails me with a custom and i read it over and everything they ask for I can give, have access to, have wardrobe for, then there is no reason whatsoever to pick apart the custom back and forth. thats pointless. if someone emailst away witha quote you could run away and maybe lose out on the perfect cvustom because they were.....gasp....prepared for your custom

[TIEnTEEZ]

If I send someone a script and they send me back a quick e-mail with a quote like "I will do this for $xxx" I run the other way. If they ask questions about the details of the script, the casting, the costumes - that's a producer I want to buy a custom from. That's someone who cares about giving the customer want they want instead of just knocking off the cheapest product they can for as much money as they can get.

I'm not sure this is entirely fair. Some producers have been in the business for a long time and have build successful careers on their ability to give the customer what they want. It is also quite likely that one of the main issues for a person commissioning a custom is the price. There is no reason that the price cannot be settled on and then any minor tweaks and inconsistencies ironed out later. I would also guess that the likes of Christina Carter get a lot scripts that are no serious so it is to my mind unfair to complain about a short sharp response which is possibly aimed at figuring out if you are serious or if you're another joker who thinks a 40 minute video can be made for $200.

I'm with you on tbhis thought.
If asomeone emails me with a custom and i read it over and everything they ask for I can give, have access to, have wardrobe for, then there is no reason whatsoever to pick apart the custom back and forth. thats pointless. if someone emailst away witha quote you could run away and maybe lose out on the perfect cvustom because they were.....gasp....prepared for your custom

That's not an unreasonable point. However, I write custom scripts as Word documents with images and they are generally 5-8 pages long. I include a LOT of detail, dialog, etc. So no one is prepared for MY customs.

[AnastasiaPierce]

hi
I need some help could anyone tell me what Producer I should talk to have a custom video made thanks.

Shoot me an e-mail with details of what you want. Length, models, props and a short summary of the script, thanks!!

[AnastasiaPierce]

And many of you are correct producer (like me) get bombarded by fake custom video propositions. Got 5 requests just this morning and it is not 9am yet . It gets difficult to figure out who is serious and who is sending bull crap request for the thousand times under a new e-mail address...

I do my best to answer everyone, real or fake custom and I get crazy things at times. You would not believe..

One of my favorite lately that is never going to happen plot was:
"Sad superheroine gets greeted by happy super heroine. She gives her a candy bar, sad super heroine smile, they hug. The End ! "

A 30 sec custom video... willing to pay $20.
yes let me hire a model that will want $600 (no matter what), setup lights for an hour, get ready and in costume for that... sure that is worth the $20 that person was willing to pay. Let's be reasonable and realistic.

Thanks everyone!!!
Lots of love
Anastasia

Looking forward to be shooting more real custom stories!!! And thank you to everyone who has commissioned me in the past for custom stories!!

[KnightsofGotham.com]

And many of you are correct producer (like me) get bombarded by fake custom video propositions. Got 5 requests just this morning and it is not 9am yet . It gets difficult to figure out who is serious and who is sending bull crap request for the thousand times under a new e-mail address...

That is a curse tyo be sure. When Evangeline was handling all the emails she would get dozens of emails a day from guys looking to "Talk one handed" with her about customs and then dont commit after they talked their way through.
The idea that they are talking WITH A WOMAN about their sexual desires is enough for them to get off and therby not need to order a custom.

Once she stopped handling them and I started handling them those request got boiled down to almost zero once they realized it was a 6'4 260 pound bald guy with a bikers beard talking to them. suddenly they were no longer interested.....perhaps hiring a Male part timer to answer your custom email requests might be the way to go.

A 30 sec custom video... willing to pay $20.
yes let me hire a model that will want $600 (no matter what), setup lights for an hour, get ready and in costume for that... sure that is worth the $20 that person was willing to pay. Let's be reasonable and realistic.

we get this one as well. its like no one has made it clear to them that shooting with a model requires you to hire a model for a minimum amount of time. they feel its perfectly logical for a model to make her way to you from lord knows how far away and film something for 20 seconds and then get $10 for her trouble.

in their minds a custom is only as long as they see it in their heads and requires no shoot time/ editing time/ prep time/ makeup and wardrobe
and lets be honest. even if the model were staying in your home already and was willing to shoot a 20 second clip the amount of time needed for hair and makeup is worth a lot more than just $20

[TIEnTEEZ]

we get this one as well. its like no one has made it clear to them that shooting with a model requires you to hire a model for a minimum amount of time. they feel its perfectly logical for a model to make her way to you from lord knows how far away and film something for 20 seconds and then get $10 for her trouble.

in their minds a custom is only as long as they see it in their heads and requires no shoot time/ editing time/ prep time/ makeup and wardrobe
and lets be honest. even if the model were staying in your home already and was willing to shoot a 20 second clip the amount of time needed for hair and makeup is worth a lot more than just $20

It's a fact of life that it's often very hard to see things from someone else's point of view. This is true in all businesses and in all walks of life. And when your primary target customer is a guy with a hard-on, who probably isn't thinking all that clearly, I'm sure it's a big problem.

So I can see why it may not have occurred to someone who never ordered a custom before that making a 20 second video is not feasible.

It took me a long time and a lot of experience to understand what's involved in making a custom, what can reasonably be accomplished and what the impediments are. And even now I still occasionally come up with scripts that are just not doable for reasons I hadn't foreseen.

[KnightsofGotham.com]

we get this one as well. its like no one has made it clear to them that shooting with a model requires you to hire a model for a minimum amount of time. they feel its perfectly logical for a model to make her way to you from lord knows how far away and film something for 20 seconds and then get $10 for her trouble.

in their minds a custom is only as long as they see it in their heads and requires no shoot time/ editing time/ prep time/ makeup and wardrobe
and lets be honest. even if the model were staying in your home already and was willing to shoot a 20 second clip the amount of time needed for hair and makeup is worth a lot more than just $20

It's a fact of life that it's often very hard to see things from someone else's point of view. This is true in all businesses and in all walks of life. And when your primary target customer is a guy with a hard-on, who probably isn't thinking all that clearly, I'm sure it's a big problem.

So I can see why it may not have occurred to someone who never ordered a custom before that making a 20 minutes video is not feasible.

It took me a long time and a lot of experience to understand what's involved in making a custom, what can reasonably be accomplished and what the impediments are. And even now I still occasionally come up with scripts that are just not doable for reasons I hadn't foreseen.

she said 20 seconds not 20 minutes.

[TIEnTEEZ]

Yeah, that's what I said. *whistling innocently*.

[heroinehunter]

My statement in regards to Christina Carter is fair and true.

[tallyho]

In fairness to CC she does have a very detailed custom page itemizing approx costs for a 10-12 min 2 model vid and starting from $725 , which when you look at the breakdown seems perfectly reasonable to me

http://www.christinabound.com/customvideo.html

Given you may have said' I am after a 2 girl 20 minute clip with WW and CatWoman and heres the script ' , with the itemized costings she may well have said 'thats gonna be at least X thousand dollars' before getting into any details just to see if you were serious or not. You have to remember that there are variations in renting studios or editing costs in different parts of the country so whilst someone with their own studio might charge you X for that, someone who has to hire a studio might have to charge XX.Likewise models have different rates.

I just dont think its fair to label it a rip off is my point. You might be able to make a vid for $600 in Wisconsin and that same vid will cost $1500 in LA or wherever.

All i would say to the op is the concensus seems to be to avoid Ashley Graham given other members experiences as evidenced on threads here.

[Doctor Outcome]

And many of you are correct producer (like me) get bombarded by fake custom video propositions. Got 5 requests just this morning and it is not 9am yet . It gets difficult to figure out who is serious and who is sending bull crap request for the thousand times under a new e-mail address...

I do my best to answer everyone, real or fake custom and I get crazy things at times. You would not believe..

One of my favorite lately that is never going to happen plot was:
"Sad superheroine gets greeted by happy super heroine. She gives her a candy bar, sad super heroine smile, they hug. The End ! "

A 30 sec custom video... willing to pay $20.
yes let me hire a model that will want $600 (no matter what), setup lights for an hour, get ready and in costume for that... sure that is worth the $20 that person was willing to pay. Let's be reasonable and realistic.

Thanks everyone!!!
Lots of love
Anastasia

Looking forward to be shooting more real custom stories!!! And thank you to everyone who has commissioned me in the past for custom stories!!

One of my favorite lately that is never going to happen plot was:
"Sad superheroine gets greeted by happy super heroine. She gives her a candy bar, sad super heroine smile, they hug. The End ! "

That doesn't sound like much of a plot, Anastasia. Odds are they might be having trouble trying to expand on the idea of what they want to see. Now, I'm no psychologist or anything but if this person is doing a story about a superheroine needing some 'cheering up' after a bad defeat, then odds are they may want something where the superheroine wants or needs a 'happy ending' (figuratively and literally speaking) at the hands of a fellow 'super'. Keep in mind, not all superheroine fetish stories have to start or end with the hero getting the 'blunt end' of the stick at the villain's hands. Also, it's always good to try to get the customer to expand on the idea a little or offer some fetishes that they might be interested in seeing. It wouldn't be right for them to ask you or your co-star to do something that you're not comfortable with performing.

Which brings me to my next point: often times, the customer has to worry about limitations because they may not know what the performer or their co-stars are comfortable with performing. Also, they may not ask for much to see if they have a limited budget and they may be trying to keep things to a minimum (most producers don't just charge on time limits and co-star, they also charge for the kinds of content that are used and usually 'hardcore' content is what ups the ante a great deal in most of these productions). So that's something else to keep in mind for the future...find out what kind of budget the customer has to work with. If it's below what you need, let them know what your terms are and if they can roll with it, they'll probably 'green-light' you. If it's beyond what they can pay, they may 'walk'. But before you slap the price tag on the idea Anastasia, try to iron out the details first:

-Who do you plan to commission? (or let the customer decide first. If they're having trouble choosing someone, make suggestions on who you think would work for the idea)
-Do you have the props or outfits necessary for the idea? (Find out what kinds of outfits they want you to wear and if it's something you already own or need to purchase)

It's all about the dialogue, Dr. Ether. If there's no 'real' communication between you and the customer, the idea may 'flatline' before it even has a chance to take a breath. Do whatever you can to breathe life into the idea.

[Doctor Outcome]

Ooh baby-doll, I am loving these responses! This is some good stuff right here and it’ll make for great research for what my homegirl and I are working on right now.

First, I’ll look at this from the producer’s point of view using the example Anastasia gave:

‘Sad Superheroine gets greeted by happy superheroine. She gives her a candy bar, sad superheroine smile, they hug. The End!’

I’ll admit, that does seems like a rather short request (and very odd as there doesn’t seem to be much of a story or sexual content involved). ‘What exactly was the person looking for in terms of content?’ is the first question I’d ask myself. Maybe they’re looking for a happy ending or something else along that nature, who knows. But if the customer doesn’t expand on the idea, odds are the custom may not be worth doing especially if they don’t push the envelope. If you feel the idea is ‘too short’ or doesn’t have the right content, by all means, as the producer or performer you have the right and the power to let them know this. But at the same time though, it’s good to try to get them to open up about what it is that they want to see so it’ll be easier to create. If you have to, let them know that you *can’t* help them if they don’t give you something to work with.
Remember, the eye and the mind need detail in order for the artwork to come to life…without that, the artist will just be staring at a blank canvas.

Now from the fan’s point of view:

Something that we all have to bear in mind is that there are a lot of ‘newbies’ out there who are just now getting into this kind of…’entertainment’. While some have an idea of what it is they want to see, others may need some help expanding on their ideas. If you are able, willing, ready and have the time, help them ‘expand’ on their ideas a little bit, then by all means go for it. If you can’t cater to what they ask for, you can always point them in the direction to somebody you know who can (it’s not offensive to the customer if you do that). Hell, Lady Diana did it with my friend Star for her ‘Ada Knight’ idea when Lady Diana announced that she wasn’t able to perform anymore due to her retirement from the business and she didn’t want to let a fan down, so she pointed Star in the direction of several people she knows who might be able to help her. Though Star is still searching, she hasn’t given up hope and that’s what Diana inspired in her…to have hope that someone will want to create her idea for her one day. There are people here on the forums who have given input and ideas on who can help Star out and that hands down is a good thing because it shows the principle of ‘people helping their fellow man or woman out’.

Another thing to look at is that if the script is short, don't look at it as a bullsh*t request. Odds are the customer may be worried about ‘limitations’. While some fetish models have limitations on what kinds of content they’ll perform and even more so who they’ll perform it with, others are limitless (they couldn’t give a damn about what they do or who they do it with and that takes guts in this industry and that’s mainly the reason why some are still in the game pushing forward today). Some fetish models will only perform certain kinds of activity with people of the ‘same gender’ while others will do things with both genders. If you have limitations or if the person they ask for has limitations, you can make that known also, but don’t let this stop you from creating the idea they ask for. If you have some suggestions about 'replacements' who can go in your place or the model’s place that they’ve asked for, then by all means ‘life your voice and sing it out loud’ to them.

Basically, requests now should be about ‘trying to go the distance for the fan’.

[Doctor Outcome]

If I send someone a script and they send me back a quick e-mail with a quote like "I will do this for $xxx" I run the other way. If they ask questions about the details of the script, the casting, the costumes - that's a producer I want to buy a custom from. That's someone who cares about giving the customer want they want instead of just knocking off the cheapest product they can for as much money as they can get.

Okay, since we are now talking real experiences from real customers that actually bought customs and are now trying to help out a brother/sister (sorry to all those fake posts / friends of the producers that claim the vid is always fantastic no matter what they do):
Christina Carter is as described above - quick email back, did not look at the script, and wanted over a thousand for it. A rip-off.
ZFX Productions - is semi-retired and kindly passed giving a recommendation. Understandable and appreciated.
Rachel Steele - didn't even get back to me (probably a good thing)
Alex David - the absolute best in collaboration and communication. As described above, someone who does care about the custom and works with you to make sure YOU get what YOU want.

-call me 'the guy that advised Tarkin to evacuate before the Death Star blew up.'

Oooh baby-doll, I love the way you think! Now here's a fan who has an idea on how customs are suppose to work!

I agree with everything heroinehunter has just said here. If a producer tries to slap you with a price tag without ironing out all the details first, odds are they care a little bit more about the money and that’s kinda what does send people running in the other direction and that’s never good for business. But if they take the time out of their busy schedule to work with you, then that’s somebody you can continue doing business with. It’s even better if they ask you what your budget is and if it’s not within the range the producer likes, it’s always good to ‘push the envelope’ a little and ask them what they’re price terms are. If you feel it’s something you can roll with after the details have been worked out, then by all means go for it. Kendra James is a perfect example: she always irons out the details with her clientele and will even ask what kind of budget they have before she says whether or not she'll take the job. And the best part is that if you're not asking for much, she always gives a good price range that you can work with. Check out this review and you'll see what I'm talking about: (viewtopic.php?t=27933)

The customer D.Z. was very impressed with her work and even more pleased that Kendra went the 'distance' on her behalf. She even got a veteran performer (Angela Sommers) that D.Z. liked and for the price that Kendra had helped set for the custom. D.Z. even told me that when she gets the chance, she would definitely hire Kendra again because she was professional and showed concern for the project. Just hearing that tells me that Kendra is the 'real McCoy' for pitching custom ideas to.

I love Christina Carter’s work as much as the next person and she creates picturesque works of art at her production studio. Even before C.C. Productions came into play, she was the most sought after fetish model in the business and still is today and she kinda does charge a pretty penny for her work on clips4sale but she does work hard for it. I wouldn’t say Christina’s price ranges are a quote on quote, “rip-off” but I do feel that the prices she sets for some ideas aren’t reasonable. One person asked why does she charge so much for superheroine customs and we later learned that the reason her prices are so high is because ‘she has a crew to work with’. So it’s not just Christina and her guest star(s) who have to be paid, she has a crew that has to eat also and I fully respect what Christina is trying to do for her production crew.

Now, here’s kinda where the waters get a little muddy for me (please note, this is not a personal attack, just an observation on my part): I recently spoke to a couple online and a few others on a different forum who had given Miss Carter some custom ideas and said that she tried to hit em hard with a $3,000 dollar price tag. Something about that didn’t feel nor taste right so I asked these people to either show me their ideas or tell me what they were looking for. Most of what I saw was pretty simple stuff (about 1-2 pages long, maybe three pages. Content was light with softcore: ‘make-out scene’ here, forced orgasm there, etc. Nothing you’d really call ‘hardcore’ stuff.) Most of what they wanted to see was a simple ‘make-out scene’ and I was like ‘$3,000 dollars for a make-out scene? Are ya' joking me?’

Maybe some producers base their prices differently or maybe the prices change via content, I’m really not sure. The only time someone puts a $3,000 price tag on a fetish request is if the material is longer than usual, has hardcore sexual content (rough sex, ménage a troi, etc.) or if there’s more than one fetish model present (which Christina has had with her Cats Eye custom stories). Those factors alone would definitely generate a higher price tag. But honestly, I have *never* nor will I *ever* pay $3,000 for something as small as two people swapping kisses or forcing someone to orgasm against their will. For that amount, they’re gonna have to do a little bit more than just lock lips, let me tell ya’.

Don't get me wrong, I want my money's worth but if it's beyond what I can spend...

[AnastasiaPierce]

Here my friends, another exciting plot that ends before it even starts received today.

I would like to let you know that I did answer this "customer" and let him know that I could shoot his/her story on a day where I am shooting another story with a model hired for the day. So yes I said I would shoot it and give him/her a very reasonable price for it. But explained I can not hire someone in particular just for it. I was very polite in the e-mail. BUT I know it's fake once again.....

My professionalism makes me answer anyone inquiring about customs but it is obvious (at least to me) that this is not going to happen.
But please prove me wrong.

Here is the master piece. I thought you mind find it entertaining. Oh and I must add that I received 3 e-mails on the same day about it. Because it must be urgent and requires an immediate answer of course. And it is Sunday and I must answering e-mails right away of course. Why should I take the day of?

I am not making fun just giving you a peek at what it is like on my side. Patience and professionalism is always required but bullshit is obvious!

Love you guys!! And Thank you for the REAL customs you allow me to shoot for you.
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[athenaartemis]

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[Mr. X]

Isn't that the plot of nearly every porn flic out there? There's got to be like 10,000 flics that do exactly that.

[TIEnTEEZ]

In fairness to CC she does have a very detailed custom page itemizing approx costs for a 10-12 min 2 model vid and starting from $725 , which when you look at the breakdown seems perfectly reasonable to me

http://www.christinabound.com/customvideo.html

Given you may have said' I am after a 2 girl 20 minute clip with WW and CatWoman and heres the script ' , with the itemized costings she may well have said 'thats gonna be at least X thousand dollars' before getting into any details just to see if you were serious or not. You have to remember that there are variations in renting studios or editing costs in different parts of the country so whilst someone with their own studio might charge you X for that, someone who has to hire a studio might have to charge XX.Likewise models have different rates.

I just dont think its fair to label it a rip off is my point. You might be able to make a vid for $600 in Wisconsin and that same vid will cost $1500 in LA or wherever.

All i would say to the op is the concensus seems to be to avoid Ashley Graham given other members experiences as evidenced on threads here.

Yeah, I'm on the fence on this one. I sent Christina a script a long time ago and got back a price quote that nearly knocked me out of my chair. She wanted $8,000!

On the other hand, the script I sent her was, I now realize, completely outrageous. It had 4 main performers, plus some extras, original costumes, and a multi-chaptered story with special effects and fight scenes and bondage, etc. I was new to the whole custom video thing back then and had no idea of the realistic limitations of such a thing.

So was her price quote out of line? I dunno.

My feeling is that her prices tend to be a bit high. But on the other hand, she produces tremendously high-quality videos. So is it a rip-off? Or is she just an expensive boutique shop?

Overall, I don't think "rip-off" is a fair description. She has the right to charge whatever she wants to charge and if people are willing to pay it, that's not a rip-off, that's just smart business.

[heroinehunter]

For mine, Carter wanted $2000. It's a straight forward vid (if you want to know what it is look up my posts). There's no way I would pay that for any custom from anyone. It's not so much about the price (you are shopping around after all - do not have to commit) , it was the negative way it was handled. That kind of experience makes a consumer not recommend a producer - in the end, that's what this thread was originally about. A consumer basically asking, "I want to make a custom. What producer do you recommend?"

I stand by my statements.

Let's face it: both consumers and producers have horror stories to tell.

-"...think of the shareholders, man!!"

[Doctor Outcome]

For mine, Carter wanted $2000. It's a straight forward vid (if you want to know what it is look up my posts). There's no way I would pay that for any custom from anyone. It's not so much about the price (you are shopping around after all - do not have to commit) , it was the negative way it was handled. That kind of experience makes a consumer not recommend a producer - in the end, that's what this thread was originally about. A consumer basically asking, "I want to make a custom. What producer do you recommend?"

I stand by my statements.

Let's face it: both consumers and producers have horror stories to tell.

-"...think of the shareholders, man!!"

I love that you stand by your assessment, heroinehunter. Looks like custom ordering has become a 'double-edge sword' because it's no longer the customer that gets cut anymore.

[Doctor Outcome]

Here my friends, another exciting plot that ends before it even starts received today.

I would like to let you know that I did answer this "customer" and let him know that I could shoot his/her story on a day where I am shooting another story with a model hired for the day. So yes I said I would shoot it and give him/her a very reasonable price for it. But explained I can not hire someone in particular just for it. I was very polite in the e-mail. BUT I know it's fake once again.....

My professionalism makes me answer anyone inquiring about customs but it is obvious (at least to me) that this is not going to happen.
But please prove me wrong.

Here is the master piece. I thought you mind find it entertaining. Oh and I must add that I received 3 e-mails on the same day about it. Because it must be urgent and requires an immediate answer of course. And it is Sunday and I must answering e-mails right away of course. Why should I take the day of?

I am not making fun just giving you a peek at what it is like on my side. Patience and professionalism is always required but bullshit is obvious!

Love you guys!! And Thank you for the REAL customs you allow me to shoot for you.
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(confusion setting in)

Is this a rough draft, an outline or the final production, Anastasia? Cause this looks too cut and dry to be an actual script. But I'm a 'glass half-full' kind of person, so I'm gonna try to look at this from both ends of the spectrum:

I'm studying and analyzing it and from my analysis, this looks like a simple 'femdom' production as opposed to a superheroine script. I’m not seeing any superheroine names or costumes so maybe what this person wants to see is you ‘dominate another female co-star’. If you can convince them to turn it into a ‘superheroine’ production, then that’s one turning point that can help this idea get off the ground. The only real problem that I’m seeing with this script is that it looks ‘incomplete’. I mean, it’s ‘skin and bones’ straight to the point but it’s practically a ‘skeleton’ that could use some flesh.

In either case Anastasia, before you say yes or no to the request, find out if this is the final product. If it is and you feel that it’s too short for your tastes, let the customer know that so your time isn't being wasted. If you feel it could use more to it, you can suggest they add something to give it some flare, but let them know that it’s going to up the ante on the price. Best case scenario, find out what kind of budget they have to work with and if the figure they give doesn’t work, tell them what your terms are.

If you get a custom request, set the terms and the customer makes no attempt to respond to you in a ‘timely manner’, then you can call ‘bullshit’. But as long as you go the ‘distance’ and try to meet them halfway on their ideas and they’re willing to meet you halfway on your terms when they respond, then ‘bullshit’ can’t be called. In the end, since it’s the customer’s money, the customer has the ‘final say’ on whether or not you should proceed with the idea. If they choose to walk, know that they’re doing so on their ‘own terms’ and nobody else’s just like ‘heroinehunter’ and TIEnTEEZ’ said in their posts.

At most, the customer may try to get a feel for the producer to see if they will truly try to work with them in bringing their fantasy to life and where the customer is concerned, that’s a little more important. Remember…not every request is gonna have an automatic ‘green light’ to proceed, but don't let that discourage you. As long as you’ve made the attempt to go the distance on the fan’s behalf, you can lie your head down at night knowing that you gave it your best shot to help them.

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[AnastasiaPierce]

Here my friends, another exciting plot that ends before it even starts received today.

I would like to let you know that I did answer this "customer" and let him know that I could shoot his/her story on a day where I am shooting another story with a model hired for the day. So yes I said I would shoot it and give him/her a very reasonable price for it. But explained I can not hire someone in particular just for it. I was very polite in the e-mail. BUT I know it's fake once again.....

My professionalism makes me answer anyone inquiring about customs but it is obvious (at least to me) that this is not going to happen.
But please prove me wrong.

Here is the master piece. I thought you mind find it entertaining. Oh and I must add that I received 3 e-mails on the same day about it. Because it must be urgent and requires an immediate answer of course. And it is Sunday and I must answering e-mails right away of course. Why should I take the day of?

I am not making fun just giving you a peek at what it is like on my side. Patience and professionalism is always required but bullshit is obvious!

Love you guys!! And Thank you for the REAL customs you allow me to shoot for you.
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IMG_8730.PNG

(confusion setting in)

Is this a rough draft, an outline or the final production, Anastasia? Cause this looks too cut and dry to be an actual script. But I'm a 'glass half-full' kind of person, so I'm gonna try to look at this from both ends of the spectrum:

I'm studying and analyzing it and from my analysis, this looks like a simple 'femdom' production as opposed to a superheroine script. I’m not seeing any superheroine names or costumes so maybe what this person wants to see is you ‘dominate another female co-star’. If you can convince them to turn it into a ‘superheroine’ production, then that’s one turning point that can help this idea get off the ground. The only real problem that I’m seeing with this script is that it looks ‘incomplete’. I mean, it’s ‘skin and bones’ straight to the point but it’s practically a ‘skeleton’ that could use some flesh.

In either case Anastasia, before you say yes or no to the request, find out if this is the final product. If it is and you feel that it’s too short for your tastes, let the customer know that so your time isn't being wasted. If you feel it could use more to it, you can suggest they add something to give it some flare, but let them know that it’s going to up the ante on the price. Best case scenario, find out what kind of budget they have to work with and if the figure they give doesn’t work, tell them what your terms are.

If you get a custom request, set the terms and the customer makes no attempt to respond to you in a ‘timely manner’, then you can call ‘bullshit’. But as long as you go the ‘distance’ and try to meet them halfway on their ideas and they’re willing to meet you halfway on your terms when they respond, then ‘bullshit’ can’t be called. In the end, since it’s the customer’s money, the customer has the ‘final say’ on whether or not you should proceed with the idea. If they choose to walk, know that they’re doing so on their ‘own terms’ and nobody else’s just like ‘heroinehunter’ and TIEnTEEZ’ said in their posts.

At most, the customer may try to get a feel for the producer to see if they will truly try to work with them in bringing their fantasy to life and where the customer is concerned, that’s a little more important. Remember…not every request is gonna have an automatic ‘green light’ to proceed, but don't let that discourage you. As long as you’ve made the attempt to go the distance on the fan’s behalf, you can lie your head down at night knowing that you gave it your best shot to help them.

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I did send the customer a quote for his very short custom and he responded that his budget was half of what I was asking. So I replied by telling him that I would shoot it for his budget (very small) and guess what. He never sent the money... I can smell fake a mile away!
It's the survival of the producer. LOL

[the123]

hi can someone give me information on what producer is better to have a custom video made by here is a list of them

xxxtremecomixxx

cory chase

cali logan

Anastasia pierce

tracy Jordan

Tanya Danielle

Kendra james

torvea films

ludella hahns

knights of gotham

[KnightsofGotham.com]

hi can someone give me information on what producer is better to have a custom video made by here is a list of them


knights of gotham

I would say we are at the bottom of the list.

our superheroine custom clients that are regulars tend to be looking for something simple and inexpensive. so if you're looking for a simple custom we might be able to help but if you're looking for a more complex, several locations, fight scenes and expensive customs you should remove us from your list

[Ripper1]

I'd say you had to give some sort of type of custom your looking for ?

[TIEnTEEZ]

Didn't we go through this already? :-P

[Doctor Outcome]

hi can someone give me information on what producer is better to have a custom video made by here is a list of them

xxxtremecomixxx

cory chase

cali logan

Anastasia pierce

tracy Jordan

Tanya Danielle

Kendra james

torvea films

ludella hahns

knights of gotham

Try Kendra James first. She'll give you your money's worth and she is easy to negotiate with as are Knights of Gotham.

I've had two people I know (one got a custom through Kendra) and the other got one done through Knights of Gotham and both producers went the distance for their clientele for the customs they asked for.

Cory Chase might be another one to try out for but I don't know what her prices run. If you like gunplay content, Cory does that.

[Doctor Outcome]

hi can someone give me information on what producer is better to have a custom video made by here is a list of them


knights of gotham

I would say we are at the bottom of the list.

our superheroine custom clients that are regulars tend to be looking for something simple and inexpensive. so if you're looking for a simple custom we might be able to help but if you're looking for a more complex, several locations, fight scenes and expensive customs you should remove us from your list

You shouldn't be. You should be at the top. My friend told me about that custom request that you did for him last year. He was very happy with the work you and Evangeline did for him. You always go the distance for people and you're able to give them a good run for their money.

[xxxwarriorxxx]

I have heard nothing but great things from most, if not all of them. Knights of Gotham really does have great customer service in my opinion and will listen to the customer and make sure everything is catered to their needs and wants, all at a very reasonable price.

[KnightsofGotham.com]

I have heard nothing but great things from most, if not all of them. Knights of Gotham really does have great customer service in my opinion and will listen to the customer and make sure everything is catered to their needs and wants, all at a very reasonable price.

I want to take a moment to thank you and everyone else who has said nice things about us.
We do try but there is an obvious difference between what Christina, Kendra, and Anastasia puts out and what we put out.

The most obvious way i can put it is that they make high end steak at a 5 star restaurant and we make 5 guys burgers.
its not as bad as Mcdonalds and when you want a burger its easier to go to 5 guys than walk into a high end restaurant.

I have my place and I understand its not at the top with those guys.
Lets be brutally honest.
I enjoy making customs and enjoy the work but when you want a high end production and you can afford it you go to other people.
some of the complaints about us have merit.
We dont have a professional fight coordinator, we have access to limited locations, and while we do have superior costumes and green screen abilities thats not always enough for some who want more bells and whistles.

While I really appreciate the love and recognition i think its safe to be reasonable and stay within the limits of reality.


If after saying all of that anyone interested please feel free to contact me directly or you can join our mailing list which sends out mailings monthly with a list of whos available. Anyone ordering a custom from our mailing list also gets a further reduced rate for productions and we give away frequent free customs and free movies when ordering.

https://visitor.r20.constantcontact.com ... 4003df1a99

again thanks to all who said such nice things.

[heroinehunter]

We already went over this subject matter friends.

Do your own homework!!

-call me 'the guy that advised Tarkin to evacuate before the Death Star blew up.'

[heroinehunter]

oh, gee. here's the same question posted by the same person weeks ago...

READ!!!!!!!

[the123]

custom videos made not by passion but greed.