The Ultimate Superheroines Forum

Heroine Addict wrote:It really is bizarre that nobody is making videos with this costume yet. Is there some sort of consensus that 80s Supergirl is relatively safe to use while the costume from the current TV show would be too likely to attract DC/WB's lawyers?

I think it's a combination of not wanting to cough up the $$ for the costume and being scared of legal troubles after the whole Heroine Movies / SHG fiasco not too long ago. I believe some producers just don't understand what they can and can't do in the legal domain and simply don't want to risk it. Or they don't even want to provoke with any legal battles even though they will ultimately win in court if challenged. This is perfectly understandable for smaller studios/producers with not a lot of capital.

Supergirl the Does Dallas = Not OK
Supergirl XXX a Porn Parody = OK
Superior Girl (with slightly altered emblem) = OK

These legal loopholes are the reason why people like Axel Braun and the people behind Hollywood mockbusters (Transmorphers, Atlantic Rim) are raking it in. They know what they can and can't do legally rather than avoiding it because it's the easy thing to do.

But on the other hand, I still prefer the Helen Slater costume over this new one. Love the classic spandex material and the two-tone skirt.

HeroineTard wrote:

It seems to me that an enterprising SHIP producer could take a moment like this and extend it to its logical conclusion: where a mind-controlled Supergirl lies on a table with very damp panties from a creature capable of providing her with the mental images of a perfect orgasmic moment.

man, this show isn't shying away from the upskirt shots, is it? I imagine Melissa is getting paid very well to do this show!

Looks like we might get some "brief" peeks by the looks of these upcoming pics!

Here are some stills from the Supergirl season finale, during the aerial battle with Non.
"Non – can you see my underwear?"
I think the answer is: "Oui!"
Let's hope for plenty more skirt-flying antics in future when season two is (hopefully) renerwed.

The upskirt shots are nice. Used to be plenty of them in better days. The heroes stand around posing shirtless for long periods of time in the movies and shows for others to ogle. Even if we will likely never get anything as obvious as that to cater to us fellows, it's nice for us to get this little tease anyways.

The ONLY good thing about this crappy show.

Don't forget about the pussy-slide scene in the episode finale.

Wow! How dId I forget that one?!! I'm not the man I thought I was.

That was so hot. Instant boner.

Here's some more excitement from the pussy slide sequence, with the stills lightened up a little for maximum effect!

…And to complete the set…

The best part is that Supergirl was willing to put her pussy out there first with no regard to the safety of her nether regions. She could have gotten a krptonite surprise right there in the cooch.

JennyFromTheBlock wrote:The best part is that Supergirl was willing to put her pussy out there first with no regard to the safety of her nether regions. She could have gotten a krptonite surprise right there in the cooch.

That gal is a god-damned hero.

Stunt mound...............stunt mound!!!!!!!!!!

Nice one! Which episode is that from, ksire_99?

Kara1507 wrote:Nice one! Which episode is that from, ksire_99?

It is the scene she is fighting her Sister, just before all the CGI is done.

K

Excellent, thank you.

Where did you find the non-CGI shot?

Seems like this thread died.

Here are some sweet upskirt frame captures from Season 2. The shot was less than a second long, but as someone obsessed with female legs, it was hard to miss.
Melissa's thighs are lovely. :3
Anyone good with Photoshop could probably make it look like she isn't wearing anything under the skirt. ;P

Wow that is hot! I agree that Mel's got some of the best looking thighs in the biz. Can't wait to (hopefully) see...more of her.

This show just doesn't do it for me. Maybe I'm jaded but hoping for a 1 or 2 second up skirt shot of someone dressed more conservative than a nun just doesn't seem exciting to me. Also the inconsistency of the fighting makes the show bad. Her sister wearing a power exo skeleton getting punched in the face by Metallo? She'd be hamburger meat. Show has some beat downs but its too tame for the peril content for me. Guess I'll just stick to takes posted to you tube. Quite honestly I have not seen one erotic thing on this show. In fact I don't see producers really replicating her suit at all (nor any of the CW character suits) which should say something of the lack of appeal.

In fact I have not gotten into the Flash or Legends and I gave up after season 2 of Arrow. Just nothing all that thrilling. Just my opinion on the subject.

Back in the late seventies there was a TV show called The White Shadow. It was about a former NBA player coaching basketball at an inner city school. I asked a high school acquaintance at the time who was on the basketball team what he thought of the show. He replied that he didn't watch it - "Not enough basketball" - which seemed quite odd to me since it was the only show with ANY basketball.

Our little niche here is partly fueled by a TV show from forty years ago headlined by a superheroine. The Wonder Woman show provided precious few instances of peril for our heroine, and yet those few scenarios still serve as the inspiration for many of the HIP vids we watch now. And now, finally, we have another show with a superheroine as the star. She's beautiful, talented, wears a costume with an impressively short and sexy skirt, and best of all she routinely faces far more peril than Lynda Carter ever did. In just the latest episode she was blasted into unconsciousness by a krypto-beam, picked up by Superman in the iconic cradle carry from the Crisis comic, punched repeatedly by a superpowered enemy, choke-slammed into the ground, thrown into a parked car and screamed in agony from another krypto-blast. Personally, this show is a dream come true for me. I never thought I'd see it.

Mr. X isn't alone in not liking Benoist's Supergirl. I get it, nowadays we have really excellent HIP content from a number of producers. Content that goes right to the elements HIP fans want to see with none of the restrictions of television. But for me, the peril is greatly enhanced when the viewer is emotionally involved with the heroine. That can only come from a long-running narrative where you get to know and love the character. A few HIP producers, like NGC, provide a continuing story line so the viewer can get invested in the characters, but not to the extent possible in a weekly TV series. So bring on the Melissa Benoist Supergirl. We may actually get at least two full seasons of a TV show about an iconic superheroine who fights hard, doesn't win every battle and makes us care about her. Bravo!

Bert wrote:Back in the late seventies there was a TV show called The White Shadow. It was about a former NBA player coaching basketball at an inner city school. I asked a high school acquaintance at the time who was on the basketball team what he thought of the show. He replied that he didn't watch it - "Not enough basketball" - which seemed quite odd to me since it was the only show with ANY basketball.

Our little niche here is partly fueled by a TV show from forty years ago headlined by a superheroine. The Wonder Woman show provided precious few instances of peril for our heroine, and yet those few scenarios still serve as the inspiration for many of the HIP vids we watch now. And now, finally, we have another show with a superheroine as the star. She's beautiful, talented, wears a costume with an impressively short and sexy skirt, and best of all she routinely faces far more peril than Lynda Carter ever did. In just the latest episode she was blasted into unconsciousness by a krypto-beam, picked up by Superman in the iconic cradle carry from the Crisis comic, punched repeatedly by a superpowered enemy, choke-slammed into the ground, thrown into a parked car and screamed in agony from another krypto-blast. Personally, this show is a dream come true for me. I never thought I'd see it.

Mr. X isn't alone in not liking Benoist's Supergirl. I get it, nowadays we have really excellent HIP content from a number of producers. Content that goes right to the elements HIP fans want to see with none of the restrictions of television. But for me, the peril is greatly enhanced when the viewer is emotionally involved with the heroine. That can only come from a long-running narrative where you get to know and love the character. A few HIP producers, like NGC, provide a continuing story line so the viewer can get invested in the characters, but not to the extent possible in a weekly TV series. So bring on the Melissa Benoist Supergirl. We may actually get at least two full seasons of a TV show about an iconic superheroine who fights hard, doesn't win every battle and makes us care about her. Bravo!

Well said, Bert!!

These shows rarely last very long so we should enjoy them and appreciate them while they're here. I'm sure there are countless teenage boys and girls doing so, a new generation of peril fans being generated that will being its own creativity to bear on our niche for many years to come.

Other than the knockout dart in the first episode this show has been completly worthless.

If it doesn't have a TOS and butt pat, you're not a happy camper. If you hate it so much, just ignore it and let us supporters have our fun. Talk about Debbie Downer!

DrDominator9 wrote:

Bert wrote:Back in the late seventies there was a TV show called The White Shadow. It was about a former NBA player coaching basketball at an inner city school. I asked a high school acquaintance at the time who was on the basketball team what he thought of the show. He replied that he didn't watch it - "Not enough basketball" - which seemed quite odd to me since it was the only show with ANY basketball.

Our little niche here is partly fueled by a TV show from forty years ago headlined by a superheroine. The Wonder Woman show provided precious few instances of peril for our heroine, and yet those few scenarios still serve as the inspiration for many of the HIP vids we watch now. And now, finally, we have another show with a superheroine as the star. She's beautiful, talented, wears a costume with an impressively short and sexy skirt, and best of all she routinely faces far more peril than Lynda Carter ever did. In just the latest episode she was blasted into unconsciousness by a krypto-beam, picked up by Superman in the iconic cradle carry from the Crisis comic, punched repeatedly by a superpowered enemy, choke-slammed into the ground, thrown into a parked car and screamed in agony from another krypto-blast. Personally, this show is a dream come true for me. I never thought I'd see it.

Mr. X isn't alone in not liking Benoist's Supergirl. I get it, nowadays we have really excellent HIP content from a number of producers. Content that goes right to the elements HIP fans want to see with none of the restrictions of television. But for me, the peril is greatly enhanced when the viewer is emotionally involved with the heroine. That can only come from a long-running narrative where you get to know and love the character. A few HIP producers, like NGC, provide a continuing story line so the viewer can get invested in the characters, but not to the extent possible in a weekly TV series. So bring on the Melissa Benoist Supergirl. We may actually get at least two full seasons of a TV show about an iconic superheroine who fights hard, doesn't win every battle and makes us care about her. Bravo!

Well said, Bert!!

These shows rarely last very long so we should enjoy them and appreciate them while they're here. I'm sure there are countless teenage boys and girls doing so, a new generation of peril fans being generated that will being its own creativity to bear on our niche for many years to come.

Exactly.

And Melissa looks HAF in that costume.

To know if something is popular or unpopular it needs to be tried. Put an attractive model in the new costume and discover if fans flock or flee.

Of course it's important for it to be a quality movie by a great director, and that the actress isn't only hot, she needs to also posses an element of cuteness like Melissa. Plethora of hot actresses making movies, get one that's cute too.

Find a hot and cute actress, put her in the new costume, barrage her with perilous plight, and they will come.
By TormentorX

Yes well expressed Bert. The longest journey starts with a single step and whether you like this or not you have to concede that there is
a) always a chance that it will deliver in an episode something for some group in our community
and
b) it might lead to bigger and better things

We are richer as a community with it, than without, so I hope it sticks around*

(*I also hope Mel will knock on my door and say 'Take me Tallyho! Take me now!' but I think them getting another season is more likely)

Heroine Addict wrote:It really is bizarre that nobody is making videos with this costume yet. Is there some sort of consensus that 80s Supergirl is relatively safe to use while the costume from the current TV show would be too likely to attract DC/WB's lawyers?

Actually, it won't, unless you follow the character (not the costume) into 100% duplication.

I have asked a laywer about parody of Superheroine before, there are 2 rules (or law) basically cover fan make type costume and copyrighter character.

-Fair Use Policy

You can use copyright material, or a portion of it, if what you are intent to do is to review, parody or satire in nature. Basically, if you want to review the TV show supergirl, you are allow to plug some of the film without the studio consent and do so, same situation with the costume.

-Character is copyrighted, not the costume.

Technically, you cannot copyright a costume, a costume is an creative works as it was build from nothing, and what you make with your own sewing machine and what the studio make is of completely different concept, quality and style, the only way you can infringe a character by the way of creating a costume is when you have the studio make you one (Then that particular costume would have been the IP of the studio, not you) and you wear them protraying their character without their consents.

When you make a supergirl costume, that costume is in no way or form official (as the only official one are the one made by the studio) That goes to original art work too, since there is always going to be deviation when you copy an art work, your work would then said to be "inspired" by the original work, not a rip off.

The only exception is that you called your Supergirl inspire outfit "Supergirl" then you are in violation of IP Law, as Supergirl is the trademark of DC and Licensed to be use by CW.

In short, you can create that outfit yourself, but you cannot name your outfit and/or character "Supergirl"

The name, chest emblem and distinctive likeness are trademarked.

As you say, fair use offers limited rights for the transformative purposes of critique, satire or parody. Which gives limited protection to the producers who are explicity making porn/fetish. However the 'mainstream' PG-13 producers may find themselves slapped with a cease and desist order if they use the distictive likeness of Supergirl in a straight video that isn't transformative.

No really if there is no knockout and ots carry it IS a worthless waste of time.

Debbie

Heroine Addict wrote:The name, chest emblem and distinctive likeness are trademarked.

As you say, fair use offers limited rights for the transformative purposes of critique, satire or parody. Which gives limited protection to the producers who are explicity making porn/fetish. However the 'mainstream' PG-13 producers may find themselves slapped with a cease and desist order if they use the distictive likeness of Supergirl in a straight video that isn't transformative.

Name and Chest Emblem yes, likeness, not in this case, no........

The first two are easy, one is name (which itself is intellectural properties) while the other one is a distinctive design.

The third one is a bit grey, what is distinctive likeness to be exact? If we are to copyright supergirl via her distinctive likeness, then it would have been the comic version of the supergirl, not Melissa Version. Then two things you will need to notice.

1.) The distinction.

What make supergirl design distinction? Is it because of the red cape, blue leotard? or because of the symbol? Bear in mind the style of the costume is not distinctive at all, the characterization is basically built by putting several commercial garment (in this case, a red cape, blue 2 pieces or leotard, red boots, or may or may not be with black pantyhose.) Those are all commerically, off the shelf item. In fact, in this case, the costume itself is non-discrete, which means, you can, buy all these item I said above, without the CW/WB/DC apporaval. But not with the "S" design and the name supergirl

2.) The trademark.

You cannot trade mark a likeness unless it was related to brand promotion or association, however, in this case, we are talking about Supergirl Comics, which means they are cartoon characters, otherwise you will be trademarking Melissa Benoit Likeness, not supergirl.......Now, if we make a live action movie about "supergirl" but call it whatever else, you cannot be violating the "Likeness" of a cartoon as you are a human, not a cartoon. How exactly can an actual woman (or god forbid, a man) looks like a cartoon? A violation cannot be make if you are comparing between a cartoon character and an actual live human......

There lies a creative process to transform a character from Cartoon to Live Action, a process which you and I applies differently, of course, you will get into trouble if you intentionally wear a blue leotard with a S stylized by the trademarked version on your chest, what if the S is different? Or The S is in different places, or missing althogether? If that is the case, and if the trademark held, then effectively you are outlawing a specific style, which basically ban everyone wearing blue leotard, red skirt, red cape, black pantyhose and red boots together. If this is allowed, then the first thing I can think of the all celeb style are of IP violation, and the high end fashion will simply gone as it feed on celeb trend

What the heck is going on here? Are there members that think some personas should be off limits?

I kind of thought that was the point. lol

Stop over thinking it or just take a prosaic.

K

ksire_99 wrote:What the heck is going on here? Are there members that think some personas should be off limits?

I kind of thought that was the point. lol

Stop over thinking it or just take a prosaic.

K

I thought it was more to do with making a fan video of the character and whether that lands you in hot water. For th life of me I don't know how producers get away with a flat out supergirl or wonder woman costume. I'd just do some original character that was similar to avoid the issue.

I'm not a fan of the show but I'm not going to ruin other peoples' enjoyment of it. And who knows. They may get some nice stuff in.

If you're able to parody the old costume, you're able to parody the new costume. It's a non issue, the end.

The hesitation is likely due to the fact one is qualitative in regards to monetary response.

Odds are, the right model in the new costume would be lucrative.

Well ..I realky like this thread!!

Incubus wrote:If you're able to parody the old costume, you're able to parody the new costume. It's a non issue, the end.

The hesitation is likely due to the fact one is qualitative in regards to monetary response.

Odds are, the right model in the new costume would be lucrative.

The new one seems more complicated to me. More seams, special material. The older one is just a blue leotard with an emblem and a skirt. But yes I'm sure one can find a seamstress for cheap on Craigs list. It would just be a little more money.

The reason it would likely be worth the investment and successful, is due to the fact everyone clamoring for it has nowhere else to go. If the movie is good, the costume appealing, and the model attractive, there would be a frenzied rush to get the first aptly done parody.

Lots of peril, Melissa's SG costume, and a hot and cute adept actress, equals an extraordinary monetary response.

To restate, the look of the model is imperative, you can't just get a hot adult film actress. You need to acquire a model, that looks like that one head turning girl, traversing almost each and every college. Hot and unquestionably, indispensably cute, just like Melissa.

A parody involving this scene, with the capture at a considerably lower height to allow some salacious, suspension bondage, uncooperative interplay, would be for many, an instant buy.
Any producer, interested in acquiring the Melissa SuperGirl costume, PM me.

Bondagefan2002 has a few videos with Blair Blouson in a Supergirl TV costume.







http://clips4sale.com/78415/bondagefan2 ... ERHEROINES

Been awhile but finally new "research"

dajinx1 wrote:Been awhile but finally new "research"

My goodness, that thigh-gap is cavernous on Melissa.

JennyFromTheBlock wrote:

dajinx1 wrote:Been awhile but finally new "research"

My goodness, that thigh-gap is cavernous on Melissa.

In fairness Jen thats been obvious from the start! Any excuse to see that pic!

The best upskirts yet from the Survivors episode.

Nice finds! Melissa is the total package from head to toe. What I wouldn't give to see her struggle in her suit without her skirt!

Oh, and a couple of goodies from the Crossfire episode.