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Just curious. The tenant next to is has a boxing/wrestling ring for sale. I could start a wrestling series under CtL or Rapture. How many of you are into the wrestling format type sites/series?
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personally I just prefer superheroine content, but a wrestling ring is always a good setting for a superheroine match!
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I like the idea...... superheroine wrestling matches....... make a wrestling gauntlet match........ The ring makes powers go away(bad for heroine)....... can also make it like training sessions....... introduce a superheroine wrestling league.....
can have some crazy bad guys as well..... I think it can open up some new ideas.......
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I was actually thinking more along the lines of DT Wrestling. To do this, I cannot use existing actresses. They aren't wrestlers and know nothing about wrestling or how to do it.

It would have to be targeting actresses who have done this before. I'm sure they can dress up in costumes but I don't know that it would be Superheroine inside a ring. It's literally some trash talking with a wrestling match.
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You can actually use your actresses if they do fight scenes. They would just fight in a ring. We used to do that. Some extra dimensional force traps the heroine in a ring to fight some opponent for the entertainment of all powerful beings. You don't need body slams. Its just another place to fight.

Now if you're actually looking for wrestling matches, that's another issue.
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Mr. X wrote:You can actually use your actresses if they do fight scenes. They would just fight in a ring. We used to do that. Some extra dimensional force traps the heroine in a ring to fight some opponent for the entertainment of all powerful beings. You don't need body slams. Its just another place to fight.

Now if you're actually looking for wrestling matches, that's another issue.
I wouldn't buy it just for location purposes. I wouldn't get anything out of the investment.

I was looking into beginning a wrestling site. ;)
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I think it's an awesome idea, especially if they're superheroine themed
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LOGAN then I am only going to assume that you have found the target area of DT SISTERHOOD OF SUPERHOINES
http://sisterhoodofsuperheroines.com/

I can only speak for myself at the moment, Back in those days when that site was release I was hooked, I own/purchased every episode George Perez was part of, when it fell off , even got a response from him why , & that was pretty much obvious having the mind of GEORGE PEREZ, in a live action well I have not to this day regreated one penny that I spent to by those, & back then those were top MOV file version at that time. IF they were to be re-released in HD the would jump back into the places like this CLASSICS always do that , that is why I think you with your depth along with the way you can please those that want specifics is A MATCH.

Mr. Perez in my view took DT Wrestling to a new direction & they are still using part of his idea to this day, so there is a market for it LOGAN
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I saw this post & didn't even read past this one post, reason, for me you are taking some of the best of al that is used in MAJOR movies
HeroineLegends wrote:I was actually thinking more along the lines of DT Wrestling. To do this, I cannot use existing actresses. They aren't wrestlers and know nothing about wrestling or how to do it.

It would have to be targeting actresses who have done this before. I'm sure they can dress up in costumes but I don't know that it would be Superheroine inside a ring. It's literally some trash talking with a wrestling match.
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I am definitely up for a wrestling site especially if based around super powered heroines and villans.

GLOW was an awesome series way back when with some of the wrestlers being so easy to imagine as superheroines, Americana for example and Nikita being an excellent villaness.

DT used to run The Sisterhood of Superheroines with the help of George Perez but sadly other commitments have drawn him away and the SoS website has dropped in quality with many of DTs superheroine videos no longer appealing to me.

BUT just a little spark for your imagination Logan they did often use a ring and in one George Perez story the ropes were energised to zap any superpowred person that hit them, naturall cornering a heroine and wrapping her between the ropes to hold her in place while she takes a beating is very efective *WEG* And if I remember correctly the ropes aided the villaness.

Ring Divas have some cool movies based on heroines too and Ring Women Wrestling also have a few great superheroine wrestling videos.

Remember DT have used legends from our genre such as Christina Carter, Diana Knight, Cali Logan, Tanya Danielle, Jewel Marceau,Francesca Le and many of the newer actresses/models too, If you ran a revolving rosta like DT the possibilities would be incredible.
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Meh.
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My concept for this is to make it like a WWE live show where you can see cameramen and they talk to the camera and it's a big show with Superheroine type characters. Intrigued?
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HeroineLegends wrote:My concept for this is to make it like a WWE live show where you can see cameramen and they talk to the camera and it's a big show with Superheroine type characters. Intrigued?
Intrigued and interested especially if there is some commentary

"Oh that's gotta hurt, Lady Wonder just speared Allura into the corne rpost and is now pounding away at her midsection...and Allura goes down..this is bad Lady Wonder is paying you a tribute Hacksaw she has just pulled out a 2 by 4!"

Come on Logan make it happen hehe!
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So do we prefer PG-13 or R-rated? That determines the company that produces it. :)
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HeroineLegends wrote:So do we prefer PG-13 or R-rated? That determines the company that produces it. :)
Well that depends on which target area of fans you want to reach, I think that the Alex Bertlinger site X-Club Wrestling has a good following and that is R rated I believe but is not so superheroine centric as when it first started out.

DT do both but sadly, for me at least, the quality of their superheroine matches has plumetted since they lost the comic book influence andPG plus fondl ing style, there have been some pretty graphic naked beatdowns that once the superheroine outfit was removed became dull to me.

I find the odd topless or just single bared breast in a wrestling match can be fun especially when the unlucky fighter is shocked and horrified at being slightly exposed but a good old fashioned corner beatdown or an over the corner ropes stretch and bellt pounding is way more exciting than lost clothing.

I am only one fan so perhaps a poll would help?

GLOW got me started in the wrestling sid eof the genre Tina Ferrari aka Ivory or Tina Moretti I think he rreal name is just blew my mind in GLOW what a body!

For the GLOW fans -
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Do it!!!
If you compare "modern" DT matches to the classic ones, the fight quality has massively decreased - with a few exceptions of course. But generally speaking it's just "porn stars rolling around in a ring" instead of fetish wrestling like it used to be with the early DT tapes or Golden Girls (!). I do buy from DT regularly and commissioned a few customs with them and I still like their work, but most of the matches they release nowadays are just too mainstream for me.
I would be happy to see a concept like Golden Girls again, where the focus is on hard fought matches.
I've noticed you work with Erika Jordan on the other project. That's a good start. I'd give my right arm to see her and Tiffany fight each other
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Tiffany and Erika wouldn't be in the same video ever though. Tiffany is 100% PG-13 and Erika is R.
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tommy84 wrote:Do it!!!
If you compare "modern" DT matches to the classic ones, the fight quality has massively decreased - with a few exceptions of course. But generally speaking it's just "porn stars rolling around in a ring" instead of fetish wrestling like it used to be with the early DT tapes or Golden Girls (!). I do buy from DT regularly and commissioned a few customs with them and I still like their work, but most of the matches they release nowadays are just too mainstream for me.
I would be happy to see a concept like Golden Girls again, where the focus is on hard fought matches.
I've noticed you work with Erika Jordan on the other project. That's a good start. I'd give my right arm to see her and Tiffany fight each other
Golden Girls WOW! you are going back.

I used to buy VHS tapes through mail order from DT,Festelle,Goldenb Girls and Leather and Lace.
Leather and Lace along with DT have definitely lost the old school feel.

Makes me think of Stacey Burke and Eve Ellis before they had boob jobs and Francesca Le before her nose work.

This is a must happen project.
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I think that you have obviously thought this out to the extent where you know you would have enough performers to sustain either style that you decide to go with, be it the R vs PG versions, I am partially basing this on the responces from devoted fans of this concept so far & that of my own interest in this idea.
I say :yes:
Myself I am more into the action fighting than the Rated stuff as that is what has attracted me to your production in the first place over other sites lately.
You have fans here that have expressed a pretty good knowledge of the past attempts to produce this & they pretty much seem to say the same thing , lack of talented fighting performers is what has pretty much defeated those early sites mentioned above.
I feel that this would be a plus for not only us the fans, but also a gain for you & your team.
1 it would be another way to actually move forward with the fighting skills & training to make the scenes in all your productions even better.
2 it would fill a Niche that is somewhat absent & I feel is ready for a come back, just needs the right company & mindset to do it properly again.

I personally think you have that all & hope that you do go forward with this concept. :)

HeroineLegends wrote:Tiffany and Erika wouldn't be in the same video ever though. Tiffany is 100% PG-13 and Erika is R.
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Ripper1 wrote:I think that you have obviously thought this out to the extent where you know you would have enough performers to sustain either style that you decide to go with, be it the R vs PG versions, I am partially basing this on the responces from devoted fans of this concept so far & that of my own interest in this idea.
I say :yes:
Myself I am more into the action fighting than the Rated stuff as that is what has attracted me to your production in the first place over other sites lately.
You have fans here that have expressed a pretty good knowledge of the past attempts to produce this & they pretty much seem to say the same thing , lack of talented fighting performers is what has pretty much defeated those early sites mentioned above.
I feel that this would be a plus for not only us the fans, but also a gain for you & your team.
1 it would be another way to actually move forward with the fighting skills & training to make the scenes in all your productions even better.
2 it would fill a Niche that is somewhat absent & I feel is ready for a come back, just needs the right company & mindset to do it properly again.

I personally think you have that all & hope that you do go forward with this concept. :)

HeroineLegends wrote:Tiffany and Erika wouldn't be in the same video ever though. Tiffany is 100% PG-13 and Erika is R.
Im 100% interested in this concept. My editor and I have been tossing around amazing ideas to bring up production value and sex appeal

Love hearing feedback from everyone because if I do this, I wanna do it right.

Thanks for the support, everyone - I'm super excited to jump into this part of the genre!
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Logan - Ripper1 really put it all together perfectly, I am heavily into SvE because it is sexy but not R rated and if usually full of great action.

There really is a vacuum formong in this niche and you have the tools to fill it for us.

Have you ever seen the Peter Falk movie "All the marbles" it was titled "California Dolls" over in the UK but some of the ring scenes in the match for the title are amazing, the strong tall character Iris being stretched across the corner rops, post at her side midsection skywards as the two girl tag team stretches her out then pounds her midsection, the actress name escapes me right now but I do know it gives such a great performance, very hot!
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'm super excited to hear that you're interested in doing it. I really hope that you're able to find a niche to fit in, may be you can invest 25 dollars and buy a Golden Girls match to get the idea of the old-school feel which has a stronger focus on fighting which should suit your awesome choreography. Oh, I wouldn't mind if Erika steps down to PG-13 to fight Tiffany. She does fight at DT with her top staying in place ;) But there are so many other experienced "R-Models" around. My favorite DT fighter is Celeste Star, she goes full throttle in each video
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I would LOVE to see you producing superheroine wrestling Logan !
PG-13 or Rated-R, I don't really know what's the best. As many, I prefer PG-13 because i'm more into "classic" wrestling than nude/topless stuff. However, some of popular moves (like facesitting pin, matchbook pin....) may be uncomfortable for PG-13 actress. But I must admit, seeing Tiffany, Lindsay or Shannon wrestling would be mindblowing :D
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I like the idea of occasionally rolling out an R-Rated match to break things up and to emphasize how extreme the situation may be between the two characters facing off.

Why don't you ask George Perez to get involved?
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Well if we went with PG-13, there would never be an R-rated match because those actresses would not cross over into doing mature content. So that would need to be established from the beginning. Either always PG-13 or always R.

I've worked with other producers in the past. Sometimes it works well, sometimes not so much. Often times, it becomes to be "too many cooks in the kitchen". That's where specialists come in - wrestling advisors in this case.

Erika wouldn't be stepping down to PG-13 for the simple fact that we don't want any confusion within our own people of the dividing line between CtL and Rapture. They don't mix and none of the actresses will be working both.

I have someone taking a look at the ring to buy tomorrow since I'm out of town and we can move from there!
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I would think, if that's the case, to stand out in the market for wrestling and superhero-themed wrestling, you'd need to be a Hard R because then you'd be different from the awesome stuff Alex Bettinger does and different from other companies pumping out occasional superheroine themed wrestling peril (like Sleeperkid's World).

So, that's my two cents. Go R, use blood and nudity, and just have a blast with it.
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frankzito wrote:I would think, if that's the case, to stand out in the market for wrestling and superhero-themed wrestling, you'd need to be a Hard R because then you'd be different from the awesome stuff Alex Bettinger does and different from other companies pumping out occasional superheroine themed wrestling peril (like Sleeperkid's World).

So, that's my two cents. Go R, use blood and nudity, and just have a blast with it.
No offence to SK but I bet he just grew 5 inches being banded with AB LOL! Different leaague> Different universe more like.
The reason I avoid a lot of what could be good superheroine based wrestling/fight movies are because of bare feet and mats..I hate mats!!

Personally I feel such great production deserves PG rating as there really are bucket loads of nude wrestling matches, maybe not many that go all the way but I don't think Rapture plans to go full monty+ anyway.

But we all like different things but loosing the chance of a wrestling based series starring the CTL rosta would be a crime LOL!
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Well there are a few things to factor here. Wrestling is a very different beast than stage combat and acting. I wouldn't think the majority of our actresses would actually participate in the wrestling series. We would need to cast specifically for athletic females who have done this type of thing before.

So with that in mind, being PG or R really doesn't matter much. I don't plan to do full nude wrestling either - it's been done a lot already and I'm aiming more for Superheroine wrestling in character. It's just a matter of how far into adult territory the scenarios and motions go which will determine the girls to use. I'm assuming this will probably be R, but if there is a strong enough request for PG, then that's what we will do - but keep in mind that the PG actresses have very firm limitations of what they will and won't do.
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HeroineLegends wrote:Well there are a few things to factor here. Wrestling is a very different beast than stage combat and acting. I wouldn't think the majority of our actresses would actually participate in the wrestling series. We would need to cast specifically for athletic females who have done this type of thing before.

So with that in mind, being PG or R really doesn't matter much. I don't plan to do full nude wrestling either - it's been done a lot already and I'm aiming more for Superheroine wrestling in character. It's just a matter of how far into adult territory the scenarios and motions go which will determine the girls to use. I'm assuming this will probably be R, but if there is a strong enough request for PG, then that's what we will do - but keep in mind that the PG actresses have very firm limitations of what they will and won't do.
Well if you cast someone like JC Marie for example she wil be happy doing PG 13 and or R.

BUT please define what your R rating covers please? Maybe PG 13 rules out topless nudity but over here a daily newspaper often contains topless nudity, a glamour model posing for the shot not a random acidental occurence. Also where does R stop and Hard R begin?
Why doesn't the US invade the EU and put all this across th epond confusion to rest for me, I like gallons and pints but now I buy beer in a glass in pints but damnned bottes in litres bring on the revolution Bomb Brussels LOL!
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HeroineLegends wrote:Well there are a few things to factor here. Wrestling is a very different beast than stage combat and acting. I wouldn't think the majority of our actresses would actually participate in the wrestling series. We would need to cast specifically for athletic females who have done this type of thing before.

So with that in mind, being PG or R really doesn't matter much. I don't plan to do full nude wrestling either - it's been done a lot already and I'm aiming more for Superheroine wrestling in character. It's just a matter of how far into adult territory the scenarios and motions go which will determine the girls to use. I'm assuming this will probably be R, but if there is a strong enough request for PG, then that's what we will do - but keep in mind that the PG actresses have very firm limitations of what they will and won't do.
Well if you cast someone like JC Marie for example she wil be happy doing PG 13 and or R.

BUT please define what your R rating covers please? Maybe PG 13 rules out topless nudity but over here a daily newspaper often contains topless nudity, a glamour model posing for the shot not a random acidental occurence. Also where does R stop and Hard R begin?
Why doesn't the US invade the EU and put all this across th epond confusion to rest for me, I like gallons and pints but now I buy beer in a glass in pints but damnned bottes in litres bring on the revolution Bomb Brussels LOL!
I know a lot of people leaning toward PG have done so with my current cast in mind but my existing actresses wouldn't be doing the wrestling series so regardless of PG or R rating, I have to hire/cast new actresses for this... Ones who have wrestling experience.

I don't differentiate between R and hard R - if I do R-rated, I hire adult actresses. At that point, there's no difference to me. It's really just about what agreement we want to have across the board with the talent.
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Out of curiosity Logan, would you consider the moves below as PG-13 or R-rated (for your answer, imagine there's no pantyhose for the 2nd picture) ?

I ask this because the classification is not the same from country to country. In France from example, when there's no nude, the movie is what you would called in America G-rated or PG-12 (not 13); when there's nude but no explicit sex, that's a NC-16 and when there's explicit sex, that's NC-18 (or X-rated).
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Domi666 wrote:Out of curiosity Logan, would you consider the moves below as PG-13 or R-rated (for your answer, imagine there's no pantyhose for the 2nd picture) ?

I ask this because the classification is not the same from country to country. In France from example, when there's no nude, the movie is what you would called in America G-rated or PG-12 (not 13); when there's nude but no explicit sex, that's a NC-16 and when there's explicit sex, that's NC-18 (or X-rated).
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I would not ask my mainstream/PG-13 to do those moves. They are too close to the grey area that constitutes even suggestive adult/mature content. Any time you are directly referencing the genital areas, consider it R-rated as a producer for me.

I am a very clear and upfront producer when I comes to communication with my cast and crew. There is a 100% clear and direct communication with what I expect from my talent as well as how I intend to shoot and market the films. Every actor knows what's going on which is why I have such longevity with my actresses.

Obviously I think we both know pantyhose has nothing to do with the rating ;)
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HeroineLegends wrote: Obviously I think we both know pantyhose has nothing to do with the rating ;)
Yes, that's true lol :D
And to be honest, contrary to what one may think, I'm not anti-pantyhose, lol. There is only one type of attire under which I hate pantyhose (and obviously, I think you know which type of attire i'm referring to, lol). A pantyhose under a full bottom or a skirt has never been a problem for me :laugh:
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HeroineLegends wrote: Obviously I think we both know pantyhose has nothing to do with the rating ;)
Yes, that's true lol :D
And to be honest, contrary to what one may think, I'm not anti-pantyhose, lol. There is only one type of attire under which I hate pantyhose (and obviously, I think you know which type of attire i'm referring to, lol). A pantyhose under a full bottom or a skirt has never been a problem for me :laugh:

Oh trust me, I know lol we are trying to get more of the style you like. But our existing actresses aren't where I'll find that ;)

On my R rated offerings, we will have that and some newcomers to the PG side eventually. The new girls are all supposed to be open to that outfit style-- if they actually read their audition notices. You know... Actresses... ;)
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HeroineLegends wrote:
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HeroineLegends wrote: Obviously I think we both know pantyhose has nothing to do with the rating ;)
Yes, that's true lol :D
And to be honest, contrary to what one may think, I'm not anti-pantyhose, lol. There is only one type of attire under which I hate pantyhose (and obviously, I think you know which type of attire i'm referring to, lol). A pantyhose under a full bottom or a skirt has never been a problem for me :laugh:

Oh trust me, I know lol we are trying to get more of the style you like. But our existing actresses aren't where I'll find that ;)

On my R rated offerings, we will have that and some newcomers to the PG side eventually. The new girls are all supposed to be open to that outfit style-- if they actually read their audition notices. You know... Actresses... ;)
Just to add I am not anti pantyhose either, sure I prefer bare legs but only if they are good enough to be bare and my favourite character and actress Kelly as LW wears hose.

Now about Allura aka Bridget...I love her in her outfit and think the rear is pretty much a thong anyway...soooo....if Bridget is happy enough in her Allura guise would other actress wear the same style costume?
I was thinking an Allura rear cut costume but with just higher cut thigh , not too close to the rear but just where it is "safe" for want of a better word, would that be a lovelt sight and suitable for te girls?
I really don't know how Tiffany managed to hold her composure until t ecamera stopped in her recent release, hot yes but dman she is not only gorgeous but tough too.
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Personally I love the idea of a wrestling site, I rather have it on the PG-13 area and I love the WWE concept. To make it a big deal, like a big show with heroines and a developing a storyline.

The best example for it I can think of is Ring Divas, for developing storylines that is, they make the PPDs follow a storyline and some times even have promos leading to big matches.

Now the issue here, if you want good female wrestlers is that maybe they won't be willing to be exclusive if that is what you are looking for, most wrestlers like to be all over the place to make a name for themselves.
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I womder if the ring purchase went ahead?
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rayman wrote:I womder if the ring purchase went ahead?
I just got back the quote from the manufacturer since I wanted a few options customized. A few adjustments and the order goes in ;)
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rayman wrote:I womder if the ring purchase went ahead?
I just got back the quote from the manufacturer since I wanted a few options customized. A few adjustments and the order goes in ;)
Woo Hoo!
Thankyou Logan I can wait to see what added features you have dremed up this is a very exciting project for us fight fans.
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rayman wrote:I womder if the ring purchase went ahead?
I just got back the quote from the manufacturer since I wanted a few options customized. A few adjustments and the order goes in ;)
Woo Hoo!
Thankyou Logan I can wait to see what added features you have dremed up this is a very exciting project for us fight fans.
My post-production manager and I are trying to come up with fun ideas to make that enjoyable to watch - we definitely want to make sure we keep a strong superheroine influence in this - we know it will be all-female... it should be a fun little venture :)
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I'm purchasing a 16' x 16' professional ring for a new wrestling series. Technically, I can do a PG-13 AND R-rated site - one under each company, but I'd like to see what the viewers' thoughts are. Do you prefer PG-13 wrestling style (no sexual content, costumes stay on) or R (nudity with sexual content) in your wrestling films. Obviously, if you're not a wrestling fan, this won't apply to you much lol

Both options will feature Superheroines wrestling, not just girls wrestling. - which brings up another question - all-female, or co-ed?
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Logan, if I may suggest an idea that won't center around wrestling but involves a ring, I have the following video suggestion:

Have a heroine (I would suggest using Tiffany in her role as Shadow, or better yet Ms. Marvel in her black unisuit) volunteer to participate in a charity wrestling competition. In the competition, have the heroine plan on allowing her opponent to hold his/her own for a bit (WWE-style) before dominating her completely. The match would actually be part of a more devious plan: a villain has something that weakens the heroine, which he brings out midway through the match. The heroine begins to weaken, but she is absolutely against revealing herself actually becoming weak. Her plan was just to feign weakness to increase the suspense, but nothing serious.
The match becomes one-sided, with the heroine getting seriously beaten and thrown around. She is then humiliated as her opponent takes many liberties with her (i.e. fondling, pulling back parts of her costume, wedgies, etc.). Then the villain enters the ring and reveals his plan. The heroine is then further humiliated on pay-per-view…to whatever extent the model is willing to go.
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I voted for "Either one works for me" because I am in between what I like. I am not a fan of nude wrestling and if you are going to have superheroines wrestle then it would make sense to have them wrestle in their costumes. I do like the idea of the winner getting to have their way with the loser.

My idea would be that to win on superheroine must tear her costume off, pin her down and kiss her on the lips.

All females.
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Being R rated is going to limit the talent you can hire to pull this off.

I don't need to see a naked superheroine. For me, the erotic part is watching the unbeatable heroine get beaten.
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I would watch faked sex. I'm not into seeing actual penetration. Kind of ruins it since the quality of girl goes down if you expect them to have actual sex. I'd rather see gratuitous breast mashing than sex.
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For me... it's R but without the simulated sex. What I like to see, as I've probably repeated in various other posts, is the villainess (usually larger and scarier) beating down on the heroine with blood and partial nudity. The sex part just...kills it for me. It's anti-climactic because for me the point is destruction, hard and fast paced action. The sex for me softens the issue, removes the element of pain. There are plenty of sites that can offer sexual dominance in a fight, including Alex Bettinger for example.

I think if you want to have a ring, then let them fight in it. Don't turn it into soft porn.
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Mr. X wrote:I would watch faked sex. I'm not into seeing actual penetration. Kind of ruins it since the quality of girl goes down if you expect them to have actual sex. I'd rather see gratuitous breast mashing than sex.
With or without sex, that content still requires adult actresses.
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I commented in length in the deep dark recesses of this forum LOL!

Prefer G/G wrestling and I like my superheroines to look super not naked.
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HeroineLegends wrote:
Mr. X wrote:I would watch faked sex. I'm not into seeing actual penetration. Kind of ruins it since the quality of girl goes down if you expect them to have actual sex. I'd rather see gratuitous breast mashing than sex.
With or without sex, that content still requires adult actresses.

Not really. Just consenting actresses. We did faked sex with regular models and fetish models all the time. Just depends on what the girl is willing to do. Remember YOU'RE the one asking if people want R rated. If you're trying to talk yourself out of it that's your business but a fake sex scene does not require adult porn stars, not in the slightest.
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Mr. X wrote:
HeroineLegends wrote:
Mr. X wrote:I would watch faked sex. I'm not into seeing actual penetration. Kind of ruins it since the quality of girl goes down if you expect them to have actual sex. I'd rather see gratuitous breast mashing than sex.
With or without sex, that content still requires adult actresses.

Not really. Just consenting actresses. We did faked sex with regular models and fetish models all the time. Just depends on what the girl is willing to do. Remember YOU'RE the one asking if people want R rated. If you're trying to talk yourself out of it that's your business but a fake sex scene does not require adult porn stars, not in the slightest.
In the mainstream industry, a fetish actress IS an adult actress. She's not doing hardcore, but she is doing content outside of the realm of a mainstream actress. That's what makes what you suggested "R"... I'm not talking myself out if anything but I am being realistic about the talent that would need to be used to achieve what was requested. No mainstream hollywood actress would do blatantly fetishy material in fear of tarnishing their reputation in the mainstream acting world.
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WOW-Girl wrote:Why we can't have both ? Keep most of the costumes and masks on and only expose the breasts, asses and private parts. I hate when the characters get completely naked through the movie, if i want to see a regular porn I would not bother about the costumes, plots and such.

And you should not bother about ratings either, you are doing porn no matter if softcore or hardcore, let the adults pay for whatever they like and do your best to keep us entertained.
That's not true at all - if we do wrestling with the costumes on and it's about the moves and the defeat, then that's not porn. It's considered mainstream due to the lack of included blatant sexuality.
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