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I have been spending some time on Reddit and I've noticed they have a strict policy regarding personal attacks which I am going to implement here. From this point forward, there are to be no more personal attacks, period. If there are, it will result in a ban. Small at first but it will get larger until eventually, banned forever.

There hasn't been anything recently that has made me consider this, but we know we've been through some wars here and I would like that to stop.

Think about what you're saying and I'm not saying you can't disagree or have an opinion or a dissenting view, you're just going to have to get creative about how you do it. Name calling and personal attacks will not be permitted at all.

Please use the report function if you see this happening or if it's happening to you.

That goes for me too. Tally Ho can ban me if I'm bad.

Ha ha! No...no he can't.
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What about excessive complimenting?
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If you can't make an argument without calling your opponent a filthy shitstain on the bootheel of society you've lost the argument anyway. No one will ever listen to a word you say to them if it includes any sort of direct insult at them... so if you want to change someone's mind, or even just get someone to accept that you have a differing point of view that isn't necessarily invalid despite theirs..... don't call them a fuckhead at the same time or you'll just be poisoning your own dish.
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Femina wrote:If you can't make an argument without calling your opponent a filthy shitstain on the bootheel of society you've lost the argument anyway. No one will ever listen to a word you say to them if it includes any sort of direct insult at them... so if you want to change someone's mind, or even just get someone to accept that you have a differing point of view that isn't necessarily invalid despite theirs..... don't call them a fuckhead at the same time or you'll just be poisoning your own dish.

Good point.
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MightyHypnotic wrote:I have been spending some time on Reddit and I've noticed they have a strict policy regarding personal attacks which I am going to implement here. From this point forward, there are to be no more personal attacks, period. If there are, it will result in a ban. Small at first but it will get larger until eventually, banned forever.

There hasn't been anything recently that has made me consider this, but we know we've been through some wars here and I would like that to stop.

Think about what you're saying and I'm not saying you can't disagree or have an opinion or a dissenting view, you're just going to have to get creative about how you do it. Name calling and personal attacks will not be permitted at all.

Please use the report function if you see this happening or if it's happening to you.

That goes for me too. Tally Ho can ban me if I'm bad.

Ha ha! No...no he can't.
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What's the policy with regard to persons who self-identify as being part of the "villain" community?

Is it acceptable for your people to "take it back" and embrace the term, but unacceptable for me to use it as a pejorative term? Such as "You, sir, are a villain!"
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MightyHypnotic wrote:.

That goes for me too. Tally Ho can ban me if I'm bad.

Ha ha! No...no he can't.
Goddamn it! You no good s- oh wait I can't say that

Can I at least ban me if I'm bad?

As MH said if you feel anyone has overstepped the mark including me contact us. It doesn't have to be in the forum if you are being abused by PM again draw our attention to it.
Nobody comes here for abuse (well unless anyone has a fetish that way I guess they might)
Seriously though I keep saying it I am not above the law here either so if you feel I have overstepped the mark feel free to contact MH if needs be (but I would hope we could sort it out ourselves)

While I am here some people in recent months have declared that the forum isn't like it used to be to the extent that they have closed their accounts.

Well, all I can say is NOTHING is like it used to be including you the members- things change over time - its how life works, and this forum AND THE GENRE have changed too. Look at the sort of discussions that used to happen 5-6 years ago. We moaned about not having decent costumes, about having poor fight choreography, about not having proper sets and the villains lair looking suspiciously like a hotel room at the Holiday Inn, about no special effects, about poor acting, bad story , no SH on mainstream TV, no heroines portrayed in films etc WELL WAKE UP! WE HAVE ALL THOSE THINGS NOW (mostly) so yes, there aren't the same sort of discussions asking for them and debates around those subjects. We are in a golden age of heroine media - in film, in tv, in amateur stories, in photomanips, in online comics . We also have unparalleled access to the actresses and producers who make those things - not just here but through Twitter Facebook etc. We can legitimately express our views directly to those responsible but as most of what we were asking for is being done now , YES those conversations are going to be different than they were 6 years ago. You can stay and join in or kick your toys out of the pram and sulk. Its up to you. Be part of things changing for the better or dwell on how things used to be.

MH is implementing this step to minimize antagonism and aggression which is a step in the right direction, but I would say to those who have left or maybe are thinking about it to look around you and BE THE CHANGE YOU WISH TO SEE IN THE WORLD (or on this forum)
Express your opinions, not your ability to insult.
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If anyone is unhappy here, leaving is your choice but I would urge you all to stay and MAKE IT THE FORUM YOU WISH IT TO BE

Just play nice is all, and if you feel anyone oversteps the mark let us know. So yeah, no insults.
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But Tally Ho could go around editing and deleting MH's posts until you ban him. :)
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My two cents to this topic : if they are stubborn like me, and for those who know there is no reason to hide the facts, they will come back with a new login account and if you are lucky they might eventually grown up and do their best trying to focus in stay on topic and adding something into conversation despite be ignored most of the time or only receive some name calling in response for whatever they have to say.

That said, and I'm putting my self in the line on this but the truth must be said, ban people no matter for how long (temporarily or forever) is an useless gesture, a waste of time, very hard to be enforced and even if they learn their lesson or not and come back and place safe for a while going low profile pretending or not to be civil and not falling for the obvious baits in the end you get one of three results : they get tired of all moderation police and leave your forum forever so you lost part of your audience, they come back play nice and only say good things acting like a drone in order to never be seen as "a negative person" that might be purge no matter how reasonable they try to be or they grown up, stay focus and give their honest opinions about this matters despite what other persons might think about them and said comments.

I like this show, I am not leaving and I am doing my best to be an adult despite so many stupid things been done with the stuff I love on television, movies and the internet. We need to find a way to express our minds in a way that is better for all of us and banning people might be a tool of learning but in the end is just a temporary solution for problem that come from the pains of growing up.

Censor and delete posts will only give for the true trolls a blank canvas for a fresh new start without concern or evidence left behind of their past behavior and no matter how bad they were they can always evolve worst if they didn't learn anything from previous experience except whatever they need to deceive better.

As the great Louis C.K. once said : "Spanking your children don't teach them to keep their best behavior, respect and love you, it teaches them to fear and hate you and became a better liar so you will never have a reason to spank them again so they might be free to do their worst no matter if you consent or not behind your back."

Now make yourself free to read this or not, ignored or not, and give some food for thought or not. I struggle with this idea for quite some time before giving a proper response. Whatever it comes now is fair play.
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It looks like I deliver a catch 22.
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My only input on this matter is to disregard the "joking" or "no offense" excuse.
Ive seen it a few times where we get this statement:
"No offense meant but You don't look like a super villain at all. how many super villains do you know that are 400 pounds and 4'5. no offense meant but a super heroine could just tip your fat ass over and walk away.not realistic at all"
or this one I got personally:
"No offense mate but Evangeline is just too old and out of shape to be realistic as a hero. she should be a villain instead they are afforded the luxury of being believable while old"

The tag: "No Offense" can and will be used as a coverup or also:

"You realize of course that you trying to be Wonder Woman is like the ocean trying to be a desert! Wonder woman doesn't have tasteless tramp stamps all over like you do, I couldn't see Batman or Superman having any sort of crush on someone as tasteless as you..... just joking"



I think its a great idea to make people accountable for their behavior, I just want to make sure its understood that apologizing for the insult before saying it or claiming it was a joke won't be accepted as excuses.
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That's kind of an awkward one. The bottom line is that people buy or don't buy these videos primarily on the perceived suitability of the performers. Although most adults should be able to convey preferences without resorting to personal comments.

It seems particularly pointless to criticize the physical appearance of producers who star in their own videos. The people who own the studio obviously won't be going anywhere.

One producer who springs to mind really goes the extra mile in terms of the look of her videos. Even going as far as to hire props (or very good replicas) from the '66 Batman. However, her thing is BBW fetish. There's no diplomatic way to say "Can you do the same type of videos with slimmer models?" So I just have to sigh and accept that she is catering to the market that crosses over the BBW and SH Peril fetishes.
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KnightsofGotham.com wrote:I think its a great idea to make people accountable for their behavior, I just want to make sure its understood that apologizing for the insult before saying it or claiming it was a joke won't be accepted as excuses.
That's exactly part of my point. People must be accountable for their behavior on line but that doesn't mean wipe out all the evidences and give them a free pass to start all over again. They might improve eventually but experience on line proves mostly don't, specially when you erase their actions from memory.

Is a bit of a stretch but in my honest opinion is like killing Hitler before his rise to power and later ask why we still could not prevent world war 2 from becoming a nuclear holocaust that swallow most of Europe and leave Canada as the only remaining fascist superpower in the empirialistic oriented colonial world ? Because we just don't learn nothing from previous history, we also push the reset button one too many timelines for our own good.

One of the guys in the red suit know what am I talking about.
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I wholeheartedly agree with your new policy. People who stoop to insults, personal attacks, calling people stupid, etc. what they are essentially revealing about themselves is that they lack the ability to articulate their beliefs in a civilized manner. You might expect that kind of behavior from children, but adults should be held to a higher standard.
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I am fine with that.
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KnightsofGotham.com wrote:My only input on this matter is to disregard the "joking" or "no offense" excuse.
Ive seen it a few times where we get this statement:
"No offense meant but You don't look like a super villain at all. how many super villains do you know that are 400 pounds and 4'5. no offense meant but a super heroine could just tip your fat ass over and walk away.not realistic at all"
or this one I got personally:
"No offense mate but Evangeline is just too old and out of shape to be realistic as a hero. she should be a villain instead they are afforded the luxury of being believable while old"
With or without the "no offense" thrown in, are either of those examples really the kinds of personal attacks MH is referring to?

To me they seem like legitimate (if not very diplomatically phrased) critiques of the contents and casting of certain videos. The second one isn't even "personal" by definition, unless you happen to be replying to Evangeline herself. And the first one is a comment on the contents and casting of certain videos.

I'm in total agreement that ad hominim attacks are bad and I'm fine with the ban (not that I have any say in the matter or that anyone asked my opinion). And I would never say anything remotely like these examples. But it would be nice to have clarification on what constitutes a "personal attack."

Do my posts about Ashley Graham ripping me off qualify as personal attacks, even though they are factually accurate?

What about the recent threads about Donald Trump? I'm sure there are plenty of examples of real personal attacks in there that apply to all Trump supporters (or all liberals, etc.)
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KennyLoggins wrote:My two cents to this topic : if they are stubborn like me, and for those who know there is no reason to hide the facts, they will come back with a new login account and if you are lucky they might eventually grown up and do their best trying to focus in stay on topic and adding something into conversation despite be ignored most of the time or only receive some name calling in response for whatever they have to say.

That said, and I'm putting my self in the line on this but the truth must be said, ban people no matter for how long (temporarily or forever) is an useless gesture, a waste of time, very hard to be enforced and even if they learn their lesson or not and come back and place safe for a while going low profile pretending or not to be civil and not falling for the obvious baits in the end you get one of three results : they get tired of all moderation police and leave your forum forever so you lost part of your audience, they come back play nice and only say good things acting like a drone in order to never be seen as "a negative person" that might be purge no matter how reasonable they try to be or they grown up, stay focus and give their honest opinions about this matters despite what other persons might think about them and said comments.

I like this show, I am not leaving and I am doing my best to be an adult despite so many stupid things been done with the stuff I love on television, movies and the internet. We need to find a way to express our minds in a way that is better for all of us and banning people might be a tool of learning but in the end is just a temporary solution for problem that come from the pains of growing up.

Censor and delete posts will only give for the true trolls a blank canvas for a fresh new start without concern or evidence left behind of their past behavior and no matter how bad they were they can always evolve worst if they didn't learn anything from previous experience except whatever they need to deceive better.

As the great Louis C.K. once said : "Spanking your children don't teach them to keep their best behavior, respect and love you, it teaches them to fear and hate you and became a better liar so you will never have a reason to spank them again so they might be free to do their worst no matter if you consent or not behind your back."

Now make yourself free to read this or not, ignored or not, and give some food for thought or not. I struggle with this idea for quite some time before giving a proper response. Whatever it comes now is fair play.

A leopard doesn't change their spots. In your case, it's a rhinoceros. Wait, did I just violate my own rule? :buhbye:

Anyway, it's not my pleasure to ban anyone. I'd rather us never have to go there. You've been banned multiple times because you derail too many topics but you told me that you want to be a part of this forum and you know the rules so as long as there's no complaints, then great. Have fun.

We're not on some power trip to try and control anything here, we simply don't want personal attacks. Anything else with the exception of child porn, 2 girls 1 cup or the discussion of the Eye Of Argon will be allowed.
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Smells like somethings cooking in the feelings kitchen.

Accusing a poster of getting off on the misery of Kim Kardasian or accusing someone of being a racist or white supremacists for not agreeing with their view is flying off the handle. Perhaps people just need to check their emotions and quit looking to pick fights. For a time this board was scary. People jumping on posters and grinding them down making fetishes sound evil and scaring posters from talking about their fetishes. Its like some people forget where they are posting. Yeah its partially an adult forum. Yeah people talk about naughty stuff. Yeah some people want to see cheese cake in comics.

And yes the Trump threads got way out of hand. I didn't vote for Trump. I don't vote. But accusing people who disagree with you of being racists and homophobes and the basket of deplorables doesn't help. Skin is worn really thin after decades of listening to that.
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MightyHypnotic wrote:
KennyLoggins wrote:Now make yourself free to read this or not, ignored or not, and give some food for thought or not. I struggle with this idea for quite some time before giving a proper response. Whatever it comes now is fair play.

A leopard doesn't change their spots. In your case, it's a rhinoceros. Wait, did I just violate my own rule? :buhbye:

Anyway, it's not my pleasure to ban anyone. I'd rather us never have to go there. You've been banned multiple times because you derail too many topics but you told me that you want to be a part of this forum and you know the rules so as long as there's no complaints, then great. Have fun.

We're not on some power trip to try and control anything here, we simply don't want personal attacks. Anything else with the exception of child porn, 2 girls 1 cup or the discussion of the Eye Of Argon will be allowed.
And that reveals the origin story behind the name Kenny "Loggins", at least for those who know. And I am glad you compared me with a mighty rhinoceros since I lack the fitness rather than the grace of a leopard but previous experience help me to lose a lot of weight and build some muscle so thank you for your kind words.

The Mighty Hypnotic is certainly the best among the Lannisters and that is a fact far far away from any excess of compliments, is the least I can say but lets not tease each other.

I am sorry for 2 girls 1 cup and in name of all my brazilian country men and women I apologize for our notorious contributions to pornographic scatology, child porn does not deserve a second thought - is not humane - and the Eye of Argon ??? God Lord Man, that's beyond Cthulu, you must be more brave than I previously think just for mention it. Thank you for remind me to forget that and once again thank you for your patience, trust and for make the rules clear.

#BUY PORN, DON'T SHARED IT ! #EACH TORRENT SEED EQUALS MORE 2 GIRLS PLUS MANY CUPS
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MightyHypnotic wrote:Anything else with the exception of child porn, 2 girls 1 cup or the discussion of the Eye Of Argon will be allowed.
Great. Now I have to google "Eye Of Argon" and hope it's not the biggest mistake of my life.
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Instead of ban people make them pay for a membership and if they misbehave make them pay for all violations.

Monetary punishment does wonders for all DMVs across the country and everybody pay their traffic tickets rather than learn how to live without a car. And buy a new car is a lot more expensive than pay for whatever you did with the old one.

Call me naive but I guess that's the best solution.
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TIEnTEEZ wrote:
MightyHypnotic wrote:Anything else with the exception of child porn, 2 girls 1 cup or the discussion of the Eye Of Argon will be allowed.
Great. Now I have to google "Eye Of Argon" and hope it's not the biggest mistake of my life.
BEWARE ! I google it the infamous "Eye Of Argon" and after read about it (not reading from the actual text) I went insane for half an hour. Is not as bad as 2 Girls 1 Cup but if you are really inclined to a more deep religious experience I suggest you study egyptology or read the words of the Necronomicon straight from the pages of the book instead just in case you are a fun of first person perspective filming, chain saws, lumberjacks and dark creepy forests from the British Columbia.

Again, we are warning you, DON'T READ FROM THE PDF FILE, proceed at your own risk and have a nice day.
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I hear there's a producer around here who drops references to the forbidden text into his own work...



http://www.superheroinesxxx.com/viddetail.php?id=284
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Heroine Addict wrote:I hear there's a producer around here who drops references to the forbidden text into his own work...

http://www.superheroinesxxx.com/viddetail.php?id=284
But the forbidden text is Gore and what that obscure producer does is mostly Halmark late night erotic material with no frontal nudity whatsoever anywhere to be found. Is the Sunday Morning School of Porn if he replaced the Mjolnir and used a Hitachi instead, is almost Disney if Mickey start to make PG-16 movies.

And that ends the intermission. Now back to Two Broken Girls and One Sybian !
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TIEnTEEZ wrote:
KnightsofGotham.com wrote:My only input on this matter is to disregard the "joking" or "no offense" excuse.
Ive seen it a few times where we get this statement:
"No offense meant but You don't look like a super villain at all. how many super villains do you know that are 400 pounds and 4'5. no offense meant but a super heroine could just tip your fat ass over and walk away.not realistic at all"
or this one I got personally:
"No offense mate but Evangeline is just too old and out of shape to be realistic as a hero. she should be a villain instead they are afforded the luxury of being believable while old"
With or without the "no offense" thrown in, are either of those examples really the kinds of personal attacks MH is referring to?

To me they seem like legitimate (if not very diplomatically phrased) critiques of the contents and casting of certain videos. The second one isn't even "personal" by definition, unless you happen to be replying to Evangeline herself. And the first one is a comment on the contents and casting of certain videos.

I'm in total agreement that ad hominim attacks are bad and I'm fine with the ban (not that I have any say in the matter or that anyone asked my opinion). And I would never say anything remotely like these examples. But it would be nice to have clarification on what constitutes a "personal attack."

Do my posts about Ashley Graham ripping me off qualify as personal attacks, even though they are factually accurate?

What about the recent threads about Donald Trump? I'm sure there are plenty of examples of real personal attacks in there that apply to all Trump supporters (or all liberals, etc.)

Naw man....its all good. I was giving out personal examples of it being used but can state a few non-personal ones.

1) you suck and you dress like you're on welfare, just kidding

2)no offense but the last time i saw one of your videos I literally felt like throwing up because you're just so ugly

or the combo

3) No offense meant but did you ever think that you were not meant to be a model in super heroine films? you look like you eat your own snots, just kidding.....lol



there...those are three that are not mine. is it a valid point?
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I;m not saying you're a jerk for doing this,let me make that clear I am not calling you a slime bucket jerk.
Just kidding,don't ban me dude :)
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............and please release more videos :)
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KnightsofGotham.com wrote:

Naw man....its all good. I was giving out personal examples of it being used but can state a few non-personal ones.

1) you suck and you dress like you're on welfare, just kidding

2)no offense but the last time i saw one of your videos I literally felt like throwing up because you're just so ugly

or the combo

3) No offense meant but did you ever think that you were not meant to be a model in super heroine films? you look like you eat your own snots, just kidding.....lol



there...those are three that are not mine. is it a valid point?
Or the negging comments.
"Even someone as big as you looks OK in that outfit"


BTW Levi you definitely look like a villain to me.
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Mr. X wrote:Or the negging comments.
"Even someone as big as you looks OK in that outfit"


BTW Levi you definitely look like a villain to me.
Take a long time for a well succeeded villain to be wealth like KnightsofGotham is. Most young criminals lack the necessary budget for that kind of diet and workout exercise equipment he has on his Lair. Not to mention the wardrobe and professional facial hair styler he is able to afford.

Did you saw the villain Alchemy or Savitar from the Flash tv series ? One just wears a mask and hood and the other is a CGI monster of the week.

Good looking villains and the budget to keep them menacing is on decline in the mainstream media, they really lack talented actors and Wilfredo Melendez is the one on high demand this days honestly. Anybody else is just a cock wearing a black suit in most cases even when they don't care to wear a fake cock for most peril scenes.
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I will suggest again, need a Phantom Zone. It takes care of the idiots that do the attacks and the ones who respond.
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In a real bar, if someone was being a disruptive prick, making other customers want to leave and quit coming back, it wouldn't matter whether they were directly insulting or persistently antagonistic but logically unassailable. If the bar manager or his bouncer didn't take care of the problem the other patrons would. Online, the patrons usually aren't empowered to take action, except to leave themselves, so management has to moderate.

Some online spaces want to facilitate a search for truth; some want to be a friendly place for people with something in common to hang out. The latter doesn't need a lot of rules, just (1) try not to be a dick today and (2) if somebody's being a dick today, try to let it go.
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MightyHypnotic wrote:Can we ban someone because they took the name of a mediocre 80's hit maker?
Follow your own rules please.

Before piracy and torrent seeders help to reminds us in the future about an earlier twentieth first century porn producer as only a hit maker parody provider of mildly commercial marginal stream success in some future fetish oriented niche market forum just because somebody else care to use his name as an user login with a minimum of dignity and respect for his artistic efforts.
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