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How sad is it that the costume designer Axel Braun chose in Los Angeles to make the new WW costume did 10X better at getting the WW look more than the one they used for the 2010 David E. Kelley pilot? I love those muted colors.

This looks AMAZING and should have some great B/G scenes in it as well. Axel does quality work when it comes to the parodies. Nobody does it better. I own several of his film parodies and his attention to detail is perfect.

Cool. This will give the Justice League 2015 movie something to shoot for!

Agreed. I'm not really big on the Nolan films, they're very uneven. Giving him control was just DC's way of throwing a huge wad of money at the problem, hoping it would go away.

Shakeshift wrote:How sad is it that the costume designer Axel Braun chose in Los Angeles to make the new WW costume did 10X better at getting the WW look more than the one they used for the 2010 David E. Kelley pilot? I love those muted colors.

I've seen that costume available on etsy

http://www.etsy.com/listing/122551518/g ... ome_active

it's a nice looking costume but I happen to be one of the few who liked the costume from the pilot ... and I liked the pants version too. This version, with the muted colors, represents the "Wonder Warrior" from the comics, whom has strong ties to her Amazonian heritage, and was introduced after Crisis. I think the David E. Kelly costume was a really good update to the Lynda Carter version, which is the version I know and love. Sure, the shiny pants were cheesy; but along with invisble planes and bullet blocking bracelets, the cheesy "Wonder Woman" is the one that everyone knows best

The preview pics don't show those shorts. They show some baggie shorts. In fact the suit on the mannequin doesn't appear to match the suit in the art pics. maybe it needs lacing up but still it doesn't seem the same.

Plus I'm pretty tired of the avoiding the patriotic theme. I personally like the brighter colors and the star spangled butt.

Gus Goreman, Jr. wrote:

Shakeshift wrote:How sad is it that the costume designer Axel Braun chose in Los Angeles to make the new WW costume did 10X better at getting the WW look more than the one they used for the 2010 David E. Kelley pilot? I love those muted colors.

I've seen that costume available on etsy

http://www.etsy.com/listing/122551518/g ... ome_active

it's a nice looking costume but I happen to be one of the few who liked the costume from the pilot ... and I liked the pants version too. This version, with the muted colors, represents the "Wonder Warrior" from the comics, whom has strong ties to her Amazonian heritage, and was introduced after Crisis. I think the David E. Kelly costume was a really good update to the Lynda Carter version, which is the version I know and love. Sure, the shiny pants were cheesy; but along with invisble planes and bullet blocking bracelets, the cheesy "Wonder Woman" is the one that everyone knows best

I'm right there with ya. I too liked the Palicki WW costume, both versions. And I prefer gold to the silver on the costume, but Shakeshift's pic is cool with the lighting and all. Looks like it's been through post (photoshop), wish Palicki's WW show had been (the motion graphics equivalent).

Even though it didn't go to series, I really wish they'd have released the finished WW 2011 pilot. (If they did, I don't have it...anyone?) The version I have is badly compressed divx, near final edit (I'm guessing), but pre-final post. No color grading (needs it), not all vfx done (some wirework not removed, lasso vfx not done, and a bunch of stuff I'm sure they probably planned on but I don't know what), temp music (not sure on this, but sounds like it), definitely not the final sound mix.

Thing is we haven't really seen the final look of the costume, The colorist could make the costume look significantly better than the samples we've (or I've) seen: make the fake metal look real metal for one thing. Lots can be done.

Man, I really want to see that fight scene in color enhanced HD and finished vfx! Especially the jumping splits over the camera shot!

Isn't the idea of a parody that the audience is already familiar with the source material? A parody of the Lynda Carter series, the Gold/Silver Age comics version or even the cartoon versions of Wonder Woman would make more sense as these reached many millions of people over the years. The darker Wonder Woman in the modern comics, however, struggles to sell even 50,000 issues per month. There's little point in parodying that version of WW at the moment.

Heroine Addict wrote:Isn't the idea of a parody that the audience is already familiar with the source material? A parody of the Lynda Carter series, the Gold/Silver Age comics version or even the cartoon versions of Wonder Woman would make more sense as these reached many millions of people over the years. The darker Wonder Woman in the modern comics, however, struggles to sell even 50,000 issues per month. There's little point in parodying that version of WW at the moment.

Oh I don't know. If I could get 50,000 sales for 1 video I'd be pretty happy!

looking forward to this one! just my opinion, but I think the Lynda Carter series-type costumes have been way overdone in parodies/porn, and it's nice to see something a little muted and subdued like this one. The cut looks good and not sure who the actress is, but she has the look. Unless someone can modify the season 2/3 costume to show a little more butt, this one will do for me.

just read on Axel Braun's facebook page and on the internet, the actress playing WW is Kimberly Kane, which is a pretty good choice, I think. This movie is also supposed to be 'darker' than other parodies. Should be a good one!

Kimberly Kane was also great as Agent Scully in "The XXX-Files." The other guy though looked nothing like Mulder.

the more I look at that picture, the more I think: how could porn get something so potentially right, while Hollywood gets it so wrong!? I'm really liking the muted colors on that costume; they seem more grounded and realistic (as far as porn goes) and does compliment the 'darker' tone the movie is supposed to have. More importantly, it's going to be XXX so (hopefully) it's not going to be another lez fest disguised as a 'XXX parody'.

Costume looks great, but there will always be a big argument over WW's outfit, lol.

If you like the version from the original show I'd strongly suggest checking out Rachel Steele's C4S site.

I would love to see his take on Electra Woman and Dyna Girl!

I concur, Shakeshift, this is much better (even though it's based on the modern comics). The problem with the 2011 outfit was it looked cheap and tacky. Some have said Wonder Woman looked like a stripper - and I can't disagree. This costume also shows they don't need to turn Wonder Woman into Xena...

I didn't mind Christina Carter's take from last year, but it was definitely not "XXX" in the way that Vivid (or any other porn company) would have handled such a property. If you're going to put the title XXX on something, I feel it should have B/G porn, especially for a $90 price tag. To me, that's just common sense. I'm glad though it was sliced up into 6 portions, that way I could get the fetish parts I wanted and skip over the rest.

What I like about Alex's original XXX parodies is that he puts a fantastic level of research into his projects and he has a producer's eye for small details. The sets and lighting for STAR WARS, THE BRADY BUNCH, WKRP IN CINCINNATI, and THE XXX-FILES were all phenomenal, and the makeup and wardrobe people do an amazing job at getting the nuances right. Alex really has an eye for parody porn, as evidenced by the fact that Vivid has given him hundreds of assignments over the years. I've emailed him a few times (nothing major) but he's always been very nice to deal with.

Shakeshift wrote:I didn't mind Christina Carter's take from last year, but it was definitely not "XXX" in the way that Vivid (or any other porn company) would have handled such a property. If you're going to put the title XXX on something, I feel it should have B/G porn, especially for a $90 price tag. To me, that's just common sense. I'm glad though it was sliced up into 6 portions, that way I could get the fetish parts I wanted and skip over the rest.

What I like about Alex's original XXX parodies is that he puts a fantastic level of research into his projects and he has a producer's eye for small details. The sets and lighting for STAR WARS, THE BRADY BUNCH, WKRP IN CINCINNATI, and THE XXX-FILES were all phenomenal, and the makeup and wardrobe people do an amazing job at getting the nuances right. Alex really has an eye for parody porn, as evidenced by the fact that Vivid has given him hundreds of assignments over the years. I've emailed him a few times (nothing major) but he's always been very nice to deal with.

It never ceases to amaze me that people hold it against CC Productions of Wonder Woman for not being having B/G content. Christina Carter has never done B/G a day in her life. The movie was never advertised as B/G. Who says "XXX" has to have B/G anyway?

I agree that Axel Braun has done outstanding work in the past. I'll be interested to see how he does with a WW Parody. I have to confess the costume starts on the wrong foot for me. I don't think you mess with an icon unless the main stream media already has done so successfully as it did with Batman. Even so, Axel Braun's "Batman XXX" stayed very true to the Iconic 60's series costumes.

I don't get Hollywood's and pornwood's repeated failures to respect the Lynda Carter costume icon if only for profit's sake. As soon as, anyone starts to deviate from that costume you start losing customers. Why does everyone think they change WW for the better? It's hard enough just getting WW right.

My thanks to everyone especially those who disagree with me for contributing to this topic. Oh and yes I think the choice to play WW looks great. Can she act? Can she fight?

The actress and that costume looks awesome. Like avenger I have also heard that it's supposed to be darker than his past productions, so maybe it'll be worth checking out!

athenaartemis wrote:
Christina Carter has never done B/G a day in her life.

That's not true.

athenaartemis wrote: Who says "XXX" has to have B/G anyway?

I usually thought that XXX meant HC material. It's definitely not a rule anywhere, though.

athenaartemis wrote:As soon as, anyone starts to deviate from that costume you start losing customers.

Nope. In 2013 I'm all for seeing modern versions of these classic costumes. Sometimes they get it wrong (like in the new 52) - but in this case I think it looks pretty great. Whether it will appeal to this genre's audience is another question.

ledonatello wrote:

athenaartemis wrote:
Christina Carter has never done B/G a day in her life.

That's not true.

To clarify, by B/G, I mean HC kissing, anal or vaginal penetration. Basically, a male breaking the planes of one of the three female orifices with one of his own sexual body parts. Do you know of any such productions she has done? I am not including Christina Carter's work with men in strictly bondage productions, non-penetration BG or penetrations by sex toys. Thanks for sharing.

athenaartemis wrote: It never ceases to amaze me that people hold it against CC Productions of Wonder Woman for not being having B/G content. Christina Carter has never done B/G a day in her life. The movie was never advertised as B/G. Who says "XXX" has to have B/G anyway?

Sorry my friend, but she has. Just not under the name "Christina Carter". And XXX normally implies b/g hardcore in the minds of most. While copping the title "XXX: A Porn Parody" was probably to help market and sell the video, it wasn't the best choice for a movie featuring all g/g.

I have to confess the costume starts on the wrong foot for me. I don't think you mess with an icon unless the main stream media already has done so successfully as it did with Batman. I don't get Hollywood's and pornwood's repeated failures to respect the Lynda Carter costume icon if only for profit's sake.

Some fan's inability to let Lynda Carter's portrayal go is one of the reasons the character continues to stumble in attempts to bring her back to the screen. That portrayal suited the times and fueled many male fetishes (including mine), but it's time to stop living in the past and move forward.

athenaartemis wrote:

ledonatello wrote:

athenaartemis wrote:
Christina Carter has never done B/G a day in her life.

That's not true.

To clarify, by B/G, I mean HC kissing, anal or vaginal penetration. Basically, a male breaking the planes of one of the three female orifices with one of his own sexual body parts. Do you know of any such productions she has done? I am not including Christina Carter's work with men in strictly bondage productions, non-penetration BG or penetrations by sex toys. Thanks for sharing.

Yes, I realize what you meant. It's not true if you count her bondage work. I digress though.

drh1966 wrote:

athenaartemis wrote: It never ceases to amaze me that people hold it against CC Productions of Wonder Woman for not being having B/G content. Christina Carter has never done B/G a day in her life. The movie was never advertised as B/G. Who says "XXX" has to have B/G anyway?

Sorry my friend, but she has. Just not under the name "Christina Carter". And XXX normally implies b/g hardcore in the minds of most. While copping the title "XXX: A Porn Parody" was probably to help market and sell the video, it wasn't the best choice for a movie featuring all g/g.

I have to confess the costume starts on the wrong foot for me. I don't think you mess with an icon unless the main stream media already has done so successfully as it did with Batman. I don't get Hollywood's and pornwood's repeated failures to respect the Lynda Carter costume icon if only for profit's sake.

Some fan's inability to let Lynda Carter's portrayal go is one of the reasons the character continues to stumble in attempts to bring her back to the screen. That portrayal suited the times and fueled many male fetishes (including mine), but it's time to stop living in the past and move forward.

I appreciate your thoughts on this matter, but I simply disagree. Adult content parodies of icons like Batman and Superman succeed because they emulate the icons upon which they are based not by making departures from them. I again point to the success of Axel Braun's "Batman XXX" which painstakingly followed the series costumes to almost every detail. So did Superman XXX. In my opinion, playing to past icons is the whole point and previous Axel Braun successes validate this approach. I guess we will all have to agree to disagree.

athenaartemis wrote: Adult content parodies of icons like Batman and Superman succeed because they emulate the icons upon which they are based.

You're absolutely correct. Familiarity is the key. I just hear the Lynda Carter argument so often anytime WW is discussed on screen (be it mainstream or fetish material), it's gotten tiresome. But in the context of what you're saying, you're absolutely correct.

I have to wait for more screen caps and promo images, but for a mainstream guy, I like Axel's work. I consider this at least worth a viewing.

Shakeshift wrote:This looks AMAZING and should have some great B/G scenes in it as well. Axel does quality work when it comes to the parodies. Nobody does it better. I own several of his film parodies and his attention to detail is perfect.

Shakeshift,
I agree Axel Braun's parodies are excellent in their attention to detail. I will be interested to see where he goes and doesn't go with WW.
-Tyr Garm (WW-XXX(CC) Executive Producer and Writer)

axel's stuff is great, which is why he keeps getting the job to direct these,,,,i would think the WW would be perfect stuff with him at the helm, but none of the promos show shiny hose :( that could be a deal breaker dangit!!!
BTW CC had done some amazing B/G stuff in her past, (some even RP forced stuff,,,classic!!! she looked great before the cosmetic upgrade wish i knew why she got away from it but im sure its personal so i never asked

she is how ever awesome at what she does,,,everything she produces or takes part in always turns out great, i have a very large CC collection even the stuff you cant find anywhere any more which i am quite proud of (no i wont trade)

since it's being discussed, what examples of CC's b/g work is anyone talking about?

The costume looks incredible! Too bad it's for a mainstream porn parody :'(

Batfxxx I would say has been the most decent mainstream parody so far - with perhaps 10-20 mins of actual storyline. I wouldn't expect too much from the upcoming WW parody - but if it increases interest in our little niche market, can't hate it too much.


Christina would be perfect for this - she's always perfect for WW obviously. Also, it is true Christina has done B/G in the past - but it is possible for levels to change.

Have you considered how old both those vids are? - Possibility she doesn't do B/G anymore?

Not going to name names, because some people can't tolerate any criticism of their favorite actress, but I absolutely loathe that "granny panty" look of the 70s era Linda Carter WW, but I suppose actresses who are on the heavy side would prefer it.

The costume in the OP is fabulous. Hope it stays on, at least partially during the action, but those XXX parodies always always manage to remove the superheroine element from the sex scenes.

bultavia wrote:Christina has done at least 2 hardcore videos. One of them was for hogtied. She gave a blow job to J.R. Langdon with being fucked with a dildo on a stick.

Bravo, Bultavia! I remember seeing Christina Carter giving head to a brotha once and was searching the files at the NAACP to find it again

I'd prefer some nice butt shots, like her chained and her ass swaying back and forth in those shorts. Love those star spangled booties.

bultavia wrote:

athenaartemis wrote:

ledonatello wrote:

athenaartemis wrote:
Christina Carter has never done B/G a day in her life.

That's not true.

To clarify, by B/G, I mean HC kissing, anal or vaginal penetration. Basically, a male breaking the planes of one of the three female orifices with one of his own sexual body parts. Do you know of any such productions she has done? I am not including Christina Carter's work with men in strictly bondage productions, non-penetration BG or penetrations by sex toys. Thanks for sharing.

Christina has done at least 2 hardcore videos. One of them was for hogtied. She gave a blow job to J.R. Langdon while being fucked with a dildo on a stick.





I can't find a link for this video anymore, so I'm not sure if it's still being sold anywhere.

The other video is with Mike South. She does oral, vaginal, and anal:



You can buy it here:
http://clips4sale.com/27288

Or stream it here:
http://www.hotmovies.com/video/195931/C ... Girl-Anal/

I stand corrected. Thanks.

I think Batgirl is also in it. Kimberly Kane posted this on her Twitter on March 18th.

I really didn't think the NEW Wonder Woman costume was terrible. I know we'll neversee the Lynda Carter version in a mainstream movie ever so I kept an open mind. The pants bothered me, though. However, when you see these two images in comparison, the Hollywood version of the costume looks REALLY hokey compared to the WW-XXX version. Score 1 for Axel.

Although I think it's Axel's intent to get noticed by Hollywood as a bona-fide filmmaker and creative force.

I think the model has a lot to do with it. Take the girl from the top pic and put her in the bottom costume and she'll still look amazing. I never had an issue with the new top, just the pants were a real turn off and didn't look good at all.

MightyHypnotic wrote:However, when you see these two images in comparison, the Hollywood version of the costume looks REALLY hokey compared to the WW-XXX version. Score 1 for Axel

In regards to the pilot, I think the costume was actually supposed to look hokey. In the pilot, the way they introduced WW, there was no back story other than that she was a super hero who owned a corporation that supported her crime-fighting. "Wonder Woman" was also used for licensing, as explained during the action figure scene, so perhaps the costume was also designed for marketability. Again, I liked the costume of the pilot, because it's campy like the Lynda Carter WW. This costume Wonder Warrior version, who fights Ares & Circe, I don't give a shit about. I'm interested to see what version of WW is being used, i've seen the Avengers & Spider-Man vs. Superman, and this guy is obviously well-read when it comes to superhero comics.

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MightyHypnotic wrote:I really didn't think the NEW Wonder Woman costume was terrible. I know we'll neversee the Lynda Carter version in a mainstream movie ever so I kept an open mind. The pants bothered me, though. However, when you see these two images in comparison, the Hollywood version of the costume looks REALLY hokey compared to the WW-XXX version. Score 1 for Axel.

Although I think it's Axel's intent to get noticed by Hollywood as a bona-fide filmmaker and creative force.

Not exactly a fair comparison between a studio shot with post work, and a candid on the street. This might fair it up a little (emphasize a little)... I still like both costumes. I don't find the hollywood version hokey. Probably a slight preference for the material of the Axel photo. I wonder though if it's strong enough to do fight/action scenes in, if it would weather rough stunt work. Also Palicki's costume may likely have gone through changes over time. We'll never know.

Duran wrote:

RedMountain wrote:I think the model has a lot to do with it. Take the girl from the top pic and put her in the bottom costume and she'll still look amazing. I never had an issue with the new top, just the pants were a real turn off and didn't look good at all.

Kimberly Kane can be hit or miss, depends on who's doing the makeup. She looks fantastic here.

Lighting and postwork and camera placement and the right pose can do wonders! Not taking anything away from Kim, but enhancements are enhancements (and I'm all for them).

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivid_Superhero

Wonder Woman XXX: An Axel Braun Parody - A parody of the Amazon Princess. Starring Kimberly Kane as Wonder Woman / Diana Prince, Evan Stone, and Melody Jordan as Cheetah.

I hope they do the Cheetah properly.

Cheetah is another one that can be hit or miss. I like the Priscilla Rich version (and I hope I'm not alone) but the Debbie Domaine version was interesting and she did a good job up until she was wiped out in CRISIS. I was never a big fan of the post-CRISIS version with Barbara Minerva but they gave her way more story and background than *any* other Cheetah had, thanks to George Perez taking the time as a writer in the early 90's to flesh her out as a villainess and make her a character with motivations and true personality. I didn't like Barbara Minerva, but at least she was a good character to build a story around. I can appreciate that.

I'm interested in the role that Batgirl plays in this, as we don't usually see Wonder Woman and Batgirl working together in DC Comics (apparently Batwoman has been working with WW though in the pages of her own comic for the last few months) but I am hoping it will be something like a WORLD'S FINEST sort of team-up, a powerhouse paired with a street-fighting sort of partner.

When the time comes, I'm hoping we'll see some three-way action with Batgirl, Wonder Woman, and maybe Steve Trevor. Although I'll agree that porn's biggest fault is that it pulls off the entire costume when it's ready to do sex scenes, Alex seems to be a little better at leaving a few things on (even if it is just the tiara and bracelets.) -- My expectations are not super-high, so I hope to be pleasantly surprised by this. I'm cautiously optimistic. I'm sure the production values on this will be amazing as always.

As I get older, I think the smaller details of production become more and more important to me when I'm purchasing straight-up porn. Nice sets, better lighting, good makeup, a decent effort on the part of the players involved. If you have all of those, it's never a BAD porn purchase. It may not be a masterpiece of western filmmaking, but it's never going to be wasted money if you have all of those. At least Alex genuinely cares about his movies.

@ Scribbler -- Thank you for those side-by-side renditions of both Wonder Women, sir! It's nice to see what someone with talent can do to make the Adrienne Palicki costume somewhat palatable with a little time and some Photoshop(tm) magic. You darkened it up and gave it some much-needed texture in the right places.

Many thanks for all of the work that you do.

You're welcome, Shakeshift. Thought it'd be helpful, Good to know that it is.

They can do this same process to live video in motion graphics hardware/software as well, so really we don't know what the WW costume in finished pilot would've really looked like. Certainly lots better than candid shots and test shots on the net. I mentioned this already in a earlier post in this thread, so the coloring adjustments I made to the photo should give people a better idea of what I was talking about re: colorist and color grading. The leaked pilot is a dismal visual representation of what the finished 1080HD version would've been (visually).

I am so glad to see Christina in an interracial scene..especially since is in bondage and riding a sybian....holy shit...that roxxx!

the batgirl in the clip is penny pax, she was batgirl in dark knight xxx,,,oh BTW that only GREAT sex scene in that whole movie, her and the joker, was amazing,

and she never took off the catsuit,,,,,HINT HINT!!! directors im looking right at all of you,,,,,:)

she is beyond hot

I'm pretty sure this film got cancelled when Braun left Vivid. I'm pretty upset. Yes, it would have been mainstream, but she looked amazing. I'm sure it's been shot, just nothing's been done with the footage.

Vivid is still releasing the superhero line of videos in the sequence that they were shot, and I'm sure there's a contractual obligation of some type for Axel Braun to complete all of the projects he started, so although I think it'll be a much longer wait, it'll still get released just at a much slower pace. I'm sure he's excited though to launch his own line and not be stuck doing other people's projects. It may end up being a rush job. There's only two videos left ahead of WW-XXX though (which is great news.)

All I know is we started hearing about this over a year ago. Hell, this thread was started in March of 2013!