The Concept of Forced Orgasms

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The Concept of Forced Orgasms

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Forced orgasm is one of the most common themes in SHIP. It is very degrading and humiliating for a superheroine to be forced to cum. The act feels the superheroine with shame and embarrassment. On one hand the heroine says she should not be liking this. On the other hand if the public is watching will believe she wears a slutty costume to get men's attention and enjoys being tied up by villains. I was thinking force orgasms don't actually exist in SHIP from my point of view.

Let me explain my point of view. A superheroine orgasm is a sign of arousal from the villain. He or she is turning the heroine on, thus the superheroine find this person sexually attractive. Finding a person to be sexually attractive does not mean the superheroine likes the person. You can hate someone and think the person is sexually attractive. The heroine is only telling the villain to stop because he is the enemy, and she does not want to be defeated and violated by a bad person.

An orgasm is an admission of a superheroine finding the villain sexually attractive. She would at least be willing to have have sex with him if he was a good guy or a regular Joe at the bar or library. So she wasn't actually forced to cum. She allowed him or her to make her cum by having a desire for this person. If he or she turned her off, then they were be unable to force an orgasm. The superheroine would not feel the desire to cum.

That's just my point of view for my own guilty pleasures. How do you view force orgasms in SHIP? What does the concept mean to you?
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For me, being forced to cum is proof of control.

The villain can control the heroine or hero to the point where, for example, by using a vibrator of some sort, they no longer have control over their body, and the villain can make them cum at the press of a button.
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I agree, the villain by making her cum is playing her like a musical instrument, using just the right keys to get her to hit the high notes. I do think that when this happens it is important that the heroine must articulate her helplessness and lack of power to control the situation, otherwise we have a porn video with a woman wearing a superheroine costume. In my opinion the superheroine has to let us know that she is an unwilling participant in her own debauchery, even if she does enjoy it.
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I agree with the aforementioned comments. When the super heroine can't help herself AND gets into it (even perhaps talking dirty as she lets herself go), I find that to be some of the best of the sexual humiliation. But I feel like the super heroine needs to be in costume (or most of her costume) as being humiliated in the identity of the super heroine is a big part of it. Conversely, when the super heroine is stripped down, the character changes for me and the gravitas of the super heroine is removed and the scene is now merely a woman giving in to her captor.
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The build up to the orgasm to me is the best...the point she is so aroused that she will practically say or do anything especially when orgasm denial is used first....bringing her almost to orgasm but stopping..then doing that again and again..trust me the mental stress of that is pure punishment and if it happpens to a heroine...in public or in front of a group while in bondage..the ultimate humiliation!! then when she does finally cum, it makes it even better if she a male villain cums on her face or in her mouth, forcing her to swallow his ultimate dominating loads!! then make her cum over and over till she passes out....the forced orgasm...the greatest gift a girl can get
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I see the forced orgasm as the comments above.

The superheroine is dominant ... so high and mighty that no one can be in the same realm her much less make her *gasp* orgasm. When the villain defeats her and makes her orgasm, it is the loss of control and power for the heroine ... her pure mind and body are betraying her ... and she might actually like it.
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I don't think the heroine has to find the villain attractive at all. Forcing a super heroine to climax is the ultimate sexual power over her. Her body is betraying her due to the physical, and mental, manipulation of her body. She fights it, not wanted to experience any kind of pleasure from THAT PERSON. And she doesn't want to give them the satisfaction of making her climax.

It's a power dynamic with nothing to do with sexual attraction IMHO.
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DonShip wrote: 1 year ago I don't think the heroine has to find the villain attractive at all. Forcing a super heroine to climax is the ultimate sexual power over her. Her body is betraying her due to the physical, and mental, manipulation of her body. She fights it, not wanted to experience any kind of pleasure from THAT PERSON. And she doesn't want to give them the satisfaction of making her climax.

It's a power dynamic with nothing to do with sexual attraction IMHO.
I agree!! I prefer it when it fact she hates the orgasm giver....disgusted by them even...afraid of them and sould never stoop to their levels...plus too many orgasms actually become pretty damn painful
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GeekyPornCritic wrote: 1 year ago Forced orgasm is one of the most common themes in SHIP. It is very degrading and humiliating for a superheroine to be forced to cum. The act feels the superheroine with shame and embarrassment. On one hand the heroine says she should not be liking this. On the other hand if the public is watching will believe she wears a slutty costume to get men's attention and enjoys being tied up by villains. I was thinking force orgasms don't actually exist in SHIP from my point of view.

Let me explain my point of view. A superheroine orgasm is a sign of arousal from the villain. He or she is turning the heroine on, thus the superheroine find this person sexually attractive. Finding a person to be sexually attractive does not mean the superheroine likes the person. You can hate someone and think the person is sexually attractive. The heroine is only telling the villain to stop because he is the enemy, and she does not want to be defeated and violated by a bad person.

An orgasm is an admission of a superheroine finding the villain sexually attractive. She would at least be willing to have have sex with him if he was a good guy or a regular Joe at the bar or library. So she wasn't actually forced to cum. She allowed him or her to make her cum by having a desire for this person. If he or she turned her off, then they were be unable to force an orgasm. The superheroine would not feel the desire to cum.

That's just my point of view for my own guilty pleasures. How do you view force orgasms in SHIP? What does the concept mean to you?
It is one of my favorite parts of a good video.

It is both mental and physical domination that can break the heroine/hero

It works well with M/F F/F and F/M

I don't think they have to find the villain attractive, if anything the mental torture is better when there is not the attraction
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I actually prefer it not be there. I like sexual peril scenes where the heroine is just having a miserable time. Moaning in pain, crying, etc. However, if a scene goes from that to an eventual unwilling orgasm, that's fine.
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SnidelyW wrote: 1 year ago I actually prefer it not be there. I like sexual peril scenes where the heroine is just having a miserable time. Moaning in pain, crying, etc. However, if a scene goes from that to an eventual unwilling orgasm, that's fine.
I would recommend SHL's Uninvited series. They have superheroines moaning in pain and crying during sexual peril.
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GeekyPornCritic wrote: 1 year ago Forced orgasm is one of the most common themes in SHIP. It is very degrading and humiliating for a superheroine to be forced to cum. The act feels the superheroine with shame and embarrassment. On one hand the heroine says she should not be liking this. On the other hand if the public is watching will believe she wears a slutty costume to get men's attention and enjoys being tied up by villains. I was thinking force orgasms don't actually exist in SHIP from my point of view.

Let me explain my point of view. A superheroine orgasm is a sign of arousal from the villain. He or she is turning the heroine on, thus the superheroine find this person sexually attractive. Finding a person to be sexually attractive does not mean the superheroine likes the person. You can hate someone and think the person is sexually attractive. The heroine is only telling the villain to stop because he is the enemy, and she does not want to be defeated and violated by a bad person.

An orgasm is an admission of a superheroine finding the villain sexually attractive. She would at least be willing to have have sex with him if he was a good guy or a regular Joe at the bar or library. So she wasn't actually forced to cum. She allowed him or her to make her cum by having a desire for this person. If he or she turned her off, then they were be unable to force an orgasm. The superheroine would not feel the desire to cum.

That's just my point of view for my own guilty pleasures. How do you view force orgasms in SHIP? What does the concept mean to you?
I think perhaps I don't quite understand what you're saying. Are you simply saying that you like to think of forced orgasms as an admission of attraction when you're watching SHiP stuff? Or are you saying that it actually means that a woman is attracted to her attacker if she orgasms?
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Damselbinder wrote: 1 year ago I think perhaps I don't quite understand what you're saying. Are you simply saying that you like to think of forced orgasms as an admission of attraction when you're watching SHiP stuff? Or are you saying that it actually means that a woman is attracted to her attacker if she orgasms?
I think a superheroine is attracted to her attacker if she orgasms. There are certain exceptions such as being forced into a machine or given a drug to arouse her.
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GeekyPornCritic wrote: 1 year ago
SnidelyW wrote: 1 year ago I actually prefer it not be there. I like sexual peril scenes where the heroine is just having a miserable time. Moaning in pain, crying, etc. However, if a scene goes from that to an eventual unwilling orgasm, that's fine.
I would recommend SHL's Uninvited series. They have superheroines moaning in pain and crying during sexual peril.
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I like the comments posted here... they give an insight and some understanding into, indeed, what is a major theme in the SHIP genre. So many of the productions from most producers include the element of a Superheroine (and Superhero for that matter) or Villianess in bondage and being forced to orgasm. I happen to like that aspect of the genre. It is part of her (his?) punishment, being dominated or defeated. Whether the victim ends up liking it or not... giving in or trying to fight it, that is part of the psychological intrigue of the story for me. It is in my mind a form of torture... even sensual torture/torment.

That also includes the sexual play surrounding a forced orgasm.... breast play, nipple play, unwanted kissing or caressing really adds to the physical unwanted arousal with which they are being tormented.

It isn't just about the physical act, but the verbal taunting or interaction that puts it in perspective... at least for me. Having the Domme taunt/tease or otherwise describe the Sub's predicament adds to the story and intensity of the victim's torment. And for that matter, having the tied up Sub responding, expressing his/her feelings at their predicament (or their thoughts in a VO) just adds more intensity and perspective.

What I dislike in any of the fetish videos I've seen is the dead silence while a sub is being treated to a forced orgasm/ejaculation. It is so boring. How much of that can one watch? For me... not very long as it is all the same... I could look at a still photo and get the same effect for most of the clip. ADD some dialogue and reaction and THEN you have an intriguing scene, some insight into what the victim is feeling, what power the Domme is having over the Sub. This is especially true in SHIP plot-driven videos. There is a bit of that out there, thank heavens, and it gives me the incentive to purchase the video.

Particular to me (maybe others out there) is the aspect of the sensual/sexual torture implied with forced orgasms. I'd wish producers would include that in their dialogue. .. they are being tortured in some form or another. For me it isn't that they "just" want to force an orgasm out of a Superheroine, they want to torture them! They want them to feel the punishment, degradation or subjugation the Villian(ness) is putting them through.

The other side of that torment is the "come over to the dark side" aspect of forced orgasm. I like that aspect as well.. the Villian(ness) torturing the Superhero(ine) and getting them to enjoy it and want it... giving into their inner sexual desires to be evil. The Sub starts out defiant and sure of themselves... then as the sensual torture continues... being egged on (edged on ??) by the Domme, they begin to weaken and give in... and enjoy the torment to orgasm. I find that kind of torture scene very enjoyable. It can be a very sexy interaction.

And that sexy interaction is a main part of why I'm attracted to this genre. Perhaps I'm in the minority here, but I much less like the battle and punches scenes.... if they are not then followed by the sexual torment. For me that is the peril that I like.

So, that is my little 2 cents regarding forced orgasms. These are what I look for the most in these films from the SHIP genre.

I hope producers out there might agree and add this to their productions... although I know they each have their established fan-base.

Looking forward to continued great content in future productions.
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This is one of the worst (best?) defeats. The whole time of being worked up to it... fighting it... trying not to give in. But my body reacts, I can feel my nipples stiffening and my clit throbbing, the heat and wetness from my pussy, all of it. Then being pushed over that edge, despite how hard I might be fighting it. Super intense.

The REALLY devious ones don't stop at one either. And/or they mix in edging... alternating some times.

Fuck.
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