aka Suicide Squad 2
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One complaint about the DC universe was they kept replacing the executives at the top so frequently that there was no consistency when they make a decent movie with future ones. So even if this works by the time the next ones are released in a few years they may be reboots to fit the "(tunnel) vision" of the next producer.
The original was "Suicide Squad"
Slightly reboot/partial sequel. Because the first one was dogshit but they want as much Margot Robbie in the continuity as possible because she's carrying the DCEU right now.
I have zero problem with an explicit Harley/Ivy relationship because when done correctly it is one of the hottest comic book pairings imaginable. What Ivy could do with some well-placed vines!
There's not going to be another Birds of Prey movie. It lost money.
Not true, in point of fact. Although it was undoubtedly a disappointment, it made back more than its production budget, and its overall reception was also complicated by the early stages of the COVID pandemic. That was actually the very last movie I saw in a theatre before the pandemic fully hit.
All that article in Forbes says is that it passed the $200 million mark. It made more than its "production" budget, but it did not BREAK EVEN because it did not cover its additional **promotional* budget. And there will not be another Birds of Prey film - mark my words. Margot Robbie will continue to play the Harley character in other movies instead - we can hope and pray that Gotham City Sirens will take place since that would be the sexiest group of characters a DC movie can put on the screen.NotUv2 wrote: ↑2 years agoNot true, in point of fact. Although it was undoubtedly a disappointment, it made back more than its production budget, and its overall reception was also complicated by the early stages of the COVID pandemic. That was actually the very last movie I saw in a theatre before the pandemic fully hit.
Perhaps because you can see the movie first there (normally).
The Forbes piece does in fact account for this if you actually read the whole thing.
Not something I'm inclined to doubt them on. Birds of Prey very likely broke even, at the least, in the big picture. That said:Forbes wrote:The R-rated DC Films flick has earned 2.43x its $82 million budget. It’ll eventually break even when it comes to early VOD this Tuesday.
Whatever the ultimate breakdown of the box office, all the current news indicates you're right about this. It's a pity.And there will not be another Birds of Prey film - mark my words.
That's a nice thought, though.Margot Robbie will continue to play the Harley character in other movies instead - we can hope and pray that Gotham City Sirens will take place since that would be the sexiest group of characters a DC movie can put on the screen.
The MCU is a staggering achievement of administration and infrastructure in filmmaking. I think we take it for granted given how long it's been around, but the sheer number of movie projects it has coordinated, the way it's been able to keep them all within a fair range of quality even if most of them are never going to be Essential Cinema, and the breadth of time over which that's happened has never before been attempted in the history of film that I know of. It's certainly never been duplicated, and is clearly not easy to duplicate. There's a pretty profitable documentary about the moviemaking process waiting to made there, because that is a genuine story, it's a breakthrough in filmmaking much like Industrial Light and Magic was.Dogfish wrote: ↑2 years agoIt's staggering how poorly managed the whole thing has been though. I mean when you look at how the MCU has dozens of characters cast, established, able to pop up across the universe, it's very efficient and it's pretty great. But it's not the work of movie geniuses, hell a lot of MCU movies are pretty average. WB/DC not even being able to establish consistency even down to an individual character level is pure incompetence.
Sorry to nitpick here, but the Forbes articles predicted that it *will* break even with VOD. I'm thinking that the break-even did NOT happen, because there would have been another article in Forbes eventually crowing about how it finally broke even...right?NotUv2 wrote: ↑2 years agoNot something I'm inclined to doubt them on. Birds of Prey very likely broke even, at the least, in the big picture. That said:Forbes wrote:The R-rated DC Films flick has earned 2.43x its $82 million budget. It’ll eventually break even when it comes to early VOD this Tuesday.
Uh... why? Forbes doesn't have any particular skin in "crowing" about anything, it's not some geek property persisting on rage- or triumph-clicks. That's one of the reasons I'm more inclined to trust them as a reporting outlet for these kinds of things: geek properties trying to propel some narrative or other are the ones generally not to be trusted, I'm certainly never willing to trust a "they're in the tank for the SJWs" narrative about an outlet like Forbes.
I expect this part is closer to the truth. I am a bit surprised that WB woudln't have taken the pandemic into account... but then, maybe there were other creative considerations, too. Like, none of the other BOP stars came out as strongly as Harley did in that movie, it was very much the Margot Robbie Show, and Robbie herself appears to have been frank that Harley works better as a supporting character than as a main protagonist.In essence, the movie has to deal with the *perception* that it was a flop, simply because it did not do remotely as well as Warner Brothers expected it to.
She's like some kind of super-ninja gymnast gun-bunny who is also a renown doctor of psychiatry. Once rid of Joker (who cramped her style a lot) she's easily one of the most capable Gotham universe characters.