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Dune 2 Review

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2024 4:55 pm
by Dazzle1
On my flight to LA , I was able to rewatch the movie and I think Lynch's version is far better

My main problem is that Denis Villeneuve decided that he could make major changes to the plot and the story and his version was better.

First and foremost is the expanded role of Chani and to make her the opposing Freman voice to Paul. Chani is a strong character in the book but she was a loyal follower to Paul as well as his lover

Jessica pulling the strings behind Paul's back. Jessica did not want Paul to use the religious mantle in the book.

Feyd Ruatha in the movie is a sociopath with no developed character. He is far better developed and has a lot bigger role in the book.

Stilgar being a willing fanatic believing in the prophecy, that is not Stilgar in the book till the very end.

Re: Dune 2 Review

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2024 6:15 pm
by Malice
Hey ya,

I did watch the original, but too long ago to ever pretend to stand as an authority on the matter.

Be that as it may, I found myself perplexed by the same elements that unsettled me in Part One.

The movie is a great showcase of what a cinematic experience can be in 2024. (If you had the chance to see it in cinemas.)

The immersive set pieces are breathtaking. However, the narrative structure and pacing seem less effective especially during a home viewing experience.

The cast is great, although not always served by the best dialogues. I still feel some scenes are simply remarkable. Example:

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That being said, the movies strays in between the more spectacular sequences. The tension, or lack thereof, often left me disengaged rather than on the edge of my seat.
"Feyd Ruatha in the movie is a sociopath with no developed character. He is far better developed and has a lot bigger role in the book."
It’s an all-too-common trope in adaptations these days: filmmakers believing they can elevate the source material by reshaping characters to fit modern agendas.

There seems to be a recurring narrative that men must be portrayed as savage brutes, tamed only by the wisdom of women, a convention that feels more influenced by Hollywood trends than faithful storytelling.


The fact of the matter these stories are for everyone, and were intended as such. Too many of us here understands how a coma can betray the substance of a phrase, how a material is intended to be read, and what it should convey, and why some decisions are originally made.

It's crazy that 20 odd years after the ending of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, Hollywood still ponders about how to properly adapt books...

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Am I ambivalent about Dune: Part Two? Perhaps. While it offers many brilliant moments, its intrinsic flaws and questionable creative choices prevent it from reaching its full potential.

Still, could be worse. I’d argue it’s a hundred times better than Jupiter Ascending.

6.8/10

Re: Dune 2 Review

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2024 7:50 pm
by jlocke
Malice wrote:
1 year ago
Hey ya,

I did watch the original, but too long ago to ever pretend to stand as an authority on the matter.

Be that as it may, I found myself perplexed by the same elements that unsettled me in Part One.

The movie is a great showcase of what a cinematic experience can be in 2024. (If you had the chance to see it in cinemas.)

The immersive set pieces are breathtaking. However, the narrative structure and pacing seem less effective especially during a home viewing experience.

The cast is great, although not always served by the best dialogues. I still feel some scenes are simply remarkable. Example:

Image

That being said, the movies strays in between the more spectacular sequences. The tension, or lack thereof, often left me disengaged rather than on the edge of my seat.
"Feyd Ruatha in the movie is a sociopath with no developed character. He is far better developed and has a lot bigger role in the book."
It’s an all-too-common trope in adaptations these days: filmmakers believing they can elevate the source material by reshaping characters to fit modern agendas.

There seems to be a recurring narrative that men must be portrayed as savage brutes, tamed only by the wisdom of women, a convention that feels more influenced by Hollywood trends than faithful storytelling.

The fact of the matter these stories are for everyone, and were intended as such. Too many of us here understands how a coma can betray the substance of a phrase, how a material is intended to be read, and what it should convey, and why some decisions are originally made.

It's crazy that 20 odd years after the ending of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, Hollywood still ponders about how to properly adapt books...

Image

Am I ambivalent about Dune: Part Two? Perhaps. While it offers many brilliant moments, its intrinsic flaws and questionable creative choices prevent it from reaching its full potential.

Still, could be worse. I’d argue it’s a hundred times better than Jupiter Ascending.

6.8/10
I thought using a sock puppet account was a bannable offense?

Re: Dune 2 Review

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2024 9:20 pm
by Malice
I thought using a sock puppet account was a bannable offense?
I beg your pardon, but what have I done to deserve such baseless claims?

And what is your purpose, stranger?

Fighting the ‘evil’ lurking in a movie critic on a kinky fetish forum, eh?

Is calling out the tired 'Men=Bad' trope too much for you? My sincerest apologies, I will post my reviews in the dungeon next time with a R-Rated tag...

So peace, and since you don't know who I am...

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Re: Dune 2 Review

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2024 11:23 pm
by jlocke
Malice wrote:
1 year ago
Having 2 accounts is bannable. Even for a producer. I've reported you and Shevek. I'm sure the Mods or the Admin will be able to get to the bottom of it.

Re: Dune 2 Review

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2024 7:53 am
by Malice
Ok,

Is slander and personal attacks on someone a bannable offense?

I’m looking forward to the moment when it’s finally proven we’re not the same person—because then, I’ll be expecting your apology.

But let’s face it, you won’t have the guts to admit you were wrong, will you? Typical.

And this idea that you can ‘sniff out an IP through words’? That’s just pathetic. Any other superpowers you want to flaunt, kiddo?

For the record, I’m not even in the U.S. I write stories set there, but I couldn’t care less about who you’re voting for or what paranoid theories you’re spinning.

That said, I’m more than happy to answer legitimate questions from an admin—but certainly not to your pitiful inquisition. (Like, what authority do you think you have, exactly?)

Expressing my views about a tired Hollywood trope isn’t political—it’s just called having an opinion. Unlike you, I haven’t been parading my political preferences across this forum. For the record, I haven’t cast a vote in the last 15 years, and I have no intention to start now, especially after seeing how warped people's minds become, even in unrelated contexts.

My goal here has been simple: to keep this forum alive. I actually care about that. I’m not here to spread any message, just to keep the place buzzing, improve my craft, and maybe help others along the way.

I actually think that the readers of this forum have enough brain-cells to develop an opinion of their own. They don't need me, nor you to have an ideology.

I will sit down and talk with anyone, as long as we trade on a basis of mutual respect , assuming my presence here is nothing but a Trojan horse, is not only utterly disrespectful, it is borderline insulting... To yourself.

And just to be 100% fair, I’m currently working on a story that explores a sapphic journey—how my heroine comes to terms with her sexuality... So, if we’re being honest, I wouldn’t exactly be the ideal guest at a conservative family dinner. Neither would my opinions.

You can criticize my work, my movie reviews, and dislike them as much as you want, but trying to trap me in a category of your own making is exactly what my folks and I have been running from for decades.

I remember when I used to be chased by dozens of kids at school, forced to hide in the restrooms because of the color of my shirt.

I'm not trying to squeeze tears from you, soulless wretch — just know that the feeling your words provoke is eerily reminiscent of that day. Not that you'd care. I know fiends like you too well, draping yourselves in a mantle of virtue, in a pitiful attempt to occult their inner demons.

My name is Malice, and I wear it proudly.
I don't need to parade my 'virtues' loudly.
I'm bound for hell, more than likely.
Just scroll through my history, you'll see.

Yet, only St peter or the Devil shall decide my fate, not some miserable monster. (Though I’m not sure you're even worthy of such an honorific title.)

I consider myself queer, and I watched 'Bros'—thought it was awful. So, have I crossed a line? Should I disclose my full name, address, and medical records while I’m at it? Even then, it probably wouldn’t be enough.

What’s the next stage? Once I clear your doubts about my legitimacy, will I also need to justify that I’m not an inter-dimensional child molester?

Or will I have to write a 15000 words essay on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is?

The interstellar void and your delusions have something in common: their inherent infinity remains an ever-perplexing endeavor for scientists worldwide.

But that's fine. I'm sure you feel entitled to insult unapologetically, cowering behind your ideology as you would behind a shield.

I stopped believing in the cause you defend the day I realized that following people like you only leads to an auto-da-fé.

I will not stop commenting in this forum, will keep the political shoite to a minimum, not because of you, but because it's already what I've been doing all this time.

By the way, check the time stamps on my messages, genius. It’s currently ten to one where I am. I’ve wasted enough time addressing your "points"—or, as the proud people of Ireland would say, your load of shoite.

If you can’t grasp that, go cook yourself a rock and stop spreading your toxicity around.

If I hurt you prior to this message, I sincerely apologize, that was not my intention—until now. That said, I kindly invite you to spend some intimate moments with your lonesomeness, so the rest of us can enjoy some peace.

Are you alright? Any craic? How them lemons taste?

I’d wish you a speedy recovery, but...

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Re: Dune 2 Review

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2024 12:05 pm
by jlocke
Malice wrote:
1 year ago
Ok,

Whole lot of text that definitely came from Ireland
When you visit this forum it logs your IP. In the past the Admin have checked these addresses and banned accounts that are using sock puppets. I reported you. If you are who you say you are, no worries, my mistake, and I'll cue up the John Cleese apology speech from A Fish Called Wanda. If you are a sock puppet, you'll get banned.

Re: Dune 2 Review

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2024 12:16 pm
by Malice
When you visit this forum it logs your IP. In the past the Admin have checked these addresses and banned accounts that are using sock puppets. I reported you.

Mom?

No recitation of lines, however masterfully delivered, from works far greater than yourself could ever mend the appalling display of ignorance you've cast upon this day. The notion that your petty sleuthing might unravel anything of substance is laughable at best, tragic at worst.

Report away. I assure you, neither your accusations nor the consequences they might bring could ever diminish the gulf between us.

A chasm defined not by IP addresses, but by intellect and the clear lack thereof on your side.

And yes, definitely from Ireland!

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Póg mo thóin!

Re: Dune 2 Review

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2024 2:12 pm
by jlocke
Malice wrote:
1 year ago
Still definitely Irish and not from Pittsburgh
So you don't have anything to worry about. I'm sure the first dozen times you logged in you logged in from Ireland. The Admin will see that and say, he's not a sock puppet.

Re: Dune 2 Review

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 8:55 am
by Ernie
I don't know or care if Malice is actually shevek, but they certainly share the same thin skin and verbosity and arrogance and condescension. His goal is to keep the forum alive? He's just barely started posting.

Re: Dune 2 Review

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 12:18 pm
by Malice
Ernie wrote:
1 year ago
I don't know or care if Malice is actually shevek, but they certainly share the same thin skin and verbosity and arrogance and condescension. His goal is to keep the forum alive? He's just barely started posting.
And that is fair enough... I don't disagree, it's just an opinion, not an accusation.

You're free to speak your voice no matter how harsh it is, especially when voicing something accurate. I welcome it, you have no idea, I just happen to have a low tolerance to calumny is all.

Spreading lies is different, if you never been a victim of rumors you can't relate.

Re: Dune 2 Review

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:37 pm
by MightyHypnotic
jlocke wrote:
1 year ago
Malice wrote:
1 year ago
Ok,

Whole lot of text that definitely came from Ireland
When you visit this forum it logs your IP. In the past the Admin have checked these addresses and banned accounts that are using sock puppets. I reported you. If you are who you say you are, no worries, my mistake, and I'll cue up the John Cleese apology speech from A Fish Called Wanda. If you are a sock puppet, you'll get banned.
TBH, I can tell by their writing styles that Malice is not Shevek.
But to put inquiring minds at ease, I did do an IP check and...not even close. Not even the same continent.

HOWEVER, this old trick doesn't work any longer in the world of cheap VPN's.

I will say this, however, if it's anyone's goal to disrupt the forum, then they'll be temp banned, perm banned, whatever works.

Re: Dune 2 Review

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 9:03 am
by DonShip
Vindication for Malice. Now maybe we can get back to super heroines in peril. I try to avoid the drama because it spoils the pleasure of the fetish. Let my heroines suffer the drama, I say.