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am I the only one who likes to see the heroine keep the boots on? seems like pretty much every vid (and a lot of stories) take the boots off and I'm a big fan of them staying on.

Yeah, I agree totally, but I think we may be outnumbered... :roll:

I agree

I agree. I've made this arguement on yahoo groups before. I just don't think that if a truly evil villain had a superheroine at his mercy, he would take off her boots.

"Yes, Supergirl. You are at my mercy. I shall fulfill my every villainous desire, and shall do truly evil things to you, starting with...REMOVING YOUR BOOTS!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!"

That scenario doesn't sit well with me. Plus, I just don't like feet.

As with all things involving internet commerce, I would just shrug and say that while I do agree that sometimes boot removal from a superheroine does not make a whole lot of sense.... Neither does someone who is female, 5'3" and 110lbs and fights criminals in 4" high-heeled boots. Sometimes the fantasy is more potent than the reality. =D>

On the other hand, considering what all of these videos are invariably used for.... The boot removal makes more sense. People love sexy feet.

villaness in sandals superheroines in boots!

I hate feet too! There does seem to be an over abundance of foot fetish in these videos. Some producers don't even bother with foot wear in the first place! The genre seems to be dominated by foot fetishists and lesbian lovers. Neither of which I enjoy at all. God I miss the old days.

Im all for a heroines power items been peeled off, even her costume when its done right..............BUT KEEP THE BOOTS ON !

If anything, they should be the last remains of a heroines costume if she is stripped naked.

They are argaubly the most important part of a superheroine costume and removing them only seems to lesson her attraction.
And without them the heroine just looks mortal, that also lessons the impact of her peril.

I like them on. Almost every fetish porno that I have seen..mainstream that is, the girls always wear their boots and keep them on, especially the lez action....makes it kinkier in my opinion...something about skin tight knee high boots that look good. Hey..I am only 5ft1 and I don't wear 4 inch heels!! Watch it bub!

That's what is hot about mainstream goth porn...the boots

flagonforge wrote:am I the only one who likes to see the heroine keep the boots on? seems like pretty much every vid (and a lot of stories) take the boots off and I'm a big fan of them staying on.

I prefer either/or BUT I have to admit that I have seen way too many videos where the boots are removed. Sometimes I dig it becasue it's just a further way of humilating a super heroine. I do hate how some videos spend way too much time filming the villain actually do this though. It just slows everything down.

I understand why producers add it in though. It's just another way of catering to the foot fetish people. What I hate most of all is when the heroine starts the video bare foot. What the hell is that about? This site suffers from that big time!!!

I like the boots left on also. There's something about the boots that complements the heroine's pretty legs. I've never been into foot fetish but apparently lots of people love it.

I respect people's like of the foot fetish...I just personally don't see how it should fit into the superheroine fetish. But once again, that could be because I just don't like feet. They're pretty much my least favorite part of the female body.

i do have a foot fetish, but i would like to see the boots stay on for once.

I don't hate feet. I just really love boots (preferably calf high w/ heels) and always have. At least I'm glad to know I'm not the only one and am in good company. Thanks for your support.

I love to watch a woman's legs dressed in boots, specially black leather pointy toe kneehigh ones!
The way the leather wraps and wrinkles taking the shape of the foot & calf ....like a second skin (emanating that distinctive leather smell!!) giving a symmetry look the the feet & legs (more symmetric than bare toes anyway...)

In case of the heroine boots contribute to project her image of boldness & invincibility...
Along with the mask, boots are a symbol of the heroine's strength & power.

Watching the heroine unconscious but still masked & booted produces a very erotic duality effect… apparently she is still in control... but the limp body, relaxed face expression, and closed eyes show that she’s been overpowered, was no longer able to resist and is now defenseless, unaware and completely at the mercy of her captor!

Add me to the list of "boots on" fans, although in the right instance, for say, when she is getting seduced by a villainess I think it's appropriate, especially in a more sensual vid where the bad girl can peel off her boots slowly and give her an arousing foot massage.

Other than that though I like the boots to stay on, kind of like how I'd rather see her keep her costume or at least pieces of it throughout the peril, w/o her costume, she's just another woman. If her costume has to go than it's incredibly hot to see her in just her boots, gloves and mask. :twisted:

When I started Hypnotics World, I always removed boots because it was something I always wanted to see and no websites were doing it. So I started my own site because of my foot fetish.

But I also do agree that boots on is sexy as well, since the costume makes the heroines. So, as a producer, I was thinking that I will most likely leave the de-booting content to HW and the other sites will have mostly boots on, or removal at some point as part of an overall de-costuming.

But I can't say that I won't give in to my fetishes every once in a while and all the villainess have a go at the soles

I think producers should make what they are into and like because then at least the material will look like somebody gave a sh!t while filming it. These producers who try to put everything in a video just to please as many people as possible end up doing the video no justice. It just becomes a mish-mash of a dozen different fetishes and you end up paying for something you don't even like.

I think this leads to an interesting question: can a producer sometimes make more $ long-term by making videos focused one one or two fetishes to please a smaller, but loyal, paying group, or are they better off making diluted vids that cover many fetishes but eventually may lose them some customers due to the point drh1966 made above, ie paying for fetishes they don't want?

What is your experience, producers?

BTW, I would love to see as many superheroine vids as possible with boots left on, many KO's and some bondage/fondling etc. That's all, that would suit me fine. :-D

I dont know that the video would be diluted. My fetishes are feet in hose and/or tights, leotards, spandex, hypnosis and superheroines. Sleepy Superheroines. So I put them altogether. I guess others had the same fetishes since it seemed to catch on.

I don't look at what's going to make the most money, I look at what I want to shoot. 6 years later I have to tell you it's getting a little boring shooting the same thing all the time, so I branch out and do some other things and then come back to what I was doing. I also happen to like hot girls getting it on. So I went there.

But in keeping with the topic, leaving boots on isn't a big deal. I like the look of it. Watching Wonder Woman do her thing in those red and white boots is sexy. For me the sexiness gets amped up when they come off. For others, not so much. So if you can keep fans happy in THAT way, with the little things, I think it's perfectly fine.

Hey, thanks for the answer, MH. I like your style with the "doing what you like" thing over the $ thing. 8)

And variety is the spice of life, as you say...

By far, I rather keep their boots on.
I know how unpractical it seems to have a fight with high heleed boots, but this is pure fantasy!
My two cents

MH - this is one of my favorite sites and I gotta respect the great work you've done! You've got some really beautiful ladies to work with and you've made some really great vids - keep up the good work! If you can cater to those of us who like to keep the boots on once in a while - that's just icing on the cake!

I'm a boot guy as well. If it were up to me, the boots would never be removed.

Nicely worded, flagonforge - now THAT'S how you make a request!

ranger87 wrote:I agree. I've made this arguement on yahoo groups before. I just don't think that if a truly evil villain had a superheroine at his mercy, he would take off her boots.

"Yes, Supergirl. You are at my mercy. I shall fulfill my every villainous desire, and shall do truly evil things to you, starting with...REMOVING YOUR BOOTS!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!"

That scenario doesn't sit well with me. Plus, I just don't like feet.

Could not agree more.

I know that the stories/situations in our particular niche are quite preposterous, but capturing the heroine only to give her a foot massage (or mild tickling) just kills the credibility of the whole thing for me.

Granted lots of people seem to like it (although strangely no negative votes in this thread yet) but there does seem to be a vast amount of material catering for the barefoot lobby, and very little for us boot fans. Modelstied is the only site I know that actually has women wearing boots and tied up at the same time, but unfortunately it's a bit lacking on the peril front. Everyone else seems to think boots are ONLY for the "dominant" one for some reason.

I like the stockinged feet myself. I think one of the nice things about MH's videos is that we get both.

From a girls POV its like a safety thing...feels more secure if boots are on, like they may provide me a chance to kick someone or use them as leverage...but it also makes legs look even hotter if they are super tight form fitting boots....plus leather on leather seems to hold better...cuffs,ankle straps...etc..I guess that would be the case..I know right?

As an owner of a free website http://www.boots-n-heels.com (cheap plug ) I certainly wouldn't come here to say, "take the boots off!!!" :roll: Hell NOOO!!! Leave them ON!!!

Shakeshift wrote:On the other hand, considering what all of these videos are invariably used for.... The boot removal makes more sense. People love sexy feet.

Narrow minded thinking there Shake [-X ....As a lot of these replies have so pointedly pointed out...

That's why the heronie should keep the boots on, and worship the villanesses feet, much more humiliating and realistic

oxmen2 wrote:That's why the heronie should keep the boots on, and worship the villanesses feet, much more humiliating and realistic

Realistic? Which comic did this happen in?

All I can say in defense of my "pro boot-removal" policies is... The numbers NEVER lie.

I have to agree with the guys above when they say a villain wouldn't capture a superheroine and then make it their first order of business to remove her boots and give her a foot massage or suck on her toes. This is where the whole idea of peril gets lost and these videos become more about the foot fetish. It isn't even about the superheroine anymore. I've seen too many potentially good videos wrecked with this lack of focus on the peril. If I want to see people sucking on other people's feet, I can do that anywhere. I frequent superheroine sites to see peril.

drh1966 wrote:I have to agree with the guys above when they say a villain wouldn't capture a superheroine and then make it their first order of business to remove her boots and give her a foot massage or suck on her toes. This is where the whole idea of peril gets lost and these videos become more about the foot fetish. It isn't even about the superheroine anymore. I've seen too many potentially good videos wrecked with this lack of focus on the peril. If I want to see people sucking on other people's feet, I can do that anywhere. I frequent superheroine sites to see peril.

I agree 100% with you. There are too many foot fetish videos masked as superheroine peril fetish videos. When I see foot play in the previews, I don't even consider buying it. For anyone who truly shares the heroine peril fetish dating back to childhood reading comics, feet were never a part of it whatsoever.

Not that I blame the producers though. Superheroine peril is nowhere near large a fetish as feet. As Shake said, the numbers don't lie. When you put a 5 minute foot scene in a video, the foot fetishists flock all over it not caring what the rest of the video is about.

This is what the problem is. Too many other fetishes getting in the way and dominating the core fetish. It isn't even about the heroine anymore, it's about feet. There are enough foot fetish sites out there to satisfy that demographic, why ruin the heroine fetish for the rest of us? I have a hard enough time finding stuff to buy with all the lesbian crap going on, I have no interest in the villain licking her feet!

Are people really arguing that boots shouldn't be removed because it isn't realistic? If you want realistic, every video should have the villain killing the heroine immediately. Great video, there.

From what I can tell, HypnoticsWorld has always been heavy with foot fetish and lesbian activity. So, I would think that if you don't care for those, you would find another video source instead of complaining about the ones here.

lamejojo wrote:From what I can tell, HypnoticsWorld has always been heavy with foot fetish and lesbian activity. So, I would think that if you don't care for those, you would find another video source instead of complaining about the ones here.

Don't know about anyone else but I'm talking in general. I'm not a customer of MH's for the very reasons you state. And people are just talking, it IS a forum after all and Mighty seems to welcome the discussion. It's all good.

Although I respect other folks fetishes I think of all the ones regularly seen in the superheroine genre the feet one is the most annoying for all the reasons that others have mentioned in this thread.

However as long as movies are adequately described then for me it is avoidable to some extent. Genrally I will only purchase a movie if I know what I'm getting. Bravo to those who describe accurately what you get, ideally the scripts plus the fetishes included.

lamejojo wrote:Are people really arguing that boots shouldn't be removed because it isn't realistic? If you want realistic, every video should have the villain killing the heroine immediately. Great video, there.

No, that's not what they are arguing. They are arguing that removing boots is not true to the source of heroine peril. Death is also not true to the peril either.

lamejojo wrote:From what I can tell, HypnoticsWorld has always been heavy with foot fetish and lesbian activity. So, I would think that if you don't care for those, you would find another video source instead of complaining about the ones here.

Since Mighty is the producer in question, it should be him telling us this not you. But obviously, he has an open mind and actually values other people's opinions even when they do not agree with his own.

drh1966 wrote:I have to agree with the guys above when they say a villain wouldn't capture a superheroine and then make it their first order of business to remove her boots and give her a foot massage or suck on her toes. This is where the whole idea of peril gets lost and these videos become more about the foot fetish. It isn't even about the superheroine anymore. I've seen too many potentially good videos wrecked with this lack of focus on the peril. If I want to see people sucking on other people's feet, I can do that anywhere. I frequent superheroine sites to see peril.

This post CLEARLY is attempting to make the case that removing the boots should not be done because it's more realistic that they not be.

My intention was not to insinuate that people not be allowed to voice their opinions. My problem is with people framing the issue as one thing being objectively better than the other rather than just their own preferences. Just about every single one of the posts about boots has been suggesting that there's something wrong with foot fetish, rather than merely asking for their own preferences to be included. I do think everyone should be able to make suggestions, but I think it's silly to: (1) argue that some fetish is objectively better than another and; (2) to act like a site that has always serviced a particular fetish is somehow not doing service to its fans, when clearly the fans are here because they like what has been going on for years.

lamejojo wrote:

drh1966 wrote:I have to agree with the guys above when they say a villain wouldn't capture a superheroine and then make it their first order of business to remove her boots and give her a foot massage or suck on her toes. This is where the whole idea of peril gets lost and these videos become more about the foot fetish. It isn't even about the superheroine anymore. I've seen too many potentially good videos wrecked with this lack of focus on the peril. If I want to see people sucking on other people's feet, I can do that anywhere. I frequent superheroine sites to see peril.

This post CLEARLY is attempting to make the case that removing the boots should not be done because it's more realistic that they not be.

My intention was not to insinuate that people not be allowed to voice their opinions. My problem is with people framing the issue as one thing being objectively better than the other rather than just their own preferences. Just about every single one of the posts about boots has been suggesting that there's something wrong with foot fetish, rather than merely asking for their own preferences to be included. I do think everyone should be able to make suggestions, but I think it's silly to: (1) argue that some fetish is objectively better than another and; (2) to act like a site that has always serviced a particular fetish is somehow not doing service to its fans, when clearly the fans are here because they like what has been going on for years.

Um...I don't see people saying one fetish is better than the other. I just see them saying that they prefer not to have the foot fetish WITHIN the superheroine fetish. I can understand that. As I've stated before, I can plainly see villains in comic books with enough...questionable morality that, if there weren't limits to the content that can be put in comic books, would openly have there way with a defenseless superheroine. Hell, it's openly stated that the supervillain, Doctor Light, was a rapist, and has fantasies about doing it to superheroines. And many heroines have died in coimc books (Phantom Lady, Wonder Woman, Donna Troy, Supergirl, Artemis, Jade, and many others). This is why I can consider Superheroine peril, rape, and death videos as more "realistic". Because if there were no limits in comic books, these things may happen. I'ts no secret that some writers would explore these darker areas if they could. But never, not ONCE, have I ever seen a superheroine de-booted, let alone her feet played with or sucked on in a comic book. Not even the old Wonder Woman TV series, which was full of peril scenarios. Granted, I haven't seen all of it, but I don't think there is a de-booting scene.

That is why foot fetish within superheroine fetish puts me off. That doesn't mean I don't think the foot fetish is perfectly respectable. I just don't like it myself, and don't think it fits in with the superheroine genre.

There are obviously exceptions. Some people like it. If they didn't, Hypnotic wouldn't be so successful. But I can honestly say that I would buy more of his stuff if it weren't for the foot fetish. And judging from a LOT of the statements in this thread, so would others!

But never, not ONCE, have I ever seen a superheroine de-booted, let alone her feet played with or sucked on in a comic book. Not even the old Wonder Woman TV series, which was full of peril scenarios. Granted, I haven't seen all of it, but I don't think there is a de-booting scene.

I was sure I'd seen a few barefoot sequences in the original forties Wonder Woman material, so I opened up volume 6 of the Wonder Woman archives. Sensation Comics #45 from 1945 features WW having her boots removed so she can be forced to walk on hot coals. I'm sure there's more of this sort of thing, in those first four or five years. In the same story she's chained up repeatedly and blindfolded. All of the original William Moulton Marston Wonder Woman material has now been reprinted in the Archives series. It's a run which should be of interest to any fan of SHIB, IMO. I only wish they made them like this today.

Myself, I don't see the question of boots on or off as being of key importance, in itself. I think a superheroine should always retain some portion of her costume, because the costume is the character. Whether it's just the mask or gloves, tiara and bracelets, or boots - whatever - I think some piece of costume needs to be retained. One of the gripes I've read about Batman XXX is that Catwoman strips down completely for the sex scene, at which point it's just Tori Black with Batman and Robin. With superheroes and villains, the costume is tremendously important.

But that's my point of view, as a reader or viewer. From the level of storytelling and characters, I could understand a villain wanting to reveal the true identity of a foe. But I have a tendency to think that the average costumed foe is going to be more interested in the costumed adversary than whoever is underneath the costume. The villain has a beef with Tremendous Woman, not some Jane Doe they've never heard of. Particularly if the villain is a costumed type, too.

Yeah, I think I'm waaay off-topic and babbling. Sorry about that.

More on topic, foot fetish isn't my thing, but I don't see any reason to object to it. It can be distracting when any fetish receives emphasis in a story or production if it isn't essential to the storytelling. As fetishes go, feet are less distracting than most might be.

Okay, there's an example from 1945...which is over 40 years before I was born, so forgive me for not knowing about it. But even in that, it was for torture purposes, not for foot worship. I still prefer boots on. There are so many fantastic places on the female body to use to humiliate the heroine...for me, feet aren't one of them.

That comic fact aside, you don't get a lot of de-booting in comics. But, I've beaten my point over the head with a stick long enough. Back to the original question. Boots, or bare feet? For me, obviously, boots. For the time spent on feet, I'd rather have time spent on the breasts or crotch, mouth, or even ass of the heroine.

Okay, there's an example from 1945...which is over 40 years before I was born, so forgive me for not knowing about it. But even in that, it was for torture purposes, not for foot worship.

I think any mainstream expression of foot worship (or bondage enthusiasm) has to be expressed under the cover of something more acceptable in the culture... like torture. To find overt foot worship in comics, you'd probably have to step outside of the mainstream. Saudelli's The Blonde is a superheroine bondage series with a strong (visual, at least) emphasis on feet, but it's quite far from mainstream material.

I have to agree that I'd find most areas of the body more interesting.

Apologies if I'm OT. Things that seem to me to be important background points which inform a discussion are actually digressions, far too often.

Well, it looks like there is only one solution: one boot on, one boot off.

Now the key question becomes: right or left???!!!!

#-o

Something to remember when talking about MH's stuff is that he has a style that he uses regularly. And it seems to be working for him and that's why he continues with it. Other producers have a particular style as well and some just throw everything and the kitchen sink into their work to satisfy the majority. Not every producer is going to deliver something that works for you and sometimes even your favourite producer is going to produce stuff that isn't up your alley. That's life.

Fetishes are a crazy thing and people are into a whole lot of stuff that others cannot ever understand. Some people tend to get rather defensive when something is said about their particular fetish but there's really no need for it, especially when nothing was intended. People take this stuff way too seriously.

Sabrejack, that is hilarious. Good answer!

Well, thank you!

flagonforge wrote:am I the only one who likes to see the heroine keep the boots on? seems like pretty much every vid (and a lot of stories) take the boots off and I'm a big fan of them staying on.

Absolutely!

Anyone who's seen porn movies knows that women should never take their shoes/socks off. There's nothing sexier than women fucking with shoes on.

And, agreed!