The Ultimate Superheroines Forum

Imagineer wrote: ↑

7 years ago

Brazzers used to have a site called Porn Star Punishment. The site and its content got pulled for being too extreme.

I wonder how many average porn customers would be squicked or even angered by SHIP's non-consensual themes.

I wonder how many SHIP fans are sick of you pissing on non-hardcore studios for having the temerity to exist despite your expert understanding of the market.

If you ran into SHG Media's content and it didn't appeal to you, you'd keep searching. That's what the average porn customer does.

Some fans of SHIP who don't like things getting too sexual make a lot of noise, and some of the noise that some of them make is frankly discriminatory, as if there's nothing wrong with their fetish but something wrong with other fetishes -- or as if their enthusiasm isn't really a fetish. But you know what? They don't bother me nearly as much as your constant war on everything you personally don't think is awesome.

Keep searching for a way to advocate for what you think is cool without pissing on everything else, because you definitely haven't found it yet.

Renegade wrote: ↑

7 years ago

In my view, SHiP can have porn.. but when you get down to defining our niche of the adult industry, SHiP is first and foremost fetish, and not defined by being porn.

There's a broad spectrum of producers who make films that are most all plot and (fighting) action that don't even involve nudity to producers who make films with 3-5 minutes of set-up and then nearly entirely about more hardcore action. (I enjoy most all of it.)

I'll agree that the more 'mainstream' porn producers miss the boat by staging porn scenes in spiffy costumes, that's outside the genre to me.

bushwackerbob wrote: ↑

7 years ago

Sam Kinnison once described standup comedy as a rainbow, that there are various colors of the rainbow, that there is something for everyone, some people like mainstream standup like Jerry Seinfeld while others like the more edgy stylings of Louie CK. I think of superheroine peril the same way, that there is something for everyone. Some people like their SHP hardcore while there are others like me who like more emphasis on the story, the acting, and some psychological peril in the video. GeekyPornCritic, the only thing I object to in your post is your criticism of SHG's business model, and the insinuation that hardcore is a superior business model to SHP softcore. Everybody can like whatever they like, it does not make one bit of difference to me. SHP is a very colorful rainbow with consumers with very diverse tastes and interests. The worst thing that could happen in this industry in my opinion would be for every studio to listen to you and change their business model to hardcore. I want a diverse rainbow SHP industry, I do not want every company vying to be the next Primal. Variety is the spice of life.

GeekyPornCritic wrote: ↑

7 years ago

SHIP is our beloved genre. Superheroes and comics have more a part of mainstream culture. This largely due to Marvel's major success at the box office. On the other hand, DC has been a major failure with a few exceptions. Wonder Woman is currently their hottest character on the market as she is getting a squeal.

I wonder how many people are aware of SHIP. My friends watch mainstream porn and hentai. They had no idea SHIP exists until I told them. I've never seen SHIP advertised outside of SHIP sites and Twitter. So I wasn't surprised by them not knowing SHIP until I told them.

Mainstream companies rarely film videos that are considered SHIP. Axel Braun is the most well-known director for SHIP in mainstream porn. However, I argue his videos are not SHIP. His videos not contain any peril or very little peril. He produces a few SHIP movies a year and far less videos than the producers on this board.

I think the average porn customer has no idea SHIP exists and only knows Axel Braun's parodies. As some of you know, I was once one of those people. I had no clue about SHIP. Supergirl and porn were on my brain one day. I searched Google for the two terms, and discovered The Violation of Supergirl starring Alli Rae and Kendra James. I've been hooked on SHIP since that day.

I was a member on mainstream forums by Brazzers and Naughty America. None of the people on those forums ever mention SHIP. They would only mention Axel Braun. It appeared they were not aware of Kendra James, Primal Fetish, Tropic City Heroines, SHL, etc. They would only mention every other fetish related to mainstream porn.

The average porn customer does not want softcore videos. It's either hardcore or no go. If I ran into SHG Media's content, then I would not be interested in this genre. At least half of the models on SHG are hardcore pornstars. Most of their fans expect hardcore videos from them, and will not bother buying a softcore video.

I also read the comments about SHG Media at Heroine Movies. Most of the comments are very against hardcore sex, and some want five minute sex scenes. It's clear this audience has little to no interest in hardcore porn. They're probably a small minority of a pornstar's fan base. Pornstars become online famous for hardcore videos. For example, interest in Ashley Lane exploded after she became a hardcore pornstar. Her fan base expanded from softcore SHIP fans to a huge base of hardcore fans.

My comments are not a knock at SHG. They produce high quality videos as I've watched their trailers. However, their videos are PG-13 and Rated-R. A porn customer is looking for XXX and beyond.

My Twitter page is mostly about SHIP. Every week people are messaging me about finding SHIP. They notice the pictures on my page, and become interested in the genre.