Supergirl Season Four

[GeekyPornCritic]

I'll let this picture speak for me.

[infogeek247]

Looks like Red D is not totally in board.

[ksire_99]

Looks like she is a child that has been scolded, and Daddy is impatiently waiting for her to supplicate.


PS: I want to pull her hair.

[infogeek247]

Right.

[Night_Lantern]

I guess you guys wanna see Supergirl dancing too ;-)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BvPTxwOnSwZ ... hare_sheet

I friggin love Mel. Only she would do this in costume. And those hair whips- wowza

[ksire_99]

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[ksire_99]

I am fairly sure this a badly timed post, with Lex coming too the show.

BUT (RANT ON!)

Does, anyone else feel like conquering Supergirl is not that big of a deal?

The show has depowered her enough that she can be packaged in plastic packaging, humans have better reflexes, and her mental abilities are scoffed at.

Of course the up side is Mel!

and that is why I hope for another two years. But don't expect it.

Damn the writers!!!

[Danorian]

I am fairly sure this a badly timed post, with Lex coming too the show.

BUT (RANT ON!)

Does, anyone else feel like conquering Supergirl is not that big of a deal?

The show has depowered her enough that she can be packaged in plastic packaging, humans have better reflexes, and her mental abilities are scoffed at.

Of course the up side is Mel!

and that is why I hope for another two years. But don't expect it.

Damn the writers!!!

Aw c'mon! Don't you like her getting EASILY beaten up by an invisible monster that's supposedly invisible even to super-vision(never mind in the old days she could even see radio waves if necessary), or being disabled by a space snake monster, which could be battered into submission by a human(sorta) wielding a lead pipe?(Note sarcasm)

The packaging ep? Where was her heat vision, or flexing her super-strength? They just pointed out how heavy the key to the Fortress of Solitude was 2 eps ago, and she can't bust out of Terran plastics?
Or for intellect. She's a product of a Kryptonian education,being a future member of the Science class of Krypton at the age of 14 when sent away. A future scientist for a planet renowned for it's super-science? Must be pretty smart, unlike her cousin that received a Kansas education(sorry any of our Kansas friends). Honestly, Kara could have fixed Jimmy easily, using the Fortress' resources, rather than relying on Lena's black K cure-all.

Spoiler

When I saw Jimmy's attacker turn on his signal watch, I knew it was a set-up. When I saw Lex in a wheelchair, I knew he would be walking later, and going free.
I was telling friends WEEKS ago, when the Russians decided to call in an expert to help Red Kara, that they were going to get Lex, and looking at the promos, that's what we're getting.
And, at the start of this week's ep, who isn't expecting a green K weapon, using Lena's kryptonite formula that Lex obviously, and easily, stole!

Spoiler

Sorry if the spoiler function screws up. First time trying it.

My 2 cents.

[infogeek247]

SG is not expecting Lex to have weapons as she does not know about Eve and Otis, so I expect her not to do well at their first meeting. She will be e ready at the next.

[GeekyPornCritic]

I enjoyed this episode. I like what they are doing this season to explain the story's events like they did in Agent Liberty's background episode. These types of episodes remove questions for the current events. We understand characters and their motives a lot better. I wished more shows used this formula. It is working for Supergirl.

Lex's speech during his trial reminded me of Maxwell Lord. Everything about this season screams Maxwell Lord. Maxwell was not crazy like Lex or extreme like Liberty. Maxwell was more in the middle of having rules/laws in place and weapons ready just in case aliens like Supergirl go out of control.

Melissa's performance as the Red Daughter was on point for the most part. Her acting was top notch. However, her acting was really bad in the scene with Red Daughter crying of the kid's fake death. She did not sell that cry well at all.......

The Bad!

This episode was not perfect. Where was Superman during Lex Luthor's trial? He is a key witness to the crimes. James Olson states Lex Luthor wanted to use Superman and Superman rejected his offer, thus Lex committed many crimes such as assault, kidnapping, and murder. Superman should have been a witness to testify in court.

Supergirl's and Lex's fight was mediocre. I wanted more from their fight.

Lex has superpowers. Does James have superpowers? We need an explanation. Why is Lex still wearing his battle suit when he has superpowers?

[infogeek247]

Still think RD will eventually turn on Lex despite following him now.

[GeekyPornCritic]

Still think RD will eventually turn on Lex despite following him now.

I think Lex is going to kill her to claim the glory. Let me explain this.

Despite being an alien as well, the people love Supergirl even some people who agree with Agent Liberty. Supergirl looks like one of them. J'onn and James in season one tried explaining why people adore her. Supergirl still doesn't get it sometimes.

The best way to change the public's reception on Supergirl is to kill an evil clone. The public will fear this Russian Red Daughter. They will see the damage that she will do. She looks just like Supergirl and is just as deadly. Agent Liberty and Lex may use the Red Daughter's threat to propaganda to turn the public against Supergirl.

[Visitor]

Lex manipulates everyone. This is the best writing of the whole series from the first episode.

Otis found his American puppets in Lockwood and the Sons of Liberty.
Lena got tricked by Miss Tessmacher and Lex's intentionally inflicted cancer.
Kaznia is being used as an enemy of the US through their general.
Finally Red Daughter is going to be used next week to discredit Supergirl and destroy her.

"Why is Lex still wearing his battle suit when he has superpowers?"

Lex was holding his powers in reserve to lull Supergirl into a trap. Waiting until the right moment when it would have a psychological effect.

[batgirl1969]

I still LOVE Melissa as SG! she is the perfect SG

[DrDominator9]

I still LOVE Melissa as SG! she is the perfect SG

She's also the perfect Red Daughter. She was very convincing as her Russian clone. Excellent facial control to appear different in her RD character.

My only issue was how RD could know Kara's mannerisms to pull off her imposter act. Then again, in a world where a pair of glasses serves as a disguise, I guess one gives them a pass.

Two terrific shows in a row.

[infogeek247]

True.
I am thinking that the red daughter has learned much from Lex. That at the end of the show is she told him exactly what he wanted to hear. She is still confused about Kara and Alex.

[batgirl1969]

I can't wait for them to fight each other, I hope Kara gets a dose of Kryptonite to weaken her just enough for some great submission holds & beatdowns by RD. Melissa's expressions are perfect, she really can act and I am so glad we got her as SG even if the show doesn't live on we at least have her and she has set the bar high for all others

[infogeek247]

The first fight will not go Kara's way if she does not know RD exists. She will be too surprised by the woman who wants to destroy her. Kara fights to subdue not kill.

If she is aware of RD, it may be different.

If K is used it will affect RD as well.

[Visitor]

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/sup ... 30564.html

Recap of last night's episode that highlights the twists and turns. One of the best at the end was if you are going to jail, then pick Lex's when he's there because the food is better.

[GeekyPornCritic]

As good as this Red Daughter saga is, this is the third evil version of Supergirl in four seasons. Each evil Supergirl has an unique story although Red Daughter and Lex are very similar to Maxwell and Bizzaro. I hope this is the last evil Supergirl. This idea has been run into the ground. I am surprised no one has complained about this. Maybe people like the idea of an Evil Supergirl for every season. I am beginning to find the idea overdone like burnt chicken.

[DrDominator9]

As good as this Red Daughter saga is, this is the third evil version of Supergirl in four seasons. Each evil Supergirl has an unique story although Red Daughter and Lex are very similar to Maxwell and Bizzaro. I hope this is the last evil Supergirl. This idea has been run into the ground. I am surprised no one has complained about this. Maybe people like the idea of an Evil Supergirl for every season. I am beginning to find the idea overdone like burnt chicken.

I have to agree with you somewhat, GPC. This is the very last potato chip I'll eat then I'll close the bag. Well, one more. That's the last one. Where's that bag clip? I'll just have one more since I can't find the clip. There! Done. Why are you bringing out more dip? Aah, the hell with it, hand me that bowl. Yumm!

[Visitor]

But evil Supergirl is so much more fun. No being lazy, decadent, whiny, and brooding about her lack of a love life. Evil Supergirl has a purpose and wants to get on with it. Then she can replace Kara and enjoy the good life in that fancy apartment with all the fresh food.

[infogeek247]

You know that is not going to happen. Lex has plans for her. Like the clip for the next show. But I see her wanting what Kara has.. and turning from Lex, and more towards Kara and the real Alex.

[Imagineer]

Supergirl is a trainwreck -- but I keep coming back, because they keep running more trains down the same line into the same canyon. Superman IV's Lenny is Supergirl's Lex? The Famous Teddy Z went full supervillain? That's so wrong, but I have to check it out for at least a minute.

Well, that minute is up. And the Red Daughter minute expired right after it. I'm quitting again. But I know better than to delete the season from my DVR because in a few weeks I'm going to be bored enough, and I'll happen on some little piece of Supergirl candy that makes me curious enough. For a minute.

Waiting for the Lex Luthor / Lena Luthor Presidential ticket.

Coming up in the SHIP version of this series, evil Supergirl will take the place of good Supergirl so convincingly that no one will believe Kara. Lena will use a depowering formula on her, Lex will turn Alex evil, and Alex will work out her many issues on Kara in a soundproof basement.


Melissa Benoist is still a delight. When DCCW runs out of gas, I expect to see her and Grant Gustin in a Hart to Hart remake.

[infogeek247]

I think you are wrong about the show, but everyone has their likes and dislikes.

I disagree that no one would recognize RD as Kara, or SG.

Lena has yet top make a de-powering, but that could happen, She would use it on Lex. first.

Yes, Melissa is incredible. And I cannot wait for the next show.

[Maskripper]

Spoiler

How did Lex find out about Supergirl's secret identity? It wasn't explained in the episode....... Or is the fact that he is a genius the explanation?
Now at least he and RD know about Supergirl=Kara .....big problem!
They could use that in various sinister ways.....

And yeah, it was another really good episode! And looking forward to the next one!

Two Supergirls fighting each other......

[Imagineer]

I think you are wrong about the show, but everyone has their likes and dislikes.

Don't mind me, I'm cranky. If there was nothing good about it I wouldn't watch at all. And I hope the DCCW shows continue -- they're good for what they are.

[GeekyPornCritic]

Supergirl is public enemy number one!

[Danorian]

I have to ask-WHY DIDN'T LEX FINISH THE JOB?!!!
He defeats Kara, yet does nothing to her? No dragging her away to Kasnia? No death traps? No disabling, such as breaking an arm or leg?
Lex is supposed to be so smart, and should know from experience with Superman that you don't give a kryptonian a chance to recover, or they will find a way to defeat you!
Just shoddy writing IMHO.

My 2 cents.

[GeekyPornCritic]

I have to ask-WHY DIDN'T LEX FINISH THE JOB?!!!
He defeats Kara, yet does nothing to her? No dragging her away to Kasnia? No death traps? No disabling, such as breaking an arm or leg?
Lex is supposed to be so smart, and should know from experience with Superman that you don't give a kryptonian a chance to recover, or they will find a way to defeat you!
Just shoddy writing IMHO.

My 2 cents.

He did not kill her because he is setting himself up to be a hero of humanity and is taking advantage of the Human First Movement. Red Daughter will start killing people as Supergirl to give Supergirl a bad image. Then, Lex will claim the glory after defeating Supergirl.

[infogeek247]

He will try to defeat SG.And will fail. And control the RD. Lex also could not risk not getting back to the RD

If the planet did not stop her or delay her, he may not have gotten back

[Maskripper]

How did Lex find out about Supergirl's secret identity? It wasn't explained in the episode.......

Ok, this time without the spoilers function.
Can anyone explain that? Would really like to know!

[ksire_99]

I am hoping for SG and RD are 'reunited' and SG's powers made 'whole'. (like in the SM movie) I would think Lena will provide the tech to do this.


SG will then face Lex fully powered. The fight ends with the apparent 'accidental' death of Lex. Something like the Black K poisoning him as he overtaxes his body/powers during his battle with a true Super Girl. (Of course his death is only temporary as a RL (Red Luthor) is formed.)

The best part of this theory (If not having a more powerful SG is not the best) is this then paves the way for Lena to take her role as a true Luthor.

K

[infogeek247]

I don't think Kara will want to be rejoined if that is even possible. Kara will see RD as a "sister" an independent person. Different from her, so she would be against removing her.

RL?

Lena: I think she will never go Full Luthor. She has seen what her superserum has done and what her brother has done and will do. Plus, what he did to her. Kara and the others will keep her from doing that. But I do see her as going into darker places.

[DrDominator9]

I have a theory that actually Lex is successful in his plan at saving the city/country from Red Daughter in some way, the President is shown to be unfit for office or killed and next season we get President Lex like the run that appeared in DC Comics.

[infogeek247]

Interesting, but doubtful. He would go after SG and SM almost immediately, and that would turn the story. He would also start a full campaign agasint all aliens. And he has too much baggage with the "killing millions of people."

SG has enough problems being Public Enemy.


But you are right in the fact that Lex will totally throw RD under the bus if she becomes too independent or the killing serves a purpose.
Lex works better as a threat, working in the background.

[ksire_99]

I have a theory that actually Lex is successful in his plan at saving the city/country from Red Daughter in some way, the President is shown to be unfit for office or killed and next season we get President Lex like the run that appeared in DC Comics.

The way the writers love to interject politics into the show, I hope they don't make him President for that reason alone.

On how Lex could become the President? Being a convicted felon he isn't eligible. (easily solved by getting a pardon or using the false identity imagery tech to run for president or VP *then kill the President* there are others but Lex as President is giving the greatest threat to SM and SG basically unlimited resources. Too easy.

[shevek]

I liked the way Krasnaya Doch' (RD) was struggling against Lex's control - Melissa played this double identity very well. Can't wait for this conflict to take it up a notch in America.

Since I can read Russian, I enjoyed seeing all the signs and devices ('Dangerous Ultraviolent Radiation' on the chamber that gave Lex his cancer...the knobs on the transfusion machine that said 'slower' and 'faster', etc).

But there's one thing that's perplexing that I think they didn't plan out too well. In the comics, Kasnia/Kaznia is generally described as an Eastern European/Balkan nation with a hankering for the Soviet ways, and they use the Cyrillic alphabet, so that would make one think of either Serbia, Bulgaria, Transnistria (the exclave between Moldova and Russia) or Belarus.

But the package that Krasnaya Doch' receives has an address that clearly says 'Dyenoshchna' (some kind of imaginary city name), then Kasnia in English, and then 'Rossiya' (Russia) in Cyrillic. That mailing address puts Kasnia *inside* of Russia, as if it's some kind of semi-autonomous republic within Russia that wants to bring back the Soviet glory days. So which is it: is Kasnia an independent nation, or actually part of Russia? Methink it's the latter, as far as the Supergirl series goes.

Also, why the half-hearted logo on the costume of Krasnaya Doch'? If there's going to be a hammer, why not also use the sickle? Did they not want to somehow evoke the actual spectre of Communism? (an ideology that killed more people in human history than any other). Just imho, it seems like a little bit of a copout, especially the comics analogue (Red Son Superman) clearly had a hammer and sickle emblem on his chest.

[ricky1989]

Can’t wait for next episode

[infogeek247]

I know, 2 weeks after Sunday. Boo

[Maskripper]

Ok, I'm curious enough to try it a 3rd time...maybe the answer is too obvious, maybe I missed something, but I still wanna know:

How did Lex find out about Supergirl's secret identity? It wasn't explained in the episode.......

[DrDominator9]

There was no explanation given in the show as to how Lex discovered Supergirl's secret identity. Maybe he wasn't fooled by Kara's glasses and mousey behavior?

[infogeek247]

Lillian could have told him as well.

[DrDominator9]

Lillian could have told him as well.

Are you sure that Lillian knows SG is Kara Danvers? I don't recall that from the show.

[infogeek247]

Yes, I believe she knows. There was one episode where she do powered Supergirl. She just will not tell Lena. Lex could have just figured it out.

[GeekyPornCritic]

The second half of season four is a huge improvement from the first half. Tonight was another good episode. Supergirl has betrayed the American people. She is public enemy number one. I think Agent Liberty will be returning to the battlefield. He looks ready for a fight.

I think James is unaware he has superpowers. He is very sensitive to sound. I think his reactions to those gun shots were because of his super hearing and not a fear of being shot. It would not make sense for The Guardian to be fear gun shots.

[Visitor]

Brains, beauty, and brawn, well Supergirl's got the last two of the three. She's really proving the dumb blonde stereotype. Once again she gets tricked just when she thinks she smart, but at least she got to wear a version of Lex's suit.

If the season had started this way I would have watched it more. Supergirl finally is facing a real villain, her cousin's number one enemy and he's manipulating her perfectly.

[infogeek247]

They are still playing Lex's game. They will change that soon. She is not stupid. She sometimes acts without thinking, and is not as devious as Lex is.

She was smart enough to put aside her difference with Lena and Alex.

[Maskripper]

There was no explanation given in the show as to how Lex discovered Supergirl's secret identity. Maybe he wasn't fooled by Kara's glasses and mousey behavior?

Ah, god, I thought I missed something.
In that case, I guess there was a sinister way how he found out about it, which hopefully will be revealed soon.
But hopefully it won't be that he is the only one who "wasn't fooled by Kara's glasses and mousey behavior".... I would hate that explanation. If some of her closest friends can't figure that out....he shouldn't too.
After all ...these glasses and a different hairstyle are a brilliant "disguise" ;-)

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The latest episode was very good (again), I really like Lex, Miss Tessmacher and an "evil" supergirl as her enemies.
Now Supergirl has to find her evil twin and proof to the world that they are two of them.
Should be fun



Damn, three weeks to wait....

[DrDominator9]

Another good episode with a decent script and a nifty extended fight sequence between Supergirl and Otis Graves who has been "recalibrated" as Metallo. Plus they've managed to make James Olsen interesting.

Sadly though it feels like Melissa won't be wearing the SG costume much in the next episode since she's trying to keep a low profile being Public Enemy # 1 now. I guess that's why we got an episode chock full of her in the red and blue... to tide us over for a while.