Kraven the Hunter (2023, Sony)

[shevek]

In movie theaters in October.

Not enough info to tell if Ariana DeBose (whom I've never heard of, sorry - there's this alternate entertainment pop culture universe where people are huge fans of movie musicals, and I'm simply not a part of it whatsoever) is going to be a sexy Calypso.

Aaron Taylor-Johnson, however, certainly has the hero movie pedigree to play the part, having been both Kickass and Quicksilver.
Plus, Rhino is in it! And I like the shots of London.

I can't help but think how this is movie is basically the *replacement* for the cancelled Black Cat/Silver Sable film. I wish they had somehow been able to do both.

Anyway, I'll definitely check it out given the brutality of the trailer. We could use a couple more good rated-R superhero flicks. I'm sure we'll see lots of male cosplay of Kraven soon at Cons from the same dudes who dress up as Thor.



Update: To get familiar with a screen version of Kraven again, I watched The Spider-Man Animated Series (1994) episodes S1 E7, and S4 E4 featuring
his battles with Kraven.

These episodes are great, and they feature lots of sexy, smart and complex female characters right smack in the middle of the un-PC 1990s: Black Cat/Felicia Hardy, Debra Whitman, Mary Jane Watson, and the character I was looking for: Calypso (who in the cartoon is a biological scientist). If the Calypso in the movie is anything like this portrayal (i.e. a scientist who acquires animal huntress powers) it should be a good time. Looks like in the movie, if she has any primeval attributes, it'll be associated with voodoo (closer to her comics portrayal than the cartoon) but that can work fine.

[Mr. X]

So he got bit by a radioactive Lion?

[sugarcoater]

Thanks for the heads up on the trailer Shevek. And for a trip down nostalgia's way, I'm reminded of this series as it was one of the more intense Spiderman storylines from my childhood:

https://www.marvel.com/comics/events/25 ... _last_hunt

It was an intriguing storyline at the time.

[Dogfish]

It's Morbin' Time. Or whatever this guy says I dunno.

[Dazzle1]

Thanks for the heads up on the trailer Shevek. And for a trip down nostalgia's way, I'm reminded of this series as it was one of the more intense Spiderman storylines from my childhood:

https://www.marvel.com/comics/events/25 ... _last_hunt

It was an intriguing storyline at the time.

Kraven was a great anti-hero in that series.

[Lurkndog]

This isn't Marvel, it's one of Sony's spinoffs of their Spider-Man license, like the Venom movies.

[cannonfodder]

Wonder how they're going to shit out 3 more movies' to make the Sinister Six team up movie

[Femina]

Oh geese.... Sony's REALLY hardup for this crap...

I find it particularly funny how in comic books, in Spidey's circle of stuff... Black Cat has GOT to be a more popular character than Morbius or Kraven... like... fourth string Spidey Villains... but somehow on Sony's watch we've got more spinoffs about VILLAINS than even attempts at other Heroes from the Spiderman comics and the only reason I can think we're getting f'kn KRAVEN instead of a Black Cat film is cause we just gotta get more dude headlined flicks so... here's the next character nobody really wants to see a solo film about!

Hit-Girl would be proud of Kick Ass though I guess... he really buffed out and took this vigilante thing to the next level!

[Mr. X]

Oh geese.... Sony's REALLY hardup for this crap...

I find it particularly funny how in comic books, in Spidey's circle of stuff... Black Cat has GOT to be a more popular character than Morbius or Kraven... like... fourth string Spidey Villains... but somehow on Sony's watch we've got more spinoffs about VILLAINS than even attempts at other Heroes from the Spiderman comics and the only reason I can think we're getting f'kn KRAVEN instead of a Black Cat film is cause we just gotta get more dude headlined flicks so... here's the next character nobody really wants to see a solo film about!

Probably cause girl characters do not sell.

[Femina]

Oh geese.... Sony's REALLY hardup for this crap...

I find it particularly funny how in comic books, in Spidey's circle of stuff... Black Cat has GOT to be a more popular character than Morbius or Kraven... like... fourth string Spidey Villains... but somehow on Sony's watch we've got more spinoffs about VILLAINS than even attempts at other Heroes from the Spiderman comics and the only reason I can think we're getting f'kn KRAVEN instead of a Black Cat film is cause we just gotta get more dude headlined flicks so... here's the next character nobody really wants to see a solo film about!

Probably cause girl characters do not sell.

Neither did Morbius, a film with a Strong Male lead, and it died WELL before it's audience response too... the kind of numbers it pulled were indicative of an audience that full on, didn't care. Wonder Woman sold just fine, cause people cared about the character, even it's crappy sequel WOULD have if not for Covid... before people had a chance to learn it was a bad sequel. Captain Marvel did not BOMB despite a FLOOD of negativity directed at it because of the strength of the popularity of the MCU. Gender has nothing to do with it, the idea that it does is just a collective psychosis that film makers keep learning isn't real anymore but keep believing anyway. They wanna make money they should make films about the POPULAR characters, and spiderman all on his lonesome over there has a VERY limited pool to draw from, but he does have at least a few allies in his arena that could pull SOME audience interest vs this weird fourth string Villains crap they keep pulling... I mean shit, if you're gonna just do Spiderman villain films... at least make it the GOOD villains? They tried Venom so... fair, but then they skipped the obvious ones. Doc Oc AT LEAST deserved a film before Morbius or Kraven? They're so far down Spidey's punching Bag it's amazing!

[shevek]

Black Cat has GOT to be a more popular character than Morbius or Kraven...

It would have been nice to have a Black Cat/Silver Sable film, but we didn't necessarily need it.
All we really needed is a nice sexy portrayal of Black Cat in a regular Spider-Man film.
We haven't got one, but instead we have Venom, Carnage, Kraven & Rhino.

[shevek]

Hey! Kraven appeared on the waves so I watched it.
It was OK. Certainly better than Madame Web, at least in terms of action.

Just less sexy women: there was only one - Calypso. The difference here is that she's not a voodoo priestess (her grandmother is, instead)
and her job is 1) to give Sergei the mystical potion that gives him powers and 2) to assist him in his hunts as a lawyer and information gatherer.

I would say it wouldn't be a waste of time for you to watch it, other than the fact that since we know the Sony "SPUMM" Universe is dead anyway,
it's not going to lead to anything new, so it's a dead end.
You do get to see The Rhino, The Foreigner, and The Chameleon (Kraven's half-brother, exactly like in the comics).

Near the last part of the movie, Calypso finally gets out of her business dress and dons a sexy tight black costume. Where she got it in the middle
of the Siberian wilderness, I have no idea. But actress Ariana DeBose (who is really fucking famous, I had no idea she won a Grammy!) is super hot and just gets hotter until this costume appears. After that, she suddenly *disappears* from the movie and is not in the end. There is also no love interest with Kraven, and thus unfortunately a low amount of chemistry between them. If we'd only seen them bonking naked for like ten seconds it would have made a bit more sense. How does Kraven have insanely high levels of testosterone and not have sex with anyone?

Anyway, here are three sexy photos of Calypso in that final costume where she becomes an "archer".

What would I give this movie? A 5.5, I guess. Lots of great action sequences with much killing and destruction and wild animals.

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[nullbrawl]

This isn't Marvel, it's one of Sony's spinoffs of their Spider-Man license, like the Venom movies.

Truth! Sony's Spider-Man Spinoff, such as Venom, stands apart from the universe of Marvel, focuses on different characters and tones. It is a unique, but still associated with web-sighting heritage.

[Lurkndog]

Oh geese.... Sony's REALLY hardup for this crap...

I find it particularly funny how in comic books, in Spidey's circle of stuff... Black Cat has GOT to be a more popular character than Morbius or Kraven... like... fourth string Spidey Villains... but somehow on Sony's watch we've got more spinoffs about VILLAINS than even attempts at other Heroes from the Spiderman comics and the only reason I can think we're getting f'kn KRAVEN instead of a Black Cat film is cause we just gotta get more dude headlined flicks so... here's the next character nobody really wants to see a solo film about!

Hit-Girl would be proud of Kick Ass though I guess... he really buffed out and took this vigilante thing to the next level!

I think Kraven is actually more of an A-List Spidey villain from back in the day. He was fighting Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends back in the 80s before Black Cat even existed. And Kraven's Last Hunt was a big deal when it came out. Of course, after that he was dead, and they didn't want to cheapen it by bringing him back too soon.

I'm not sure what a Black Cat storyline comparable in stature to Kraven's Last Hunt would be.