Lack of Marvel Superheroines (aka Why DC)

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Marvel heroines also don't have iconic depowerment like DC has. Supergirl with kryptonite. Wonder Woman losing her belt. Batgirl just being a regular girl. Plus the characters themselves are more iconic. Few people know Jubilee for example. And the hot Marvel women are usually so OP as to be unreproducible in a fetish video. Ms Marvel for example has no inherent weakness I know about. And quite frankly I hate the whole mutant thing.
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Mr. X wrote:Marvel heroines also don't have iconic depowerment like DC has. Supergirl with kryptonite. Wonder Woman losing her belt. Batgirl just being a regular girl. Plus the characters themselves are more iconic. Few people know Jubilee for example. And the hot Marvel women are usually so OP as to be unreproducible in a fetish video. Ms Marvel for example has no inherent weakness I know about. And quite frankly I hate the whole mutant thing.
Honestly, I'm not a fan of the idea of a superhero having an easily exploitable weakness, and it's a pretty cheap way of providing a credible threat to the superhero(ine). One good thing about Bluestone is that they often don't use weaknesses, simply an adversary like Mace that can best the superheroine without resorting to their weakness (Supernova films notwithstanding), which I prefer, since I always found kryptonite to be a pretty cheap plot device in both mainstream and fetish films. There are tons of Marvel villains out there that can hold their own against the strong Marvel superheroines, like Green Goblin (Marvel's more psychotic Lex Luthor), Venom, Thanos, Doctor Doom (who could use devices to weaken the superheroine if you're really into that), Apocalypse, Omega Red and others.
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Marvel comics also doesn't have a lot of solo female characters. Marvel is mostly team-based, anyway, and their few solo heroes are men.

Actually, if you think about it, even DC had limited success with female heroines. Supergirl and Batgirl are both minor characters on-par with sidekicks. Wonder Woman is really the only really successful female heroine in pop culture at all, and her TV show wasn't as successful as Batman or any of the Superman movies and TV shows.

That's actually something that always kinda bugged me about comic books in general.

Previous posters also have a good point about Marvel heroines power's not lending themselves to sexual situations. My favorite Marvel heroine is Shadowcat and her powers make her essentially impossible to capture. The Invisible Girl's powers are likewise not conducive to porn. Rogue? You can't touch her? Storm? Very challenging for a producer to film anything with her powers as they would require some serious special effects. Jean Gray? Again, her powers would make her impossible to hold, since she can read/control minds and move stuff by telekinesis.

There are a few Spider-Woman videos out there, of course, which makes sense.

And then, of course, there are the female versions of male heroes. I've seen a few vids with a female Captain America. But frankly, none of them are really great. A lot of them use the same Halloween costume which isn't all that great and to me. A female Thor? Meh. A female Iron Man? I think there's a vid or two of this, but is anyone really interested?

Who else would you like to see?

Personally, I'd like to see more original heroines.
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I'd argue Black Widow is getting up there with the 'big three'.... but then we actually are starting to see more than a few Black Widow themed videos here and there so maybe the example gets thrown out. Here's crossing my fingers Captain Marvel does well and inspires a plethora of sexy videos!
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As far as the comics themselves, even from childhood days I was a Marvel guy. Having said that I've always had to acknowledge DC had sexier heroines. My favorites were Power Girl, Zatanna, Saturn Girl, Shadow Lass and Phantom Lady - off the top of my head - I'm probably forgetting someone.
My favorite Marvel female is still Tigra. I know there are some really cute cosplay pics floating around. A nicely done video would surely be welcome though.
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Marvel has not had much success with singular superheroines, they have tried; but it has not worked.

I think black Widow is more due to Scarlet Johnasen than the character.

as far as this genre, Anaststsia Pierce has been using Scarlett Witch and Christina cater has used Black Cat and Dagger

But the three D.C: Wonder Woman, Bat girl and Cat woman are icons.
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Good point by Dazzle.
I would like to see more takes on Psylocke. Ideally an Asian-American model could play the role, but I love the costume in general. There was a Psylocke character in the Supergirl Villains United UK video, which was nice to see (but a higher cut costume would be a nice touch). The Jim Lee Psylocke is one of the hottest Marvel characters in my opinion. I hated what happened to the character after Jim Lee stopped drawing for Uncanny X-Men and X-Men.
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AnastasiaPierce wrote:I do have many adventures with Marvel Characters. I like them too just as much as the DC characters. Check out my Scarlet Witch adventures and also my Black Cat ones.
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Shakeshift wrote:Marvel (owned by Disney) is MUCH more likely to take legal action or send a cease-and-desist order against anyone using their properties. Most producers don't want to drop money on a project and then get contacted by a lawyer. It's not worth the money or the hassle. The sales are (frankly) not much better than the usual heroines you see.
There are Avengers porno parodies and Disney has not taken any action against them.
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Revenger wrote:
Shakeshift wrote:Marvel (owned by Disney) is MUCH more likely to take legal action or send a cease-and-desist order against anyone using their properties. Most producers don't want to drop money on a project and then get contacted by a lawyer. It's not worth the money or the hassle. The sales are (frankly) not much better than the usual heroines you see.
There are Avengers porno parodies and Disney has not taken any action against them.
Small fry are easy pickings. Its way easier to stop a small producer with a cease letter vs taking Vivid to court.
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Mr. X wrote:Marvel heroines also don't have iconic depowerment like DC has.....Ms Marvel for example has no inherent weakness I know about. And quite frankly I hate the whole mutant thing.
Ms Marvel has the whole rivalry with Rogue thing going on, gets stuck on a coma from having the life sucked out of her

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And recently (recently? 2012? 2013) in the Enemy Within story arc she basically got the source of her powers turned against her and got her brain fried

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(it's actually the next panel when the villain is gloating and saying something like "hahahahaha and you;re getting locked away in a crystal prison to watch how you failed to save you stupid world")
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The Japanese have been making a lot of interesting porn. I think one of the things that they have totally done right are putting a lot of effort into interesting villains. A lot of the American villains are inexpensive versions of Halloween costumes. The female villains that they used in the Power Ranger shows were a lot more interesting than the heroes/ heroines themselves. The theme fetish of the week for those villains were always more fun than the personal tribulations of the Rangers.
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Let's face it, aren't you more interested in the perversions of these characters than heroines they are tormenting?
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I realize that improving the costuming on the villains will add a lot of cost to the video production, but more interesting villains make more interesting adventures. Not being super familiar with Japanese characters, I see the heroines as more non-descript than the villains. The big three have been over done so many times, they are becoming generic tropes, but a really interesting villain can have real staying power. That is why Diana Knight does them so well. As a viewer, you get into head of the character and you really can appreciate why she wants O-girl to cum until it trigger the detonator on the bomb....
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The thing with Giga is over the years they built up a store house of costume stuff. So now they can slap villains together fairly cheap. Now I have noticed a lot of giga video tend to be the same repeated story. Villains attack someone. Girl shows up and fights. Girl turns into super girl and kicks the villains ass. Bad guy fights super girl and runs away. Suepr girl attacks them in hideout and loses. Super girl is sexually assaulted. Rinse repeat.

They do appear to have some common sets already made like some control room set, classroom, prison, city for giants. And they seem to shoot outdoors a lot. No idea how they get awya with that. I do know they also do Zen which is the non adult version so my guess is they shoot the non-adult version outside then shoot the naughty stuff another time.
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Something else to consider is how close adaptations have stuck to the superheroiney costumes. Supergirl, Batgirl and Wonder Woman have all been adapted fairly faithfully in live action. So if you see their costumes, you can instantly recognize them in a parody. Even if the names have been changed to ArgonGirl, KnightGirl and Princess Paradise. Black Widow is getting there in terms of recognition, but a girl in a black catsuit could easily be mistaken for CatWoman or any number of catsuited ass-kickers. (Emma Peel, Selene, Vanessa Kensington...)

Most Marvel heroines are unrecognizable in live action, particularly those from Fox's X-Men movies in their unremarkable leather outfits. The 2000s Sue Storm and Electra were fairly faithful, but those movies aren't well-remembered. Which means comics and old cartoons are the main frame of reference for Marvel superheroines. Especially if we want to see them in tights and other figure-hugging attire in bright colors.

Outside of those who read (or used to read) comics or watch cartoons, there's little chance of many people seeing a Marvel heroine and instantly knowing her name and powers/characteristics. Some costumes like Ms Marvel and Scarlet Witch sell themselves on sexiness alone. However, I can see why producers prefer to fall back on characters who are much more familiar to the widest audience.
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Mr. X wrote:
Always loved this scene.
Good call that man
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Judging from the number of Marvel porn parodies that have appeared in the past few years, I'd say the legal problems can be got around. I suspect the reason we've not seen a Fantastic Four porn parody is because, as has been mentioned, the budget would be too big for most porn companies, and there's only one female member of the team. Susan Storm did appear in a lesbian scene with She Hulk a few years back, but it didn't do much for me. She Hulk is a lady covered in green paint and personally lesbian scenes aren't my thing.

But it would be easy enough to do a scene with just the Invisible Woman, and come up with some plot reason why her powers can't work.
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