Supergirl Season Four

[brdiy]

I really want this show to last long, but the writing is just making it unwatchable!

[dajinx1]

I really want this show to last long, but the writing is just making it unwatchable!

Seems like the ratings hasn't been good lately either. Rumors are that next season could be the last.

[DrDominator9]

I think that's a false rumor about Supergirl being cancelled by the CW after next season. It's ratings have been quite steady between 1 million and 1.4 million per episode...and that's with schedule gaps and night shifts that could have sunk other shows. There are many other CW shows that only pull in half a million to 800,000 viewers like Riverdale. So unless there's a big drop in the Supergirl ratings it'll keep going for a while I believe.

[GeekyPornCritic]

We may finally get some action Sunday night!

The Elite VS Super Friends! Who will win?

[infogeek247]

It is about time for Supergirl to be more Super. That was the point of the Superman comic the episode was named after.

I am supposing she will get her ass kicked by the Elite, then realize she needs help, and then take them down a peg. But the next show's synopsis has the Elite back as they disrupt Liberty's protest.

[brdiy]

I think that's a false rumor about Supergirl being cancelled by the CW after next season. It's ratings have been quite steady between 1 million and 1.4 million per episode...and that's with schedule gaps and night shifts that could have sunk other shows. There are many other CW shows that only pull in half a million to 800,000 viewers like Riverdale. So unless there's a big drop in the Supergirl ratings it'll keep going for a while I believe.

I believe the rumor is coming off the fact that a Supergirl movie is in development, and knowing that DC wants to avoid movie and TV versions co-existing as much as possible.

[infogeek247]

Right now, I don't think it's worth worrying about. The show still has good ratings, been renewed for another season, and I think things will pick up. Maybe a concurrent movie would also help the show. You never know.

[GeekyPornCritic]

I enjoyed tonight's episode. There was a little more action in this episode. The Elite is a legitimate squad of villains. They are surging with synergy.

[RedMountain]

It is about time for Supergirl to be more Super. That was the point of the Superman comic the episode was named after.

I am supposing she will get her ass kicked by the Elite, then realize she needs help, and then take them down a peg. But the next show's synopsis has the Elite back as they disrupt Liberty's protest.

Isn't that the essential formula for the entire show though? I mean I haven't watched since the start of season 3, but every episode was essentially the weak looking SG getting her butt handed to her by even minor villains, then needing a full team effort from her geek squad to help her win. The show should be renamed to Supergirl's Supporting Cast. One of the reasons the show was never very enjoyable for me, you have a main character who is supposed to have all these amazing powers and abilities, and she's getting hammered by B/C list villains.

[mangog3000]

It is about time for Supergirl to be more Super. That was the point of the Superman comic the episode was named after.

I am supposing she will get her ass kicked by the Elite, then realize she needs help, and then take them down a peg. But the next show's synopsis has the Elite back as they disrupt Liberty's protest.

Isn't that the essential formula for the entire show though? I mean I haven't watched since the start of season 3, but every episode was essentially the weak looking SG getting her butt handed to her by even minor villains, then needing a full team effort from her geek squad to help her win. The show should be renamed to Supergirl's Supporting Cast. One of the reasons the show was never very enjoyable for me, you have a main character who is supposed to have all these amazing powers and abilities, and she's getting hammered by B/C list villains.

Yeah, I don't understand why she needs so many supporting characters. I don't mind the peril for our sexy heroine, of course. But it seems like she gets pretty minimal screentime as Supergirl, especially lately. What are they thinking?

[infogeek247]

There are alot, not sure who to get rid of as most, aside from James has something to do with a plot line.

Yes, with the current line of Alien vs. human,there is not a direct threat to SG to get her into battle, she is now a peacekeeper for the two sides, trying to keep both sides alive.

There is Luthor coming for 3 episodes and Red Daughter coming as a threat.

[GeekyPornCritic]

It is about time for Supergirl to be more Super. That was the point of the Superman comic the episode was named after.

I am supposing she will get her ass kicked by the Elite, then realize she needs help, and then take them down a peg. But the next show's synopsis has the Elite back as they disrupt Liberty's protest.

Isn't that the essential formula for the entire show though? I mean I haven't watched since the start of season 3, but every episode was essentially the weak looking SG getting her butt handed to her by even minor villains, then needing a full team effort from her geek squad to help her win. The show should be renamed to Supergirl's Supporting Cast. One of the reasons the show was never very enjoyable for me, you have a main character who is supposed to have all these amazing powers and abilities, and she's getting hammered by B/C list villains.

I think the writers compare Supergirl's powers to her enemy's powers. Some of Supergirl's losses and need for help make sense. For example, Silver Banshee has a huge advantage over Supergirl. Supergirl has super hearing, and Silver Banshee's extreme scream is very painful to Supergirl. Silver Banshee uses Supergirl's power as a weapon against the girl of steel. She needed the Flash's help to beat Banshee and Livewire.

Sure Supergirl has super strength, but strength is useless if you are unable to hit your enemy.

In season one, Supergirl kicks Maxima's booty. Too bad Maxima never returned to my knowledge.

[bushwackerbob]

Although I love Bruce Boxleitner's performance as President Baker, it is hard for me to fathom how Lynda Carter's President Marsdin would ever select the hardcore anti-alien Baker to be her VP. On another note, how realistic was it for Baker to be surprised to encounter Supergirl in the oval office? I know she is a superheroine but where was the Secret Service? That part was incredibly unrealistic.

[infogeek247]

Marsdin allowed Supergirl to come and go as she pleased. That order was probably not changed.

[infogeek247]

Interesting show. A few more webs that were spun.

The “super friends” will only get better as they will train together.

The President has a secret program to deal with the aliens, including the satellite, but Colonel Haley is kept out of the loop. Haley is not going to like that.

Haley kept Alex out of the loop with the ‘super normal” project.

Lena may not be turning all bad as she does not trust the government, and basically told Alex what she is doing. So Lena now has “eyes” on the inside to help keep track of things. Interesting that Alex, without the, my sister is an alien, is on board with giving people powers. I think that Lena will build in “safeguards” to make sure the powers can be kept under control.

Alex, being friends with Jonn and Brainy does not see all Aliens as one way. And now she wants to work with Supergirl from time to time. And came to her defense. She will not be accepting the government line. I also like how she gave advice to Supergirl.

I like how Alex and SG interacted in the apartment and how SG and Kara used the same phrase. Which is what people do.

The ambulance scene was interesting. I think with Alex’s distrust of the line she has been given by the government, she is more clearly remembering how Supergirl and she “kicked ass in the past” as Kara said. I think Alex liked it and sees SG as an ally.

You could see how happy Kara was at the idea of working with Alex.

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What I am having a question about, is the next show. In the synopsis, (so no spoilers) it says Haley gives Alex a job that goes against her values. I keep wondering what it could be. Haley would not act overtly against Aliens. But the Elite are a threat, as is the Children of Liberty. And in the clip Haley did mention “civil war”. Regardless of your stance on the issue, the probability of innocent people getting hurt on both sides is getting high.

And Kara as Kara said “oh no” which could mean anything. I am wondering if she will keep SG under wraps for as long as she can so as not to be seen taking sides.

It does put Alex, Kara, Jonn, Nia, and Brainy in a difficult spot. How do you try to keep everyone safe, when both sides are committed to killing each other?

[infogeek247]

ok, Supergirl.TV just posted pictures from the next episode. Looks like Alex is guarding Lockwood during a speech or something. That is sure to go against her grain, but might not be it.

[shevek]

At least we got to see Supergirl a lot in costume in the episode "What's So Funny about Truth, Justice and the American Way?" (not sure what the deal is with the Elvis Costello reference, but the title falls pretty much in line with the beliefs of hard-progressives, who consistently trumpet how America is a sham democracy and actually a brutal empire. It's kind of a nose thumbed to the old George Reeves Superman TV show where the phrase is used in the intro.)

I still don't understand why Supergirl needs a spacesuit in space. It was long ago established that Superman could live in space, so why not his cousin?
Also not sure what the deal is with Manchester stealing Brainy's ring, which allows him to fly. I don't think it allowed him to breathe in space? (Unless it surrounds him with some sort of protective force field...). Yet there he is, high above the atmosphere before J'onn stops him cold.

The exchange between Supergirl and President Baker, post-satellite destruction, was hypocritical. Supergirl knew the moment that the President asked her why she destroyed the satellite that she didn't really have to do it. After the beam missed the White House, she could have carried the satellite back to Earth and gently laid it on the White House lawn, exposing to all the world what the President was doing. But instead she destroyed $2 billion worth of government equipment. Doesn't that technically make her the biggest anti-government terrorist in the history of the United States? And the President is supposed to just slough that off by the end of the episode? That whole thing doesn't make any sense.

Furthermore, the incident with the satellite continues to pose the problem I've been mentioning all along - there are thousands or maybe even millions of aliens on the Earth in the Supergirl show, yet not once have we ever seen how the aliens got here. That satellite was launched to stop alien spacecraft but other than the Daxamites, we have never seen one single ship ever drop off a single alien refugee. How come The Orville can do CGI
of a couple hundred ships in glorious space explosions but the Supergirl show can't even create one ship?

I do like, however, the political situation that's been set up to emphasize the pathological nature of the two extremes that Supergirl, Alex (and Lena, I guess) find themselves caught between:

- The dialogue makes it very clear that The Elite are basically a superpowered far-left Antifa. Several pronouncements are made (mostly by Manchester) about executing those who are "racist", "fascist" or have "prejudice". No court of law, just elimination Communist-style of any wrongthinkers.

- The alliance between the President and Lockwood which is fairly right-wing and xenophobic. They almost believe the same thing except that the President can't get his hands dirty and lets Lockwood's agents commit the violence. The satellite launch has echoes of the Trump wall, as the writers keep on referring to stuff like that. The progressive creators of the show can't help themselves - they depict every single leader of the Agents of Liberty as White Cis Males even though they have no basis in reality to do so. Are you telling me there's not a single woman, not a single person of colour, not a single LGBT individual who wants aliens off the planet? (Geeky Porn Critic could back me up here a little).

I know that many Supergirl episodes have been rather social-justicey, and this one obviously still has its moments leaning in that direction, but this episode seems to offer at least some good political balance where the true 'good guys' have to navigate their way between extreme political stances and the 'right thing to do' isn't crystal clear. That's much more of a good look.

[GeekyPornCritic]

What's the name of the new guy in the red suit? I don't recall anyone saying his name. I must have missed it.

Supergirl made the right decision to destroy the Satellite. The Elite proved the Satellite did not have good security and anyone can hack it. It would be risky to not destroy it and it is misused as a weapon of mass destruction.

- The alliance between the President and Lockwood which is fairly right-wing and xenophobic. They almost believe the same thing except that the President can't get his hands dirty and lets Lockwood's agents commit the violence. The satellite launch has echoes of the Trump wall, as the writers keep on referring to stuff like that. The progressive creators of the show can't help themselves - they depict every single leader of the Agents of Liberty as White Cis Males even though they have no basis in reality to do so. Are you telling me there's not a single woman, not a single person of colour, not a single LGBT individual who wants aliens off the planet? (Geeky Porn Critic could back me up here a little).

There was a few women and black people at Agent Liberty's rally in the first or second episode. There were also African Americans and women at the protest to release Agent Liberty from jail.

Supergirl fights a female member of Liberty in the episode that she was undercover with Brainy and Nia.

I don't have a problem with the majority of Children of Liberty being white men. America's history of racist groups such as the KKK and modern White Nationalist have white men as their leaders. Women are subjected to submissive roles. They are also against the LGBT community.

It makes sense for LGBT members to stay far way from groups like The Children of Liberty. As I said these types of groups are known to hate LGBT individuals as well.

It is possible for the Children of Liberty to also be a White Nationalist group. So why would African Americans protest for Liberty's release? Remember a small minority of African Americans support Trump despite reports from colleagues that he has called us the N word. Some black people follow the money and hope to gain a position for being an Uncle Tom. A few don't care and are just dumb.

[shevek]

Well, the argument about neutralizing the satellite still doesn't explain why she should destroy it utterly instead of bringing it back to Earth and plopping it on the front lawn of the White House. It would have been simple enough for her to just damage the lasers, and then expose Baker's shenanigans to the world. But I'm not writing the scripts.

Yes I do remember there were women and Blacks* at the rally and protest. But there are none in the Children of Liberty in the episodes where they hunt aliens or when they fight Menagerie. There are none in the "What's So Funny" episode either. There are no non-WhiteCisMales with any "agency" in that organization.

There's no reason why the hatred of aliens by the Agents of Liberty has to also extend to any other group, LGBT or otherwise. The only group they don't like is aliens, and it's never been demonstrated otherwise in any of the episodes. So it's a deliberate attempt on the writers' part, as you've said, to equate them to the KKK or White Nationalists for the simple convenience of being able to make a progressive political statement in every episode, rather than just tell a genuinely exciting story in an imaginary universe.

Candace Owens, Thomas Sowell, Ben Carson, Jerome Adams, etc. Let them do their thing.

* The style guide for leftist alternaweeklies now uses the term 'Black' to refer to persons, capitalized. The millennial woke Black female columnist in my city's own local alternaweekly also uses the term. So I'll go with the most 'progressive' current usage...

[GeekyPornCritic]

Storytelling is not always direct. Sometimes writers leave hints and evidence of the story's pieces. Manchesterblack said it best, The Children of Liberty are racist. Racist people think their race is superior than all other racists. Agent Liberty says "Human First". This may also mean or be a code for "White First". Racist individuals see other groups of people less than human. This goes back for hundreds of years when people called blacks monkeys.

The only problem with my theory is Agent Liberty wanted to use James/The Guardian as a token for his cause. James refused to be a token and would not play Agent LIberty's game. Then, again Agent Liberty may have wanted to use James to show that he is not racist against human races similar to how Trump uses Ben Carson.

[GeekyPornCritic]

Last night's episode is one of my favorite episodes in the series. Supergirl had a lot more screen time. I will not spoil the ending. You must want it for yourself.

[DrDominator9]

I see that Jon Cryer will be finally appearing as Lex Luthor in the next two episodes and he somehow manages to turn the sun red. Should be an interesting short arc.

[infogeek247]

I am wondering if he set things in motion and Lena unknowingly made or help to make the means Lex needs to do it. Or would he have his own R&D team?

[GeekyPornCritic]

My uncle has an interesting and taboo theory about Alex and Supergirl. Alex does not know her sister Kara is Supergirl. He believes Alex will develop romantic feelings for Supergirl without knowing she is desiring a taboo relationship with Kara.

[infogeek247]

Just saw Stand. Very Good. Like the J'onn development, I do not think he will go full "baddie".

Haley is not "confounding". She wants to avoid injury and harm to everyone. But, she also sees Aliens as assets and as she has proven will do anything to bring them under her control. The Morea for instance and what she was willing to do to Supergirl's people. I think her plan is to bring as many aliens under her control, and those that will not comply, will be removed by the Super soldiers. Haley's current "nice" is not a change in attitude but tactics. The stick did not work, so she goes with the carrot. Until she gets what she wants.

Lena's statement "tomorrow may be too late". I think she has sources that informed her that Lex has been doing "something"on the outside, while he is inside. He may also have reached out to her. And she is nervous. As the clip, she says "I know what he is capable of", as it turns out, she has no blessed clue as to how far she will go.

It will be interesting to see how the narrative changes when the catastrophe created is not Alien caused but homegrown. And I would think it will be alien tech that stops it.

I think the other nations may get involved. So far it has been an "American" problem. Now, with Lex, we have a global attack. The "red sun" will cause damage world wide, if even for a short time.

[GeekyPornCritic]

I think Lex has been in contact with the Russians and their Red Supergirl project. They were last seen calling "him" for assistance after Red Supergirl was nearly dead. I think Red Supergirl may be immune to this Red Sun and will cause troubles for The Super Friends of Justice!

I have a few problems with this season. Where is Maxwell Lord? He also had concerns about aliens on Earth. He did not want them to become Gods. He wanted systems and weapons to keep the strongest aliens like Supergirl in check if they were out of control. Of course he also wanted to play God by creating his personal Supergirl to obey him. The Girl of Steel is your friend, but not every alien has good intentions. He also did not fully trust her until the finale.

I am still pissed off at how James has been written. Key government officials do not want aliens on the planet and in key positions. However, they are okay with Supergirl being a DEO employee for a while. They're okay with an alien heroine but not a human hero in James. The government refused to allow The Guardian to be a superhero. Yet, the government is now okay with Agent Liberty being a "hero" in the people's eyes. James is the only hero who The Super Friends and the government never supported. He has always supported everyone, but no one supports him.

[infogeek247]

Just for the destructive impact, I do not see the "Red Sun" lasting too long.

Red Daughter. She may be immune, not sure. But I don't see Lex helping another Supergir, unless he has full control.

[GeekyPornCritic]

Tonight's episode lacked action, but it made up for it in story. Lex is a mastermind. I knew the officer watching him was suspicious. Prison guards may not be the nicest guys, but they can't legally abuse a prisoner especially one with cancer. Lex plays Lena like a fool, and we learn a bit more about her story. The betrayal at the end is perfect!

Manchester is falsely accused of last week's shooting. His actions are not linked to James. Our heroes just assumed his actions are related to our hurt friend!

I didn't like Brainy rejecting Nia in this episode. There should have been an episode focus on them to lead up to a rejection. It could have given us more story on why Brainy rejects her. This moment was not good timing and writing.

I also find it odd for Alex to say James is Kara's best friend. I'm still mad over their backup. "I don't have time for you but I have time for this alien to train him to be a hero. You can't be a hero".

The ending is amazing. Lex is a boss.

[Visitor]

Lex returns as the manipulative genius from the comics. Setting up everything to get Lena to do what he wants. My only problem was I thought he would figure out a way to get the serum with super powers too so he could challenge Superman in a later episode. This was the best part of the series with a true villain in Lex.

This show doesn't seem to worry about legalities. There are lots of other times where results matter more than how they were achieved.

After the previous week's fight between J'onn and Manchester, I'm wondering whether J'onn got tricked again to make him go violent.

Next week is where we finally see the Red Supergirl go after Supergirl as we finally get a real fight, I hope.

[Bert]

Geeky, I completely agree! This was the strongest episode of the season for me, even though there is barely any action. The writing was actually pretty good, except for the awkward handling of Brainy/Dreamer. And, from Entertainment Weekly, comes this tantalizing tidbit:

Spoiler

“There’s a super-awesome fight between Lex Luthor and Supergirl that opens the next episode,” Rovner told reporters on Friday. “What’s cool about the fight is that it takes us to the Daily Planet, so we get to see Lex and Supergirl at the Daily Planet messing stuff up.”

“It’s too short, as far as I’m concerned. I could punch her forever,” joked Cryer. “But I have to say, again, the 14-year-old boy in me comes out because we did one of the shots where Supergirl lands on the roof and she’s got the Beyoncé fan blowing her hair and I got chills because it’s just so beautifully done.”

It's been an incredibly disappointing season, but it will be partially redeemed if we get an actual knock down drag out battle between Lex Luthor and Supergirl. I'm looking forward to next Sunday's Supergirl, and I haven't been able to say that for months.

[infogeek247]

I don't think the fight will last too long, as Lex still is not safe. But Kara knows he is prepared for her. But has to try to take him down. And the fact he has never faced her before could make for an interesting fight.

Lena will need to get together with Alex and SG if they are going to fight Lex.

Red. From how they have it set up, and the synopsis of Ep 17, it seems the first battle with RD and SG will be then. I see them as having a few. The first one testing each other out. I see Kara as getting the brunt of the damage as she will try not to kill Rd. As she is "part" of her. Eventually SG will win.

With his hatred of Aliens, I see Lex as eventually turning on RD when she no longer is useful to him.

[DrDominator9]

This was one of the best episodes of the season even though there was no direct peril for Supergirl.

By the end of Two and a Half Men I was disgusted with the character Cryer played... so I was thrilled to see Jon turn it around here and deliver what I felt was one of the best live action Lex Luthors ever!

The writers woke up and put together a terrific script for a change. Only flaw was the Brainy stuff but the more I think about him the more I'm convinced he's got some sort of virus/malfunction. He's far too emotional of late. Something is going on there.

Looking forward to next week for sure!!

[infogeek247]

Brainy and "virus" = Maybe Eve did something..on Lex's Order.

[GeekyPornCritic]

My only problem was I thought he would figure out a way to get the serum with super powers too so he could challenge Superman in a later episode.

I think one of two things are going on. One, he had to remove the super powers because the human body is not designed for superpowers. However, there are cases of people gaining superpowers through contact with an alien.

Two, Lex has superpowers but he is not revealing them at this time. If two is the case, then please ignore the plot hole alert.

PLOT HOLE ALERT!

I am surprised Lena did not use Supergirl's DNA to create a serum. Metahumans exist and have been in the series from the beginning. There was a lot of information on how to create a serum and metahuman.

Liverwire gained superpowers when she was hit by lightning when Supergirl was holding her hand. The DEO and Win believed Livewire gained her powers from Supergirl's DNA mixing with the lightning. Lena should have used an alien's DNA such as Supergirl's DNA to create a serum.

Menagerie is misclassified as an alien. She is also a metahuman, She merged with an alien and the alien's DNA has given her the power to continue to create powerful snakes.

Lena is using Black Kryptonite while she should have been using alien DNA. I am surprised she never considered alien DNA. I am sure Lex Luthor may be considering it.

[shevek]

I no longer discuss politics on this board. I will just say that I was not so much a fan of the Stand episode. They were trying to do another 'art imitates life' situation, but in the real world, such an incident would never have happened because logistically, the police would have been prepared to keep the two opposing demonstrations apart with fences and barriers, just like they've done at numerous real-world protests such as the G20.

Supergirl mentions that the aliens are fleeing 'war and violence'. Just like in the past couple seasons, we have seen zero evidence of that. Not even a single war story told by an alien, or anything. The premise continues to be flimsy for that reason, because no actual threat (other than the Children of Liberty) to aliens is ever mentioned. If only a bunch of Midwestern meatheads want to hurt aliens, that is not really major stakes. No Elite is really needed - Supergirl could just go around scooping them up and putting bigots in a pen until they promise to behave.

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However, O Brother was one of the best episodes Supergirl has ever produced, and it rises to the level of some of the bangers early in Season 1,
as well as hearkening back to the spirit of 'Smallville'.

This is exactly how superhero television should be created: major stakes! dastardly villains! life-threatening evil schemes! double crossing! the first proper use of the phrase 'Miss Teschmacher!' since the early 80s. and (as far as I can tell) the CW network's first-ever use of chloroform! (I'm surprised nobody mentioned this). I highly recommend that everyone watch O Brother to 'recharge' their interest in this TV series - it's worth it, and Jon Cryer is brilliant.

The subplot about J'onn struggling with his violent demons is a non-starter. Let me get this straight: so he comes from a tooth-and-nail culture where almost everyone is violent (except for his father's handful of peace cultists - btw, did you notice the word for father is something like 'fathurrr' in Martian? Come on, xenolinguists, do better!) and where the god they worship (H'ronmir, a Yahweh analogue if I ever heard one..Supergirl even says the Martians have a 'Bible') is vengeful and inflicts many 'punishments' (unfortunately, we never get to find out what those are)..and yet he wants to be the one Martian ahimsa hippie to break the cycle? Highly doubtful. Plus, the pep talk that Kara gives him, that just by 'standing with' his friends, he makes them stronger, doesn't make any sense. Logically, *fighting* alongside his friends is what would make them the strongest, right?

Also, did anyone catch the big major boo-boo at the beginning of the Lex Luthor sequence? He credits a quote to Epicurus, but then says that the quote is '230 years old'. This is a gaffe that eluded not just Jon Cryer himself (I would've thought he might be educated enough to know) but all of the writers and editors as well. What they really meant to say was '230 decades', because Epicurus lived 2300 years ago, not 230.

Jimmy Olsen never had a sister in the comics (and of course, neither did Kara). 'Kelly' is another invention purely for the series, because they didn't have any next of kin for the hospital. However there is nothing to complain about, as actress Azie Tesfai is a stunning Eritrean/Ethiopian beauty. It would be great to see her get superpowers just to establish DC's first-ever East African superheroine....but I doubt that's going to happen, she'll probably just get on the next plane once James is up and running.

I think Lex already has superpowers and he will use them against Supergirl soon if he doesn't already use them next week. Looking forward to everything launching into the stratosphere. As long as Lex Luthor is around to cause trouble, the series is going to continue to be mightily entertaining at the level that O Brother was.

[GeekyPornCritic]

Supergirl mentions that the aliens are fleeing 'war and violence'. Just like in the past couple seasons, we have seen zero evidence of that. Not even a single war story told by an alien, or anything. The premise continues to be flimsy for that reason, because no actual threat (other than the Children of Liberty) to aliens is ever mentioned. If only a bunch of Midwestern meatheads want to hurt aliens, that is not really major stakes. No Elite is really needed - Supergirl could just go around scooping them up and putting bigots in a pen until they promise to behave.

J'onn's origins include war and violence. He fled his home world filled with White Martians. Supergirl and Superman are on Earth due to extreme circumstances of a planet exploding.

[Night_Lantern]

Jon Cryer was an excellent Lex. The twist ending was brilliant. As was

Spoiler

Lena’s

chloroforming- was very hot watching her go limp! Very excited for next week!

[Bert]

J'onn's origins include war and violence. He fled his home world filled with White Martians. Supergirl and Superman are on Earth due to extreme circumstances of a planet exploding.

Don't complain. He isn't doing politics anymore and this post is only eight paragraphs long.

[shevek]

J'onn's origins include war and violence. He fled his home world filled with White Martians. Supergirl and Superman are on Earth due to extreme circumstances of a planet exploding.

Sure, Geeky, but those are the superheroes who are supposed to have interesting, tumultuous origins. Otherwise there'd be nothing to inspire them to heroism.

In contrast, we have no idea why these thousands (or millions?) of aliens are on Earth except for one quote from Kara about "war and violence".
That's what I meant.

[Visitor]

Winn's alien ex-girlfriend left home because of environmental disaster.

[infogeek247]

I think Lex already has superpowers and he will use them against Supergirl soon if he doesn't already use them next week.

SG will fight Luther at the start of the episode, and Kara will get the worst of it. She does not know that Lex had Otis and Eve on the outside. My guess is he anticipated SG coming and has kryptonite weapons. Possibly both Lex and Otis have weapons.

Alex might appear to even the odds. Plus, he has Lena locked in the Mansion. He could say "Arrest me or save Lena."

But the next fight will be different.

[shevek]

Winn's alien ex-girlfriend left home because of environmental disaster.

Yes..thank you..I checked and you're right. In Season 2, the details are indeed told about what happened to Lyra's home planet Starhaven: an idyllic utopia struck by an ecological plague that then caused a 10-year war, where all inhabitants were eventually forced to flee. I suppose, by extrapolation, that similar self-contained disasters could have happened on all of the "24" planets mentioned as contributing to the alien refugee situation. And that no "Big Bad" (similar to a Skrull or Kree Empire) is out there in the universe contributing to the flood of refugees per se. So let's assume that's the case since nothing else has really been said.

So far, for those who haven't kept score, here's our complete Supergirl alien list:
Alcor - mental powers. Nothing else said about home planet. ****
Almerac - Maxima. Not known if any of them are on Earth.
Colu - organic computers. Brainiac and Indigo. Not known if any more of them are on Earth.
Czarnia - Unknown.
Daxam - Mon-El, his mother and father, and the invading armada. Not known if any of them remain on Earth but they were not refugees.
Dominators - Unsuccessful invasion of Earth.
Durla - shapeshifting. President Marsdin. Nothing said about home planet or why they're here. ****
Martians (Green) - J'onn. No others on Earth as far as we know.
Hellgram - Insectoid. One unnamed Hellgrammite shown. No information as to why they're on Earth. ****
Infernia - Scorcher. She's a terrorist who is pro-alien amnesty. But no information as to why they're on Earth. ****
Khund - Fort Rozz bankrobber. They're supposed to be a super violent and brutal race. They'd be a great candidate for an alien Big Bad. No other info.
Klaramar - mentioned by Brainy. not known if they're on Earth.
Kryptonians - Superman, Supergirl. Almost none on Earth as far as it is shown.
Maaldor - Jo Gunraf. Brutal slavers who worked with Roulette to sell humans as slaves. Could be another good Big Bad. Not known if any are on Earth.
Morai - the three Morae children from Project Morae including "Mo" from the Elite. Not known if any more are on Earth.
Naltor - Precognition powers. Nia and her family. Somehow can interbreed (???) with humans. It is assumed there are more of them on Earth. ****
Phoria - Telekinesis. Erika, Marcus, and Marcus' dad. No information as to why they're on Earth. ****
Roltikkon - Telepathy. Darla, who dated Maggie. No information as to why they're on Earth. ****
Saturn - Psychic / strength. Jemm. No information as to why they're on Earth or how a race of humanoids could evolve on a gas giant.
Starhaven - Lyra. This is the only planet for which we have a history as to why their population are refugees on Earth. ****
Thanagar - aggressive, totalitarian. Not known if any are on Earth, but no indication they have any refugees.
Titan - Imra Ardeen. moon of Saturn. no indication of any on Earth.
Trombusa - hi-tech. Master Jailer. No indication if there are more on Earth.
Valeron - super strength. Vartox. No indication that there are more on Earth.
Martians (White) - M'gann and her resistance friends. No indication that there are any on Earth, though if they were refugees from White Martian rule
on Mars, they would carefully conceal themselves and not reveal their true monstrous forms anyway.

So I guess there's no point in a Big Bad coming from the stars again, since there's already been two invasions on the show.
There's plenty of room, however, for refugee stories. As asterisked above, only eight planets of possible refugee origin have been mentioned, so there's room for about 16 more, and any of them could yield such a story.

At this point I'm glad we're not getting any details anyway, because I really want the show to move away from the whole Liberty vs Elite over aliens thing to the full-on Luthor-related battles. Much more interesting, and much more classic DC-style storytelling.

Hope that list was helpful!

[GeekyPornCritic]

You could include the Morae children as they are fleeing the US Government from violence and execution. The Government trained them to be soldiers, but want to kill them after the public's strong support for Agent Liberty. Mo should be considered innocent. He did nothing wrong and is avoiding an inhumane execution.

[infogeek247]

There are a lot of them. SG was right.

[Maskripper]

I guess you guys wanna see Supergirl dancing too ;-)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BvPTxwOnSwZ ... hare_sheet

[DrDominator9]

I guess you guys wanna see Supergirl dancing too ;-)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BvPTxwOnSwZ ... hare_sheet

That was cuter than anything!! Thanks

[infogeek247]

For how serious the show can get they do seem to ave alot of fun.

[brdiy]

From what I can tell, Jon Cryer seems to make a more convincing Lex Luthor than what we got at BvS. This might be worth watching.

[shevek]

You could include the Morae children as they are fleeing the US Government from violence and execution. The Government trained them to be soldiers, but want to kill them after the public's strong support for Agent Liberty. Mo should be considered innocent. He did nothing wrong and is avoiding an inhumane execution.

I did include the Morae children, check the list. But just like most of the aliens, it's totally unclear how the Morae ever got to Earth in the first place.
The government just "stumbled" on them in the 1950s according to the TV show. Also, "Mo" of The Elite is a "she", I think they refer to her as female
as she's led away into DEO custody, and it even looks like she has distinctly female curves (at least, for a CGI'd character).

Now all of the Elite are either in DEO custody or otherwise indisposed, so we can get that storyline out of the way in favor of the real meat of the Kryptonian saga - the Luthors vs the Els, a battle of Herculean proportions.

[infogeek247]

Well, Lex and Lillian.... Lena is totally on Kara and Alex side. Lex made her an enemy.