How divided IS this preference?

[DefeatedHeroines]

I added a poll to this… since I'm fairly new to what others like, I want to see, by poll numbers, what percentage is FOR and AGAINST this… I don't want to start a war on this… I ONLY want to see the poll answers

[ranger87]

As long as the hose are flesh colored, I don't particularly care. It's helpful if the girl has scars, bruises, birthmarks, etc.

[Blx]

I really, really, don't care and this discussion is so tiresome.

[DefeatedHeroines]

I really, really, don't care and this discussion is so tiresome.

Precisely why I don't want a thread about it… just the poll lol

[rayman]

Naturally my vote went to "depends on character/actress" but generally I prefer bare legs

[Mamooche24]

Pantyhose all day everyday. I actually dont buy videos unless the heroine is in them. I see it as an essential staple of the genre. And this isnt coming from an outdated older guy whose out of touch, im 25.

[mrestfla]

Pantyhose all day everyday. I actually dont buy videos unless the heroine is in them. I see it as an essential staple of the genre. And this isnt coming from an outdated older guy whose out of touch, im 25.

you don't know what your missing....kiddo! from an old guy whose IN touch!

[Richpartist]

Its like leggings(yoga pants) something really nice to "peel off" her

[Incubus]

In the name of fairness and in an attempt to make everyone happy please offer both.

Do something "new". Instead of having certain heroines bare legged or in pantyhose, have two versions of each heroine, the only difference being the pantyhose. Your Wonder Woman styled character, in pantyhose in 50% of the movies and bare legged in 50% of the movies. Your Supergirl styled character, in pantyhose in 50% of the movies and bare legged in 50% of the movies, etc....

That way everyone eventually gets what they want. Supergirl in pantyhose and bare legged. Wonder Woman bare legged and in pantyhose.

[Mr. X]

You should really do what you want to do.

[DefeatedHeroines]

You should really do what you want to do.

Oh I will lol but since there's always talk about who likes it and who doesn't, I wanted to see some real numbers… and I'm getting them… it seems like there really is a 50/50 split on it which is what I wanted to know

[Incubus]

You should really do what you want to do.

He is, he's taking a poll.

[Mr. X]

Hmm not exactly what I was thinking.

[Incubus]

So, you're suggesting he should just create costumes he likes and tell the customers take it or leave it.

As you know he's not making a custom movie for himself, he's starting a business. It's important to learn what your customers want and do your best to provide it. Knowing your clientele is why some businesses fail and some succeed. I think he's interested in the latter.

[Mr. X]

Well my experience is the people who seem to thrive are the ones who do what they like and then adopt a following. I don't think there is some special mix that's going to please everyone. Sure get as many customers as possible but simply catering to a vocal minority isn't really going to pan out well. As the saying goes. Do what you like, the rest will follow. This sounds like a grocery list which I don't see working out well.

[mrestfla]

vocal minority

[Incubus]

Well my experience is the people who seem to thrive are the ones who do what they like and then adopt a following. I don't think there is some special mix that's going to please everyone. Sure get as many customers as possible but simply catering to a vocal minority isn't really going to pan out well. As the saying goes. Do what you like, the rest will follow. This sounds like a grocery list which I don't see working out well.

Problem is, many who do exclusively what they like never adopt a following. They fall by the wayside.

Might not be able to please everyone, but a special mix might please most. Most is the goal.

The exact reason for the poll is to not simply cater to a vocal minority. It's to discover the desires of the majority.

[Mr. X]

You'd be surprised how NOT the majority this board is.

[korda]

Pantyhoses, tickles, deboots, go-go girl's boots, underwater fights, the overdose of low blows...More and more the producers are setting aside the Superheroine in Peril's elements. You don't need waste the entire movie with a fetish party and alienate the entire genre. Stick with the basic: the mauled superheroine, the supervillain and the standard fights and FX. Just like the old Dano's SHC classics, Giga & Zen movies and some of the old and new Rye's movies. That's the sucess formula.

[korda]

You'd be surprised how NOT the majority this board is.

This is a forum owned by a producer of covered legs movies. It's no surprise that the majority here is averse of bare legs.

[Gomur]

I side with Mr. X on this one. You create videos that fit your vision and allow the brand to take shape. I can say "Heroine Legends", "Bluestone", and "Next Global Crisis" and people automatically form expectations for each production. Because they've established their identities.

As big an "issue" as pantyhose versus bare legs may be, I'm more interested in the overall productions. Is the story the right length or puffed up with filler? Does the acting and dialogue satisfy? How realistic is the action? How tight is the editing?

It's important to listen to fans, but a poll for/against pantyhose isn't really going to determine success. Especially if you have a silent majority.

[drh1966]

Well my experience is the people who seem to thrive are the ones who do what they like and then adopt a following.

Totally agree with this. There's something better about a production made by someone with the actual fetish, whatever that fetish may be. For example, I'd rather watch a chloro scene filmed by a chloro enthusiast who "gets it" rather than by someone who's just using it as a means to an end (and to cram another fetish element into a vid). There's a difference and it shows.

[DefeatedHeroines]

Hey everyone… just to clarify, this poll isn't to figure out the fetishes, it's to see how divided the pantyhose thing is so when I put these costumes together, I know whether or not it will influence how you guys think the girl looks… nothing more… I have already outlined and discussed the 1st episode with the actress and will be writing the script tomorrow. I also already made the 1st costume (or is being made now) which is bare legs by personal choice…

I am going to do things how I want them to be done, but there are always going to be times where I reach out to everyone to see what others think, like, etc because sometimes, it's refreshing to hear others' input and it also makes me rethink some things and do them better!

My site isn't a porn site or a fetish-only site. It's all about SuperHeroine Peril and I'm a big fan of it. I'm a big fan of naked girls orgasming too… so you will get a lot of different things from my series… but just remember that I am making Adult Content films that have a real story based in the SuperHeroine realm… characters I will create and a story I have already created…

The 1st episode will feature Tiffany Tyler as Valor, a combination of the Captain America and Wolverine elements (not the claws) into one female Heroine. The biggest villain is simply called "The Shadow" and SHE has unknown ties to The Allegiance, a government organization formed to sway the war and mold it's outcome by force. Want to know more? You'll just have to watch!!!

The point is… yes, I will make this how I want to make it, but I also want to know where my audience is and what they think, like, etc… it can't hurt to listen, right?!

[rayman]

I totally agree wit Mr.X and korda.

Peronally I jabe a superheroine/super woman fetish NOT a pantyhose fetish although even in real life I am a die hard legs man and some legs are improved with the correct hose.

[Heroine Addict]

You'd be surprised how NOT the majority this board is.

But how did you reach that conclusion? I'm genuinely interested in how producers conduct their market research.

This forum appears to be by far the biggest available sample of superheroine peril fans with 19076 registered members. There may be a slight skew in favor of people who discovered this place via the HypOnlineMedia sites. However, it appears prominently in Google searches for virtually any aspect of the superheroine peril genre, so there's likely to be a lot of "passing trade" too.

While self-sampled polls are always going to be flawed, I would be very interested to see a more accurate measure of majority opinion within a niche fetish.

[Mr. X]

First off if this or any other board were the majority of the community then nearly every vendor would be out of business since this board is hardly 100s of people all being vocal. Secondly by my experience there is always a tiny, very vocal minority who simply do not represent the huge silent majority. This is true in almost all venues not just this board. So there maybe some here who like hose or bare legs but that's not accurate of the community. Sales are usually the more accurate measure.

[xxxwarriorxxx]

I would never not buy a film because of pantyhose/no pantyhose. The model really is what does it for me. I am more into the chloro and OTS scenes-- give me a good scene with a nice passout or OTS carry and I will purchase it. It really is amazing how divided people are on this topic though.

[Heroine Addict]

First off if this or any other board were the majority of the community then nearly every vendor would be out of business since this board is hardly 100s of people all being vocal. Secondly by my experience there is always a tiny, very vocal minority who simply do not represent the huge silent majority. This is true in almost all venues not just this board. So there maybe some here who like hose or bare legs but that's not accurate of the community. Sales are usually the more accurate measure.

That's true, but is there any consistent and reliable data from a studio which produces bare legs and pantyhose videos in equal measure to suggest that putting models in pantyhose affects sales figures one way or the other?

[Mr. X]

First off if this or any other board were the majority of the community then nearly every vendor would be out of business since this board is hardly 100s of people all being vocal. Secondly by my experience there is always a tiny, very vocal minority who simply do not represent the huge silent majority. This is true in almost all venues not just this board. So there maybe some here who like hose or bare legs but that's not accurate of the community. Sales are usually the more accurate measure.

That's true, but is there any consistent and reliable data from a studio which produces bare legs and pantyhose videos in equal measure to suggest that putting models in pantyhose affects sales figures one way or the other?

Don't know. Perhaps a vendor could make the same movie twice ie with or without hose and see which sells more, that's if they have the cash. I think there are so many fetishes that its hard to deal with them all. That's why I say just do what you like then squeeze some other fetishes in when you can. I don't think there is a magic bullet that if you have pantyhose you'll instantly sell 10x more videos.

[DefeatedHeroines]

I can tell you Logan has girls in pantyhose and girls not in pantyhose… and he has said to me that the topic is actually "moot" because sales had nothing to do with that. The only reason I put the poll up is purely out of curiosity to see the numbers for myself…

[viking]

The numbers you need to pay attention to are sales figures. Which of your films sell well and which do not. Draw your conclusions from that. People voting with their dollars are much more reliable sources of information than those who respond to polls or who post on forums.

[d00lin]

Women who are super fit and toned don't really "need" pantyhose (Capri Cavanni comes to mind), however I don't think pantyhose ever hurt. That being said, please, no heroines with their entire bodies covered with tattoos. At any rate, thanks for asking for our feedback!