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Heroines defeated by regular thugs/weaker opponents

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:45 am
by jack7onjack
I've been on a kick with watching heroines struggle and lose to regular thugs and men without powers. Does anyone know any good videos or comics that follow this trend?

Re: Heroines defeated by regular thugs/weaker opponents

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:59 am
by Mr. X
That seems to describe the vast majority of the fetish community videos.

Re: Heroines defeated by regular thugs/weaker opponents

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:45 pm
by jack7onjack
Mr. X wrote:
2 years ago
That seems to describe the vast majority of the fetish community videos.
I've seen more producers use actual supervillains instead of normal thugs. Maybe i'm looking in the wrong places

Re: Heroines defeated by regular thugs/weaker opponents

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:14 pm
by Mr. X
jack7onjack wrote:
2 years ago
Mr. X wrote:
2 years ago
That seems to describe the vast majority of the fetish community videos.
I've seen more producers use actual supervillains instead of normal thugs. Maybe i'm looking in the wrong places
Hmm I've seen more pizza delivery guys as bad guys than super villains :blush:

Re: Heroines defeated by regular thugs/weaker opponents

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:31 pm
by jack7onjack
Mr. X wrote:
2 years ago
jack7onjack wrote:
2 years ago
Mr. X wrote:
2 years ago
That seems to describe the vast majority of the fetish community videos.
I've seen more producers use actual supervillains instead of normal thugs. Maybe i'm looking in the wrong places
Hmm I've seen more pizza delivery guys as bad guys than super villains :blush:
Oh! Maybe I should start looking where you looking. :)

Re: Heroines defeated by regular thugs/weaker opponents

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:41 pm
by Dazzle1
I agree with Mr. X.

Most of them wear the ski masks and are out of shape

Re: Heroines defeated by regular thugs/weaker opponents

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:04 pm
by crouchingtiger1950
Any video where the villian is a weak nothing and is able to take and over power Supergirl with no use of Kryptonite, is a waste of time and the creator should have just made the porn without the superheroine outfits. After all all they wanted to do is create a porn flick, correct?

Re: Heroines defeated by regular thugs/weaker opponents

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:31 pm
by Mr. X
You could check out giga freak stuff. They usually have lackeys over power a heroine.

Re: Heroines defeated by regular thugs/weaker opponents

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:32 pm
by bushwackerbob
jack7onjack wrote:
2 years ago
I've been on a kick with watching heroines struggle and lose to regular thugs and men without powers. Does anyone know any good videos or comics that follow this trend?
I enjoy those types of SHIP films as well. I find that it adds to the humiliation of these superheroines that mere mortals are able to overcome these ultra powered heroines, that a mere mortal without any kind of super powers could outwit and defeat a high and mighty superheroine. I think it adds to the fantasy of some guys who imagine they are the super villain as they overpower the heroine. A regular guy villain adds a degree of realism to that fantasy in my view.

Re: Heroines defeated by regular thugs/weaker opponents

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:53 pm
by jack7onjack
bushwackerbob wrote:
2 years ago
jack7onjack wrote:
2 years ago
I've been on a kick with watching heroines struggle and lose to regular thugs and men without powers. Does anyone know any good videos or comics that follow this trend?
I enjoy those types of SHIP films as well. I find that it adds to the humiliation of these superheroines that mere mortals are able to overcome these ultra powered heroines, that a mere mortal without any kind of super powers could outwit and defeat a high and mighty superheroine. I think it adds to the fantasy of some guys who imagine they are the super villain as they overpower the heroine. A regular guy villain adds a degree of realism to that fantasy in my view.
Exactly! Do you know some good sites or artists who specialize in this?

Re: Heroines defeated by regular thugs/weaker opponents

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:30 pm
by brdiy
I like this, too. But the set-up could make or break it for me. E.g. having every thug carry around kryptonite as if it can be purchased at the 7-11 is lazy while having an ordinary Joe come upon one by accident can be a promising start.

Re: Heroines defeated by regular thugs/weaker opponents

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:28 am
by Shakeshift
Dazzle1 wrote:
2 years ago
I agree with Mr. X.

Most of them wear the ski masks and are out of shape
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Hey, when you guys start ponying up money to hire extras, then we'll bring in beefcakes from the gym. Until then, you get what you paid for which is..... absolutely nothing. Zero money = Pizza Delivery Guys. This is no free charity for horny perverts. Pay for what you want to see, or pipe down.

Re: Heroines defeated by regular thugs/weaker opponents

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:43 am
by Dazzle1
Shakeshift wrote:
2 years ago
Dazzle1 wrote:
2 years ago
I agree with Mr. X.

Most of them wear the ski masks and are out of shape
****************************

Hey, when you guys start ponying up money to hire extras, then we'll bring in beefcakes from the gym. Until then, you get what you paid for which is..... absolutely nothing. Zero money = Pizza Delivery Guys. This is no free charity for horny perverts. Pay for what you want to see, or pipe down.
This is a forum, we are making comments. not insulting anyone

Re: Heroines defeated by regular thugs/weaker opponents

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:09 am
by Deceiver
Shakeshift wrote:
2 years ago
This is no free charity for horny perverts.
Haha! Nice line.

I don't know why viewers would care too much about the shape of the villain, if he is only an ordinary man. I should imagine all you want from him is to act convincing. It's surely all about the heroine and the actress playing her...

Re: Heroines defeated by regular thugs/weaker opponents

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:12 am
by Deceiver
jack7onjack wrote:
2 years ago
I've been on a kick with watching heroines struggle and lose to regular thugs and men without powers. Does anyone know any good videos or comics that follow this trend?
Mr X, who replied to you first, has several free comics of that nature.

Re: Heroines defeated by regular thugs/weaker opponents

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:36 pm
by bushwackerbob
Shakeshift wrote:
2 years ago
Dazzle1 wrote:
2 years ago
I agree with Mr. X.

Most of them wear the ski masks and are out of shape
****************************

Hey, when you guys start ponying up money to hire extras, then we'll bring in beefcakes from the gym. Until then, you get what you paid for which is..... absolutely nothing. Zero money = Pizza Delivery Guys. This is no free charity for horny perverts. Pay for what you want to see, or pipe down.
I obviously think a producer has the right and duty to make decisions and allocate resources for his films as he sees fit and will support him financially, but I also think that you can't blame folks like me that pay for films that I want to see to want as much quality in those films as possible, and that includes not wanting to see beer bellied pig sized villains in ski masks dominating superheroines. Paying customers have a right to want what we want in our films, I pay for what I want and I will not pipe down.

Re: Heroines defeated by regular thugs/weaker opponents

Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:05 am
by awsman
I'll admit nearly all of my customs have non-powered thugs. I prefer a darker and less campy tone, so more realistic villains work better. For that reason, the heroines I use tend to be non-powered as well, or have a power that's easily neutralized, i.e. Black Canary. Since the degradation/humiliation of the heroine is my primary interest in the genre, it adds to the shame of defeat for it to be to some ordinary dirtbag who's nothing special.

Re: Heroines defeated by regular thugs/weaker opponents

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:15 pm
by sugarcoater
Check out the Unenthusiastic Participation series by Rye if you're looking for an average guy taking down a superheroine.

Re: Heroines defeated by regular thugs/weaker opponents

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 3:08 pm
by bushwackerbob
sugarcoater wrote:
2 years ago
Check out the Unenthusiastic Participation series by Rye if you're looking for an average guy taking down a superheroine.
I just loved that Enthusiastic Participation series, including the most recent one with Alina Lopez playing Alpha Girl, best SHIP film of the year in my view. The only one of the bunch I was not crazy about was the one with Gigi Allens with the Joker as one of the villains. Seeing guys play that over the top Joker role turns me off at times, these dudes trying to be Jim Carrey, Heath Ledger, or Jared Leto wannabees instead of dutifully supporting the story.

Re: Heroines defeated by regular thugs/weaker opponents

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 3:15 pm
by Damselbinder
bushwackerbob wrote:
2 years ago
sugarcoater wrote:
2 years ago
Check out the Unenthusiastic Participation series by Rye if you're looking for an average guy taking down a superheroine.
I just loved that Enthusiastic Participation series, including the most recent one with Alina Lopez playing Alpha Girl, best SHIP film of the year in my view. The only one of the bunch I was not crazy about was the one with Gigi Allens with the Joker as one of the villains. Seeing guys play that over the top Joker role turns me off at times, these dudes trying to be Jim Carrey, Heath Ledger, or Jared Leto wannabees instead of dutifully supporting the story.
I don't think any living man wants to be Jared Leto.

Re: Heroines defeated by regular thugs/weaker opponents

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:55 pm
by LindaD
Mr. X wrote:
2 years ago
jack7onjack wrote:
2 years ago
Mr. X wrote:
2 years ago
That seems to describe the vast majority of the fetish community videos.
I've seen more producers use actual supervillains instead of normal thugs. Maybe i'm looking in the wrong places
Hmm I've seen more pizza delivery guys as bad guys than super villains :blush:
If pizza was with Ananas, than he is no doubt MASTER villain! :)

Re: Heroines defeated by regular thugs/weaker opponents

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:00 pm
by DonShip
LindaD wrote:
2 years ago
Mr. X wrote:
2 years ago
jack7onjack wrote:
2 years ago
Mr. X wrote:
2 years ago
That seems to describe the vast majority of the fetish community videos.
I've seen more producers use actual supervillains instead of normal thugs. Maybe i'm looking in the wrong places
Hmm I've seen more pizza delivery guys as bad guys than super villains :blush:
If pizza was with Ananas, than he is no doubt MASTER villain! :)
Pizza Guy on DeviantArt! Yes, he captures all of the lovely heroines.