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How many here are into Hypnosis peril, hypnotized superheroines, etc. Feel free to elaborate.

Sorry to cast the my vote as a fence-sitter. For me, it all depends on the execution. (Not that sort of execution, Bluestone fans.)

If hypnosis is itself presented as a peril for the first part of the video, then the subsequent loss of control becomes more satisfying in the latter part.

I'm not sure if any producer has done this, but I would quite like to hear a voiceover of the real heroine as she experiences being controlled by her new master/mistress. Like she's still active in a corner of her mind, but unable to do anything about the nefarious deeds she's now compelled to commit.

I like hypnosis and mind control in general though I find it's pretty limited in terms of use in Superheroine fiction. Either it's used to put the heroine to sleep, get them to reveal their identity or turn them into a mindless bodyguard/sex slave. Not that these things aren't fun, but I'd like to see more variety. Maybe a villain stacks increasing hypnotic penalties on a heroine every time she gets captured, compelling her to go out without key elements of her costume, making her think she's lost access to her powers or can only use them under imaginary conditions, installing new fetishes in her mind, etc. Little things that make her job harder/more humiliating, but aren't necessarily an instant loss.

I suggested an idea a while ago about a villain playing the long game with the hypnotized heroine. Basically, the villain knows that the heroine will be appearing as the guest speaker at a forthcoming public event. After the hypnosis, the villain sets the heroine free with no memory of being captured and hypnotized.

Little does she know that she will hear a keyword at the event which will compel her to perform a cum show while she's stood at the podium.

Dr. Psycho is a manipulator and manipulated Diana. Manipulation and hypnosis are very useful against powerful superheroines.

I enjoy hypnotized superheroines, but the one quibble I have with some of these films is sometimes the heroine is cross eyed, or they just look ahead, their eyes almost lifeless, almost as if they are zombies. A superheroine whose has crossed or bug eyes or looks straight ahead is not a sexy look in my view, it kills the hotness or sexiness aspect of the heroines for me.

A problem I have is the majority of heroines are easily hypnotized, no resistance to speak of.

Sort of the same as when a powerful heroine or hero is overpowered by a generic thug or a weaker person

IMO, hypnotism may as well be regular porn. The heroine has no idea what's happening to them; therefore, there's no element of fear or peril, just some villain getting their satisfaction over a robotic sub. And yes, how is a person crossing their eyes a dead giveaway of being hypnotized? Instant turn-off, just like tongues forcibly sticking out after being strangled.

I love hypno-kink, but find it to be an uneasy fit with superheroine peril. As others have said, far too often heroines put up little or no resistance at all to hypnotists or mind controllers, so you don't get any struggle, no weakening defiance, no realization that they're losing. I do think it's pretty thrilling to see a heroine compelled to confess their weaknesses or admit that they are helpless while under a trance, so there's that. With post-hypnotic suggestion you can also get heroines struggling against irresistible compulsions to act against their will, fighting under severe limitations and the like even though they're in their right minds. However, one of the things I like with my hypno-kink is an induction that lasts more than a few seconds and features some active resistance, and that's something not many heroine peril producers do well, or maybe aren't interested in doing, in my experience.
I definitely agree that the cross-eyed look is a mood-killer. I don't know where the association between crossed eyes and loss of control came from, but it does not work for me at all.

There's more to that Dr Psycho scene from Wonder Woman Earth One, including a scene where he manipulates her into allowing him to bind her wrists with the lasso and uses his control to hypnotize her. I actually commissioned a custom based on that scene from Next Global Crisis (under their "Action Cosplay" banner) a few years ago that turned out very well (IMO). I just sent Andrew the pages for that scene and he made it using the "Miracle Maiden" character (their version of WW) under the title "Trust or Treason". It's still one of my favorite videos.

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There's more to that Dr Psycho scene from Wonder Woman Earth One, including a scene where he manipulates her into allowing him to bind her wrists with the lasso and uses his control to hypnotize her. I actually commissioned a custom based on that scene from Next Global Crisis (under their "Action Cosplay" banner) a few years ago that turned out very well (IMO). I just sent Andrew the pages for that scene and he made it using the "Miracle Maiden" character (their version of WW) under the title "Trust or Treason". It's still one of my favorite videos.

The Magic Lasso is my favorite mind control device because unlike many other scenarios where the heroine goes brain dead, they can still be controlled having their faculties.

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Dr. Psycho is a manipulator and manipulated Diana. Manipulation and hypnosis are very useful against powerful superheroines.

Any chance at sharing the next page of this fantastic sequence? Thanks for sharing this one.

I'm a big fan of hypnosis peril, but I'm less into the mind control angle. More as a way to subdue a heroine and to force her to sleep and so on. And there does need to be some kind of struggle - if the villain can just snap their fingers and instantly hypnotise a heroine with zero effort that's no fun.

I like Hypnosis Peril when the Heroine resists strongly at the beginning.

I don’t like the cross-eyed thing.
I don’t like when a heroine is frozen physically. I like it when she is mentally overcome and then eventually gives in completely physically.

I’ve bought several Hypnotic World films through the years and have always been pleased.

I also liked when Virago would Hypnotize superheroines. She is and was sexy af.

It isn't the very next page, but here's the sequence where Psycho (or a character who's basically his equivalent in this story), uses her own idealism against her, convincing her to allow him to bind her wrists with her lasso.

Thank you for sharing the sequence! This reminds me of the sequence in an old Spiderman/Black Cat six-issue series. There's the implication of something happening but nothing is confirmed (from what I recall; I could be wrong as it has been a number of years since I last read the series).
Does anything happen with Wonder Woman? What does Leon do with her after he hypnotizes her? Hope you don't mind answering the questions--definitely appreciating the images and information shared here so far.

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Dr. Psycho is a manipulator and manipulated Diana. Manipulation and hypnosis are very useful against powerful superheroines.

Any chance at sharing the next page of this fantastic sequence? Thanks for sharing this one.

It's been awhile since I read it (that's from Wonder Woman Earth One, Volume 2), but as I recall she's scheduled to give a speech shortly afterward and he forces her to say that she and the Amazons are going to conquer Man's World, basically declaring war. His mission was to make her do something that would justify an invasion of Paradise Island. That's all the comic shows, although Psycho's last line (and the dark panel) certainly suggest other things.

For me, it depends what the hypnosis does. It's not just there for its own sake.

As a PG-13 series, we've used hypnosis or mind control with at least six different characters:
- Devorra uses her pollen to control the minds of ordinary people, making them her temporary minions.
- Chlorina uses her toxic gas to control weak men or superheroines to do her bidding.
- Etherea uses her "bliss hormones" to create a sense of lethargic euphoria in her enemies, allowing them to be defeated.
- Serpenta uses her hypnotic stare to turn a superheroine into a puppet slave, and knock her out.
- Pagliaccia uses her hypnotic "fear ray" to make people extremely afraid or very unsure of themselves.
- Mesmera uses her mind-control powers to knock people out, and turn a superheroine into an evil minion who attacks her friend.

So, there has to be a specific purpose in the story for it. But it's very fun to incorporate hypnosis and mind control.

In an R-rated or X-rated situation, it's always entertaining to see a superheroine hypnotized into a heightened state of desire
for her captor, or for a third party. I've seen that a good bit, I think, in your work, MH, as well as videos by the likes of Anastasia and Christina. It's an attractive trope, especially when there are good costumes to go along with it.

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1 year ago

It's been awhile since I read it (that's from Wonder Woman Earth One, Volume 2), but as I recall she's scheduled to give a speech shortly afterward and he forces her to say that she and the Amazons are going to conquer Man's World, basically declaring war. His mission was to make her do something that would justify an invasion of Paradise Island. That's all the comic shows, although Psycho's last line (and the dark panel) certainly suggest other things.

That last line is indeed provocative. And in the realm of fantasy, it would have been enticing to see Dr. Psycho take some liberties with Wonder Woman. But in the realm of reality, it's an untouchable topic for the comic book industry. Thank you for elaborating on the plot.

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DrMabuse wrote: ↑

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It's been awhile since I read it (that's from Wonder Woman Earth One, Volume 2), but as I recall she's scheduled to give a speech shortly afterward and he forces her to say that she and the Amazons are going to conquer Man's World, basically declaring war. His mission was to make her do something that would justify an invasion of Paradise Island. That's all the comic shows, although Psycho's last line (and the dark panel) certainly suggest other things.

That last line is indeed provocative. And in the realm of fantasy, it would have been enticing to see Dr. Psycho take some liberties with Wonder Woman. But in the realm of reality, it's an untouchable topic for the comic book industry. Thank you for elaborating on the plot.

I don't know if it's true or not. They say there was an idea with a comic book of 22 pages, around 1993. With the title "The Rape of Wonder Woman" a comic book story written by writer Mark Millar.

Everytime I wake up from hypnosis, it is strange that my clothes are off and I am tucked in bed with a rose on my pillow???

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Everytime I wake up from hypnosis, it is strange that my clothes are off and I am tucked in bed with a rose on my pillow???

I keep forgetting to bring the other 11!

In a vacuum I don’t really find it that interesting. It can be used as a tool to make a great peril scene though. For example, in one episode of Electra Woman and Dyna Girl they are hypnotized into nearly jumping to their deaths. Glitter rock, their hypnotizer, claims that he allowed them to have just enough awareness to realize that they were about to die, and you can kinda see the fear on Electra Woman’s face around that point. They needed a guy to save them at the last second. It’s a great peril scene that uses hypnosis effectively, but the hypnosis itself isn’t really the point

It's very interesting that "yes" has been a pretty clear "winner" almost for the go while most of the written responses have been negative.

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It's very interesting that "yes" has been a pretty clear "winner" almost for the go while most of the written responses have been negative.

I think it's one of those "Yes, but" situations. Most of us like it in SOME form, but mind control is such a wide net that everyone has their own preference. It's like the superheroine genre really. Everyone has their own preferred balances when it comes to appearances, peril and sexuality.

I think it's one of those "Yes, but" situations. Most of us like it in SOME form, but mind control is such a wide net that everyone has their own preference. It's like the superheroine genre really. Everyone has their own preferred balances when it comes to appearances, peril and sexuality.
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Not into the old "Yes master, No master" "Arms up in the air infront of you while you walk around" type of hypnosis.

I like it when the girl is aware but just has to do the actions.

I like my superheroines to be overcome by seemingly weaker individuals once in a while. Hypnosis kinda evens the odds and that's part of the appeal of hypnosis for me.

I enjoy a temporary hypnosis. Especially when the heroine knows she is being controlled.

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I enjoy a temporary hypnosis. Especially when the heroine knows she is being controlled.

When ElectraWoman & DynaGirl were hypnotized by Glitterrock & swaying on the edge of high platform, the villain said he "changed the chord progression just enough to let them know they're in big trouble."

Now *that's* evil!

Yes. I enjoy the mind control fetish on its own, I enjoy it more when the subject is a superheroine. The attraction of hypnosis/mind control to me is that the subject is led into the submission willingly. The mind is conditioned to follow suggestions, to allow another person to do the thinking and to enjoy being controlled. To willingly submit to another. Some like what happens after the submission more than the submission itself, others not, I like both-especially if the subject is led into an ever tightening web of control. The added attraction of the superheroine is that they are more powerful than ordinary women, and more confident and headstrong. Many cannot be defeated physically, so their only vulnerability is their own mind. So there are multiple “fits” to defeating superheroines with mind control, and the submission and defeat is all the more sweet when they experience it willingly, and their inner submissive self wins out over their outwardly dominant self. There is no defeat more final than “The former superheroine once known as ‘x’ who is now my willing slave…..”

I am into superheroines and DiDs being hypnotized or otherwise conditioned mentally, but I personally don't often go fir the standard "yeeess masterrrr..." robotic-emotionless-hands-extended-like-Frankenstein trances. Imo, the quality stuff is when the subject is in a dopey, blissful stupor complete with a goofy smile, ala Kaa's hypnotic effect in Jungle Book. A big bonus is if she's usually serious and stern, or was angry or upset by this nutball with the supervillain get-up barging in just seconds before the trance began.

Though not necessarily always the same thing, I also like other induced personality changes. Things like slower brainwashing tactics or mind-altering rays, potions, powders, etc. Realy just anything that turns our leading lady or her sisterhood of a supporting cast into goofy twits, much more susceptible to a diabolical devil's dastardly demands and desires.