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Disney back the wrong person



Pascal bombed as MR Fantastic and he was the racist that should have been dumped

I am happy for Gina Carano. Saying something imbecilically stupid ought not be a fireable offense. Let's leave it at that.

I always thought it showed no artistic integrity to flip the table on a project because they didn't agree with an opinion held by someone who was otherwise doing good work in the project. One of the better things to emerge from the last six years or so has been a pushback on over-zealous cancel culture and extreme pillorying of mild dissenting opinions, and I hope that continues. There probably is a line somewhere if someone's actual actions are horrendous, but generally I would much rather only judge the work of artists on the content of what they produce, or what their performance is - and I really do not care about what spicy (or totally mild) opinions they shared. I'm no more interested in learning the political views of performers and artists than I am in seeing a politician playing a role in a movie.

It's nice that she won her case and we're seeing the pushback on this type of lunacy, but the damage from this one is done. She lost the role, Disney diminished the story they had been telling, and the viewers lost one of the more interesting characters they could have enjoyed.

I wish the best for any actor or celebrity, regardless of their political views, that mindset is one that almost all rational, reasonable people used to share before social media and cancel culture warped people's minds. It's nice to see the tide turning back towards sanity again.

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Some of her views were, to many, offensive. Bashing mask wearing during a pandemic is not helpful. A lot of people died, more than needed to, and putting out unqualified medical advice, was not using her celebrity well.

Since the Republican president is currently setting up concentration camps, I guess we can agree they aren't like the Jews in the Holocaust

know several Transgender people, it costs me nothing to respect their preferred pro-nouns.

She is welcome to do what ever job she wants, firing her for being offensive is not unreasonable for a media company focused primarily on children. The Right was more than happy to see Kathy Griffin take a hit over a tasteless joke, or Dylan Mulvaney for existing at all, so I don't really care.

I will have no problem not watching anything she appears in, but good luck to her.

sneakly wrote: ↑

10 months ago

Spoiler

Some of her views were, to many, offensive. Bashing mask wearing during a pandemic is not helpful. A lot of people died, more than needed to, and putting out unqualified medical advice, was not using her celebrity well.

Since the Republican president is currently setting up concentration camps, I guess we can agree they aren't like the Jews in the Holocaust

know several Transgender people, it costs me nothing to respect their preferred pro-nouns.

She is welcome to do what ever job she wants, firing her for being offensive is not unreasonable for a media company focused primarily on children. The Right was more than happy to see Kathy Griffin take a hit over a tasteless joke, or Dylan Mulvaney for existing at all, so I don't really care.

I will have no problem not watching anything she appears in, but good luck to her.

Disney's legal filings indicate it was her remarks comparing contemporary times, social media, to the Holocaust, is what got her fired by Disney. Really stupid, but not really a fireable offense.

Media companies like Disney usually have clauses in their contracts about off set conduct. The stars of shows for children have moral clauses, I am sure everyone in a Disney+ production signed one. When Tim Allen was hired to play Santa Claus, Disney had to make an exception to their policy of not hiring convicted felons. My guess, and it is an uninformed one, is that Disney looked at what happened with CBS, Columbia and Harvard and decided that this wasn't a battle that was worth fighting and settled.

They don't need or want months of reporting on something that happened 4 years ago that is heavily politicized, especially when there are lots of politicians that would rather bash Disney so people don't look too closely at who they were partying with or how the make their money.

Good for her! Maybe you'd like to change the thread title to "Gina". I don't think "Gino" is her preferred gender, ha ha.

Also, we know the Clownfish folks, they're very nice.