The Boys Season 4

[Mr. X]

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This I don't think turned out well. She apparently did have that surgery.

[CIA]

I watch the show because I think Starlight is hot. I still think she looks great even after the surgery but I would love to see her dressing sexier. I don't think the french guy, his mute girlfriend or his gay storyline, and Deep's weird fetish really creeps me out.

As far as the politics, Homelander worships the Nazis- is there any doubt who's the bad guy?

[Mr. X]

It seems more like the Tudor court and Henry VIII.

[shevek]

I can’t tell if you are agreeing with me, arguing against me, or what point your trying to make

But all I can in regards to this thread is: it’s a fucking ultra violent superhero comic come to life. Anyone who is disappointed with a series that features superhero orgies, cocks strangling dudes in a fight or a women giving herself a lobotomy to be dumb enough to enjoy junk food while fucking - like what did you think you were getting? A well written political thriller?

I can’t remember the last time I went to McDonald’s and complained they didn’t grill t bone steaks there

Everyone here just seems ready to not have a good time

I'm not 'disappointed' with the series. As Sneakly stated, the series has been exactly what it is since its start.

I'm somewhat (mildly) disappointed with Kripke fully stating that 1) the series is woke, 2) Homelander is Trump, and 3) if you are anti-woke then don't watch it. He could have waited until after the series was over to spew that. But I guarantee you he didn't want to wait because he wanted The Boys to be part of propagandizing the 2024 election cycle. It's like the difference between theoretical physics and applied physics. He wanted this to be 'applied entertainment'. That's what progressives tend to do - they think their entertainment will change the world. Which is dumb, because he's not going to change anyone's mind about anything.

I'm having a good enough time watching it, so there's that.

Also, people are pretty much right about Starlight: between the surgery, the makeup and the wardrobe, the hotness has been utterly drained out of
Erin Moriarty. Plus there doesn't seem to be much hope of her ever putting on the costume again, because she promised she would do it if necessary, but then he disowned her.

Which leaves the hottest heroine on the show as Firecracker. Let's hope she survives long enough. Homelander would probably kill her during the act of sex, so I'm afraid that might happen?

[NotUv2]

Having now seen the latest episode in full... wow. Quite the barn-burner. I think I'm... kind of hooked on this season. Refreshing. I kind of tuned out of Season 3 and all the Soldier Boy stuff at a certain point, I have to admit, so it's cool to see it firing on all cylinders again.

Homelander's confrontation with the team of Vought scientists who analyzed and molded him is fucking riveting stuff. Watching him torment them is super-uncomfortable and it would get gratuitous but for amazing performances from everyone involved, especially Starr's Homelander, who not only confronts the fact of what was done to him in this lab but also the fact that they psychologically manipulated him into enduring it. That they made him crave approval as a lever over him, since they never had any real shot at physically confining him if he chose not to allow it. The emotional complexity, intensity, and skin-crawling horror of the whole sequence is unforgettable. That final shot of Homelander is so fucking chilling... just great.

The parallel plot with Sister Sage maneuvering Firecracker as a PR pawn (and rather pointedly not telling her that the plan involved her getting beaten to a pulp) against Starlight is also cracking good stuff. Starlight beating the hell from Firecracker at its climax is actually pretty satisfying even as it's clear that she's committing a fatal error. Sister Sage continues to be a fascinating and freaky (literally, at times, in the course of her guilty-pleasure affair with The Deep and how far she's willing to go to indulge it) addition to the roster of the Seven.

The subplots with the other Boys all appear to be heading somewhere fruitful or interesting. Has Butcher actually re-acquired superpower? Interesting question, signs point to Yes. The other subplots, one involving A-Train, are similarly interesting. Again, they still feel kind of like a collective C-plot in their own show, but they're getting really intriguing.

[jlocke]

I love Firecracker. I love her accent, I love her swagger, and love her unflinching confidence is saying things that are batshit insane. I love her bedazzled blue camouflage homemade superheroine outfit, complete with rhinestone Thin Blue Line USA Flag. She is fucking awesome! And her revenge story is perfect. The Disney fucking princess of the story, Starlight, started a rumor that Firecracker had let the pageant judges fuck her in the ass to get to the finals. And when confronted with it, the Disney princess called our patriotic superheroine a "fat slut". Dude! I love this character so much.

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[NotUv2]

Firecracker is indeed good fun in her own way, fucking awful though she is.

Sister Sage is my personal standout in the new cast, though. She's just sooo wrong and so frighteningly competent at the same time. (She's like "What if Diamond and Silk had actually been as smart as they thought they were?") Her Certain Scene with The Deep in this last episode furnishes up mental images that you can never un-see even though they don't happen onscreen.

[shevek]

Firecracker is indeed good fun in her own way, fucking awful though she is.

Sister Sage is my personal standout in the new cast, though. She's just sooo wrong and so frighteningly competent at the same time. (She's like "What if Diamond and Silk had actually been as smart as they thought they were?") Her Certain Scene with The Deep in this last episode furnishes up mental images that you can never un-see even though they don't happen onscreen.

I'll give you one thing: although Sage is not particularly visually appealing (and I don't think she's meant to be, really), the seductive DTF looks she gives The Deep are pretty hot.

But I have to part ways with you there, because there is no way that Sage is "Diamond and Silk". I think you're looking in the wrong place for Kripke's inspiration. Yes, Firecracker is definitely the MAGA podcaster amped to 11 (Alex Jones or whomever). But Sage isn't meant to be a parody of a pop celebrity. She is obviously a CRT professor with superpowers: Ibram X Kendi, Robin D'Angelo, Ta-Nehisi Coates, Cornel West and the like. The evidence for this theory is literally all around her: the books which litter her apartment and later her room at Seven HQ, and the reference to Saul Kripke.

To be perfectly honest, if I was to write an academic gender/racial studies professor as a superheroine, I would probably do it much the same way: in the classroom or on the TED Talk stage, she'd be just this prim and proper ideologue who categorically condemns any sort of objectification and prattles on about oppression, but in private she just has the extreme desire to be a horny slut. The only difference is that I wouldn't have her consume an entire greasy Blooming Onion in one sitting, making herself morbidly obese eating greasy restaurant food to cope with her four hundred years of inherited racial trauma. Instead, she'd remove her dowdy glasses, shake her hair loose, rip open her plain professor blouse and skirt, and wear a super tight and sexy costume underneath: "Oh...Deep...come here..I'm so hot and this pussy is so wet...lick me out quickly...I'm Marginalized Woman!"

I'll give Kripke this: his writing does continue to have quite an acerbic wit...an almost British quality to it. Because (if you haven't noticed) a lot of the gore and sex that goes on in The Boys is quite similar to what I've seen in two previous superhero series: the UK's Misfits, and Brian Michael Bendis' Powers (where the main villain is British).

[jlocke]

U.S. politics are boring and retarded. Is there anyway we could quarantine this boner killing, depression spreading, brain softening disease? Like a politics megathread? Then all the pseudo- intellectuals could go in there and masturbate to their own dipshittery?

Anyways, more about Firecracker. Her blue camo/police superheroine costume has a lot of possibilities.

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You guys are so busy trying to figure out who the bad guys are in The Boys, you're missing the bad girl. Who really needs taken down a notch. Tied up and spanked. Or after ep.4, the good girl who got beaten up by the godless blonde hypocrite, who now needs a lot of kindness and affection from her physical therapist.

[NotUv2]

Yeah I rather doubt that Sister Sage is based on a "CRT professor" but also the point isn't worth pursuing, really.

I'll give Kripke this: his writing does continue to have quite an acerbic wit...an almost British quality to it.

I'd agree with that.

[Mr. X]

I'm not 'disappointed' with the series. As Sneakly stated, the series has been exactly what it is since its start.

I'm somewhat (mildly) disappointed with Kripke fully stating that 1) the series is woke, 2) Homelander is Trump, and 3) if you are anti-woke then don't watch it. He could have waited until after the series was over to spew that. But I guarantee you he didn't want to wait because he wanted The Boys to be part of propagandizing the 2024 election cycle. It's like the difference between theoretical physics and applied physics. He wanted this to be 'applied entertainment'. That's what progressives tend to do - they think their entertainment will change the world. Which is dumb, because he's not going to change anyone's mind about anything.

I'm having a good enough time watching it, so there's that.

Also, people are pretty much right about Starlight: between the surgery, the makeup and the wardrobe, the hotness has been utterly drained out of
Erin Moriarty. Plus there doesn't seem to be much hope of her ever putting on the costume again, because she promised she would do it if necessary, but then he disowned her.

Which leaves the hottest heroine on the show as Firecracker. Let's hope she survives long enough. Homelander would probably kill her during the act of sex, so I'm afraid that might happen?

After watching most of Supernatural and the Kripke seasons its apparent with guys like Kripke the left controls media but the right controls inspiration.

[sneakly]

I'm not 'disappointed' with the series. As Sneakly stated, the series has been exactly what it is since its start.

I'm somewhat (mildly) disappointed with Kripke fully stating that 1) the series is woke, 2) Homelander is Trump, and 3) if you are anti-woke then don't watch it. He could have waited until after the series was over to spew that. But I guarantee you he didn't want to wait because he wanted The Boys to be part of propagandizing the 2024 election cycle. It's like the difference between theoretical physics and applied physics. He wanted this to be 'applied entertainment'. That's what progressives tend to do - they think their entertainment will change the world. Which is dumb, because he's not going to change anyone's mind about anything.

I'm having a good enough time watching it, so there's that.

Also, people are pretty much right about Starlight: between the surgery, the makeup and the wardrobe, the hotness has been utterly drained out of
Erin Moriarty. Plus there doesn't seem to be much hope of her ever putting on the costume again, because she promised she would do it if necessary, but then he disowned her.

Which leaves the hottest heroine on the show as Firecracker. Let's hope she survives long enough. Homelander would probably kill her during the act of sex, so I'm afraid that might happen?

After watching most of Supernatural and the Kripke seasons its apparent with guys like Kripke the left controls media but the right controls inspiration.

I wouldn’t go that far. There are plenty of right of center media. Fox and Sinclair control a lot of media in the US, so you can’t say they are under represented. There are also plenty of production companies that cater to conservative values.

Expecting a show about super heroines in booty shorts and superheroes that with prehensile penises (season one) are going to, at their core, promote conservative values, might be expecting a bit much. A lot of conservatives mistook The Stephen Colbert Show on Comedy Central as being a real conservative, rather than satire.

Firecracker does look good in those shorts, though…

[Mr. X]

I wouldn’t go that far. There are plenty of right of center media. Fox and Sinclair control a lot of media in the US, so you can’t say they are under represented. There are also plenty of production companies that cater to conservative values.

Expecting a show about super heroines in booty shorts and superheroes that with prehensile penises (season one) are going to, at their core, promote conservative values, might be expecting a bit much. A lot of conservatives mistook The Stephen Colbert Show on Comedy Central as being a real conservative, rather than satire.

Firecracker does look good in those shorts, though…

That missed my point but I'm not going to debate it. Its not about equal representation.

[jlocke]

Firecracker does look good in those shorts, though…

Thank you! Finally! Now you're starting to make sense!

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[NotUv2]

Damn, we're not talking about the Flying Killer Sheep yet? That was freaking amazing. (I'm more certain than ever that John Kessler is another Butcher hallucination, BTW.) Scary Super-Livestock is an underexploited niche, clearly.

Rest of the latest episode was pretty rad, too. Okay, the stuff with Hughie's dad was tragic... but we knew it was going to be, given the show it's on.

On account of this season I actually went back and re-watched the prior seasons, and even the "Gen V" and "Diabolical" spinoffs. I think I've had a long enough lay-off from this whole series that it all felt fresh again. This episode's nods to Gen V actually felt more meaningful on that account, though they would have been parseable without watching extra content.

[Mr. X]

Those chickens were fighting for Chicken justice!

[NotUv2]

Those chickens were fighting for Chicken justice!

And how.

[jlocke]

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Crimson Countess' original costume is so groovy! I want to watch that movie. Or at least fast forward through it and then watch the Countess scenes in slow motion.

Liberty is the original name of so evil, and yet so sexy, Stormfront.

[shevek]

"Jerking off to Minka Kelly" was actually the best line.

[NotUv2]

Liberty/Stormfront got precisely what she deserved (a rare case in The Boys universe) but I do enjoy the fact of her having paraded her tight Nazi buns in front of the American public for decades before it caught up with her.

We also get a nice shot of a hilariously whitewashed "Native American" superhero in the ep. 5 Vought retrospective. That was a nice touch amidst all the poking of fun at MCU phase announcements and the DCEU trying to make re-shoots into a positive. They are truly taking no prisoners.

[jlocke]

Firecracker Lord's Soldier is an amazing launch to Vought Faith.

"I'm not sure if I'm strong enough to fight all the sinners. Will you carry me Jesus?"

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[shevek]

We also get a nice shot of a hilariously whitewashed "Native American" superhero in the ep. 5 Vought retrospective.

That's not what that was. It was a direct parody of this.
I guess you didn't know that? Didn't catch your superheroine fetish in the 70s, I guess.



Matt Groening knew.

[NotUv2]

That's not what that was. It was a direct parody of this.

Oh, Iron Eyes Cody was known for a lot more than just the commercials. (He was one of the most infamous examples of whitewashed "Indians" in the movies. He vanished into the bit so completely that he falsely claimed to be Native American for much of his life. Only on his death was it revealed he was Sicilian.) But yes, I got that parallel.

[jlocke]

A little ass cheek and some nice cleavage. More superheroines should follow Firecracker's example.

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I will be checking very closely next episode. I'm hoping Firecracker unzips her top, and shortens her shorts every episode.

[Mr. X]

We know the author. We know the comic. We know its attacking right wing stuff and religion and fake heroes.

The claim is the supposed "right wingers" didn't know for 4 seasons this show was mocking them. Its pretty clear from episode 1 season 1 and the comics that's all the show is about so NOBODY was shocked. Nobody was shocked. Nobody was tricked. Only people might be some out of touch Matt Walsh tradcon or Ben Shapiro tradcon.

But this show is a grand example that the left controls media but the right controls inspiration and material.

[jlocke]

We literally had a superheroine on her knees and begging, and it's a pass for the political crowd.

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We had a superheroine catfight, ending in an honest to goodness crowbar to the back of the head, sexy superheroine knocked out cold, face smushed against glass. And you guys are like, "Nah, my fee-fees got hurt because of the political implications of Blah, Blah, fucking Blah!"

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When was the last time you saw a woman smashed in the head with a crowbar, and lying unconscious? When was the last time you saw a beautiful woman with her face smushed against glass? Aren't people bitching about never seeing this kind of thing in mainstream entertainment? Then when it happens, you find something else to bitch about.

It's really a lot of fun to listen to all you intellectuals pontificate about how smart you are and how your political side is righteous and the other side is constantly oppressing you.

[NotUv2]

We literally had a superheroine on her knees and begging, and it's a pass for the political crowd.

You can expect to see our buddy X trot out that "the left owns the media but the right owns inspiration" line about fifty thousand more times on this thread alone, I can pretty much promise you.

I'm certainly not blind to the charms of Firecracker, but I enjoy watching your enjoyment even more. Good on you.

[shevek]

You can expect to see our buddy X trot out that "the left owns the media but the right owns inspiration" line about fifty thousand more times on this thread alone, I can pretty much promise you.
I'm certainly not blind to the charms of Firecracker, but I enjoy watching your enjoyment even more. Good on you.

I'm still watching, so I don't know what you're talking about when you say "the political guys have a problem, or whatever". They're making an observation, and the observation is true. I knew the show was woke from the beginning, but I just didn't think it was necessary for Kripke to play his cards before the final season.

Yes, Firecracker has a bangin' body, and yes heavy gory shit goes down, that's one of the things keeping me watching, along with the woke in-jokes.

And as for Mr X's statement about "left controls media, right controls inspiration", what he means by that is that a large majority of network shows are specifically progressive-leftist at this point, yet a lot of them spend considerable creating parodies of right-wing topics and personalities to make damn sure you realize where the politics of the show creators stand. Seth MacFarlane's Family Guy and American Dad are just as cogent examples as The Boys is, or Damon Lindelof's Watchmen.

[NotUv2]

And as for Mr X's statement about "left controls media, right controls inspiration", what he means by that is that a large majority of network shows are specifically progressive-leftist at this point, yet a lot of them spend considerable creating parodies of right-wing topics and personalities to make damn sure you realize where the politics of the show creators stand.

Interesting. I honestly wonder if that's how X would put the point. That's not at all what I took him to be driving at, but I could be wrong.

[jlocke]

I'm still watching, so I don't know what you're talking about when you say "the political guys have a problem, or whatever".

I'm the one who said the dumbass political discussion in this thread entirely missed the fact that "The Boys" gave us a sexy new superheroine, with a cool backstory, a sexy costume, gets knocked the fuck out by a crow bar, and no one noticed. Cause you all were busy with your really annoying political discussion.

Hope says:
Politics and Superheroines don't belong together.

[NotUv2]

Cause you all were busy with your really annoying political discussion.

Like, the show is literally about contemporary politics. I can blame X or shevek for having wrong takes on this, but I can't blame them for mentioning and I can't apologize for mentioning it myself. It is just absolutely super-duper-explicitly the core subject matter of the show, and there's 100% no way around that. It is just inescapably a valid topic as the show goes.

That doesn't mean there isn't room for hitting up on the hot superheroine peril shit going on. You're doing a fine job with that, and I'm glad of that. I thank you for your service.

[shevek]

I'm the one who said the dumbass political discussion in this thread entirely missed the fact that "The Boys" gave us a sexy new superheroine, with a cool backstory, a sexy costume, gets knocked the fuck out by a crow bar, and no one noticed. Cause you all were busy with your really annoying political discussion.

Hope says:
Politics and Superheroines don't belong together.

Yeah, over the weekend we were at a punk bar where our Cybrina actress played with her band. It was obvious that it was a woke venue (there were notices about 'consent' posted everywhere, and they needed it, because the place was deluged by brosephs) and yet the place also had a rule: "No Sports. No Politics. No Religion." which I thought was interesting. I mean, what topics are left to talk about? Just Music, Pop Culture, and Hooking Up, I guess.

Again, I won't speak for Mr X in this regard, but I didn't "miss" any of it. From the moment Firecracker and Sister Sage were announced as new characters (and that it was clear they were Kripke creations, not from the comics), I did say that I hoped they were hot. And, in fact, one of them is decidedly smokin'. I also speculated that Kripke would have probably have some kind of woke backstories on his new heroines, and in fact, he did. So, as far as I'm concerned, I'm hitting it out of the park.

As a resident of a district in Pittsburgh represented by a different member of The Squad (and no, I didn't vote for her), I very much approve of your sexy rendition of Ilhan as a voluptuous, 'Merican superheroine, long may her flag wave. Personally, I think Omar looks pretty hot (it's no wonder her brother wanted to lock that down), and I'd love to see a story of how she switches sides - there must be some defining incident which occurred in the Upper Midwest which caused her loyalties to switch from her fanatical co-religionists in Al-Shabaab and Hamas to the good ol' US of A. And maybe there could also be a very sexy transformation sequence where her new fervent patriotism causes her to moan with orgiastic pleasure - why not?

However, I'm not so sure that the Somalis in Minneapolis (you know, the ones who participated in the brazen $250M 'Feeding our Future' covid pandemic aid scam) aren't going to put out a fatwa on your highly haram activities, calling you mushrik and shouting "Allahu Akbar!" at you as they hunt you down and burn you in public like they did to that tourist in the Swat Valley last week. I would really hate to lose a valuable member of the SHIP community. So please do be very careful!

And while you're at it...let's make a superheroine out of another very hot member of The Squad! It's too late to make a hero of the now-defunct Jamaal 'The Bow' Bowman (would've been interesting to see him flex his guns with a bow and arrow), but we've still got AOC, right? I thought it was rather hot how she bounced around on that rally stage in the Bronx like a sexy pop star, and did you see the moment when she released the clip holding her congressional hairdo in place, and it cascaded beautifully down her shoulders? I know there was already a comic book about her several years ago on Devil's Due ("new phone. who dis?"), but it would be so fun to see the Big Booty Latina (source: Alex Stein) spin into a cleavage-popping tight Mujer Maravilla outfit, don't you think? Make it happen!

Alrighty then, back to The Boys. I'll be catching up on the latest episode tonight. Last night I tried to watch Quiet Place Day One but I fell asleep because I was so tired after Hershey Con.

[jlocke]

"No Sports. No Politics. No Religion." which I thought was interesting. I mean, what topics are left to talk about? Just Music, Pop Culture, and Hooking Up, I guess.

I know when I go out to enjoy live music, I mainly want to talk about politics. And religion. I've made them my whole personality, so when asked not to talk about them, I really struggle. But I'm not sad, they are.

Gunner backs me up 100%

[shevek]

"No Sports. No Politics. No Religion." which I thought was interesting. I mean, what topics are left to talk about? Just Music, Pop Culture, and Hooking Up, I guess.

I know when I go out to enjoy live music, I mainly want to talk about politics. And religion. I've made them my whole personality, so when asked not to talk about them, I really struggle. But I'm not sad, they are.

Gunner backs me up 100%

Well, the problem with that doctrine is obvious. I could give a shit about sports. It's so corporate and vapid. But let's say you're a left-leaning punk band (which most are), and you want to talk criticize right-wing politics and its attendant conservative religious doctrines. Will the punk bar that supposedly says "No Sports. No Politics. No Religion." give you a pass to deliver your diatribes from the stage? I bet they will. Because it's "art". In fact, I experienced this myself recently as a concert promoter when the lead singer of a goth band (who gave no indication of being political on their album at all) went into a 15-minute onstage diatribe about Palestine and pronouns. I'm not even sure that a good portion of their audience realized he was going to do this, but I just let it happen because, you know, free speech. That's very much like The Boys, where the leftist diatribes are *built into the script*.

But, if there was a punk band that wanted to champion right-wing values (and yes, they do exist) I'm guessing that in a venue like that, their sound would be shut off within a minute or so. Or, more likely, they just wouldn't get booked there in the first place. Because it's "politics". Hmmm... I'm pretty sure this is what Mr. X meant when he said "left control, right inspiration" (although NotUv2 claimed not to understand this): in most cultural platforms these days which aren't State Fairs or NASCAR rallies, the default position is the left, and the boogieman position is the right.

That Boebert art is sexy as hell. I think people forget (or maybe they don't?) that with a lot of women in Congress now, and politics in general, you're also going to a lot of HOT women who would look fantastic as superheroine alter-egos, whether fighting for the left or the right. I would also posit that, because of their cultural emphasis on feminine appearance, the right-wing ones are hotter. As we said, on the left you have the likes of Ilhan and AOC, but on the right you have Boebert, Kristi Noem, Tulsi Gabbard, Amala Ekpunobi, Tomi Lahren, Lauren Southern, Kayleigh McEnany, Morgan Ortagus, Batya Ungar-Sargon, Anna Paulina Luna, Mayra Flores, Kat Timpf, and it just goes on and on.

Are we going back to talking about The Boys. Maybe by tonight. This diversion seems more interesting right now, since you've been making those AIs.
Hrrrm.

[NotUv2]

However, I'm not so sure that the Somalis in Minneapolis . . . aren't going to put out a fatwa on your highly haram activities, calling you mushrik and shouting "Allahu Akbar!" at you as they hunt you down and burn you in public like they did to that tourist in the Swat Valley last week.

User Note: The Swat Valley is in Pakistan and the lynching incident there had, and has, nothing to do with Somalis in Minneapolis. (Also, the "Feeding our Future" scam involved a dozen people, not "the Somalis in Minneapolis.")

Note to self: Never embolden this dumbass about posting political content.

[shevek]

However, I'm not so sure that the Somalis in Minneapolis . . . aren't going to put out a fatwa on your highly haram activities, calling you mushrik and shouting "Allahu Akbar!" at you as they hunt you down and burn you in public like they did to that tourist in the Swat Valley last week.

User Note: The Swat Valley is in Pakistan and the lynching incident there had, and has, nothing to do with Somalis in Minneapolis. (Also, the "Feeding our Future" scam involved a dozen people, not "the Somalis in Minneapolis.")

Note to self: Never embolden this dumbass about posting political content.

Bit dense, aren'tcha? Or maybe just engaging in taqiyya?

The Swat Valley lynching was over Islamic blasphemy, a literal accusation of Quran-burning. The mob kidnapped him from the protecting of the police station, burned the station down, and burned the accused man's body after beating him to death.
Granted, putting Ilhan Omar in a sexy superheroine costume with huge breasts might not be as bad as that, but it's still quite haram, and I wouldn't want to find out how bad it is in a room of Omar's core voting bloc from Minneapolis.

And you continue to be wrong:
The Feeding Our Future involved FORTY-EIGHT people charged. All but five of them were Somali residents of the Greater Mpls area - you can tell by the names. Three of them were Ethiopian or Eritrean. Again, you can easily tell by the names. And two of them were the ringleaders of the scam: Aimee Bock and Sharon Ross.

Them's the facts, Emboldener. (that's a great villain name, by the way. He could be a right-wing demagogue who spurs Deplorables to action.
Like Firecracker.)

[NotUv2]

Bit dense, aren'tcha? Or maybe just engaging in taqiyya?

The funny bit is, I actually am never trying to lure you into displays of outright racism. You just always do it to yourself, like Sideshow Bob with the multiple rakes in that Cape Fear episode of the Simpsons.

The cops who tried to defend the victim from the mob were also Muslims. So are the people prosecuting the mob. So was the mob's victim. Muslims are not an Indistinct Brown Smear of Evil, they're just people. Your attempt to fold "Somalis in Minneapolis" into the Swat Valley incident is much like people who harass random synagogues over events in Gaza. It's bare-faced and very stupid racism and you just... go there. Without fail. Every time. (The obsession with "taqiyya" is a super-dead giveaway, by the by. It's clear that you've heard about this through the tendentious filter of other racists but have no clue about what it actually means.)

That's a you problem. I'm not making you do it or tricking you into it. And you should probably work on that.

The Feeding Our Future involved FORTY-EIGHT people charged.

Varying numbers of people at various points in the case. Fifty-nine at one point. At the end of the process, about a dozen, seven of whom were actually convicted. Point being, none of the numbers add up to "the Somalis in Minneapolis." Right? You are aware that there are more than a few dozen Somalis in Minneapolis? Yes, you are.

[NotUv2]

Anyway, let's leave shevek to his undisguised Islamophobia and talk about The Boys. B/c there's something noteworthy about evil-Superman stories (including but not limited to this one), or at least something that I've noticed.

The actual DC universe is replete with heroes who are as powerful as, or more powerful than, Superman, who also has weaknesses. The Martian Manhunter has Superman's basic suite of powers with the addition of the abilities of shapeshifting, turning incorporeal and transmogrifying parts of himself to diamond. The Flash is faster than Superman and can punch people with the power of a white dwarf star. Firestorm can reorganize matter at a molecular level and basically create Kryptonite out of anything. Dr. Manhattan is now an official part of the DC universe and is basically omnipotent. The Specter has the powers of a god, the Phantom Stranger is a weirdly omniscient magician, Dr. Fate is the universe's analogue of Dr. Strange (Supes has no real counter to magic), Wonder Woman can injure him with her sword (which presumably means she could kill him with sufficient motivation).

In evil-Superman stories, why is it that there is never anyone in-universe -- at least among the story's protagonists -- who can really challenge him?

The closest it came in THE BOYS was the three-on-one confrontation with Soldier Boy and V-ed up versions of Hughie and Butcher, and the best they could manage was forcing Homelander to retreat. (Soldier Boy could perhaps have killed him with the self-detonation power, but that scenario doesn't play out.) In INVINCIBLE, Omni-Man cannot be realistically challenged by any hero on Earth: his only weakness is to Emotional Damage and to other Viltrumites. In INJUSTICE, nobody who should realistically be able to stop evil-Superman actually stops him.

Interesting data point. I'm not sure what to make of it, maybe it's just that the thought experiment is all about making the incarnation of virtue into an Unstoppable Evil. But it's something I've noticed.

[jlocke]

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I'm sending out my thoughts and prayers in this dark time to all those hypothetical right wing punk rockers who have been censored.


Hope is willing to take off her clothes to stop the politics. What are you willing to do?



In the comics Dark Noir is a clone of Homelander and that's how they finally kill him. In the TV show, the 2 avenues for taking down Homelander that are available right now are the virus and Ryan. Butcher has the scientist that created the anti-supe virus. It's not out of the question for they boys to use something like the Soviet enhanced Soldier Boy power to take Starlight and Kamiko's power's away and then release the virus. All the supes die and the world is finally "safe".

The other option is convincing Ryan to actually try to help people, break away from Homelander, then a nice Rocky IV training montage. Final fight. Butcher sacrifices himself to save Ryan. Homelander killed. Heroes limp off into the sunset.

Since Ryan is the first natural born Supe he has the chosen one plot. It's very difficult for writers to not play that out. He brings supes and non-supes(I'm not calling them normals, what's the terminology here?) because he's the Jesus/Anakin/Potter and it's his destiny.

But they could always pull a wild card. Ryan might not be the only natural born supe. Ryan and Newman's daughter might team up. They set up the idea that a nuke could kill soldier boy, possible Homelander missile silo trap with Hughie or Starlight sacrificing themselves. I feel strongly that there's going to be some sacrifices coming soon.

[NotUv2]

Since Ryan is the first natural born Supe he has the chosen one plot. It's very difficult for writers to not play that out. He brings supes and non-supes(I'm not calling them normals, what's the terminology here?) because he's the Jesus/Anakin/Potter and it's his destiny.

Interesting point.

But they could always pull a wild card. Ryan might not be the only natural born supe. Ryan and Newman's daughter might team up. They set up the idea that a nuke could kill soldier boy, possible Homelander missile silo trap with Hughie or Starlight sacrificing themselves. I feel strongly that there's going to be some sacrifices coming soon.

Also interesting, and I tend to agree.

[Mr. X]

Since Ryan is the first natural born Supe he has the chosen one plot. It's very difficult for writers to not play that out. He brings supes and non-supes(I'm not calling them normals, what's the terminology here?) because he's the Jesus/Anakin/Potter and it's his destiny.

He is? Homeland was natural born. Ryans mom is just a human just like HL mom supposedly (we never found out who she was did we)?
So they were both born the same way.

But they could always pull a wild card. Ryan might not be the only natural born supe. Ryan and Newman's daughter might team up. They set up the idea that a nuke could kill soldier boy, possible Homelander missile silo trap with Hughie or Starlight sacrificing themselves. I feel strongly that there's going to be some sacrifices coming soon.

QM stuck a ball point pen through his ear. Not exactly indestructible. And I get the show has zilch for budget but SB was able to put bruise on HL and it wasn't an Invincible level fight. QM even cut his lip. So I doubt one needs a nuke. Probably just over whelm him with fire power and make sure he can't fly off.

[jlocke]

Since Ryan is the first natural born Supe he has the chosen one plot. It's very difficult for writers to not play that out. He brings supes and non-supes(I'm not calling them normals, what's the terminology here?) because he's the Jesus/Anakin/Potter and it's his destiny.

He is? Homeland was natural born. Ryans mom is just a human just like HL mom supposedly (we never found out who she was did we)?
So they were both born the same way.

But they could always pull a wild card. Ryan might not be the only natural born supe. Ryan and Newman's daughter might team up. They set up the idea that a nuke could kill soldier boy, possible Homelander missile silo trap with Hughie or Starlight sacrificing themselves. I feel strongly that there's going to be some sacrifices coming soon.

QM stuck a ball point pen through his ear. Not exactly indestructible. And I get the show has zilch for budget but SB was able to put bruise on HL and it wasn't an Invincible level fight. QM even cut his lip. So I doubt one needs a nuke. Probably just over whelm him with fire power and make sure he can't fly off.

Homelander was a test tube baby. Soldier Boy's sperm, I thought they used Crimson Countess' egg, but I'll have to rewatch season 3. The embryo was put in a young girl the head scientist paid. Then the fetus was given the V treatment that the other supes get only once they're born. Homelander is the first fetus doused supe that survives. He uses his laser vision to slice open his surrogate mom and then floats into the air, umbilical cord still attached. Then lasered 2 scientist.

Ryan was conceived without any V. He didn't receive any in utero. He's the first supe to be a supe without any V. And he's the union of a supe and a regular human.

*edit - fetus for embryo

[Mr. X]

Homelander was a test tube baby. Soldier Boy's sperm, I thought they used Crimson Countess' egg, but I'll have to rewatch season 3. The embryo was put in a young girl the head scientist paid. Then the embryo was given the V treatment that the other supes get only once they're born. Homelander is the first embryo doused supe that survives. He uses his laser vision to slice open his surrogate mom and then floats into the air, umbilical cord still attached. Then lasered 2 scientist.

Ryan was conceived without any V. He didn't receive any in utero. He's the first supe to be a supe without any V. And he's the union of a supe and a regular human.

Yeah but than means Ryan is less since his mother is merely a human female with no powers. Ok yeah I guess that's a natural birth.

[NotUv2]

Yeah but than means Ryan is less since his mother is merely a human female with no powers. Ok yeah I guess that's a natural birth.

At one point, Homelander actually states that he thinks Ryan would have been much more powerful if he'd been conceived with a fellow V-ed up superhero instead of a mere mortal. Whether Homelander is right about this is a whole other question.

[CIA]

I came here to see hot girls with tight waists, sexy asses and big tits dressed up in tight fitting clothes maybe fighting each other, maybe fucking each other, getting fucked, and maybe getting really really messy. And what do I see? Disgusting Jew hating racist Ilhan Omar in a supe costume? Get a grip guys!

[jlocke]

I came here to see hot girls with tight waists, sexy asses and big tits dressed up in tight fitting clothes maybe fighting each other, maybe fucking each other, getting fucked, and maybe getting really really messy. And what do I see? Disgusting Jew hating racist Ilhan Omar in a supe costume? Get a grip guys!

No, no. This is Hope. She's a new superheroine from Minnesota.

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[shevek]

I came here to see hot girls with tight waists, sexy asses and big tits dressed up in tight fitting clothes maybe fighting each other, maybe fucking each other, getting fucked, and maybe getting really really messy. And what do I see? Disgusting Jew hating racist Ilhan Omar in a supe costume? Get a grip guys!

You're right. We have two progressive 'baiters' here: a meme maker (JLocke) and a name-caller (NotUv2) . Let them have their fun, it's water off a duck's back.

I'm just waiting for Episode 6 to come out on Thursday.

[jlocke]

You're right. We have two progressive 'baiters' here: a meme maker (JLocke) and a name-caller (NotUv2) . Let them have their fun, it's water off a duck's back.

I'm just waiting for Episode 6 to come out on Thursday.

Now, now. Here I thought we were having a friendly conversation and you got to go and be all rude. Why, that hurts my feelings.

Quick question? Who's a name-caller?

We have two progressive 'baiters' here: a meme maker (Handsome and Innocent Jlocke) and a name-caller (Person with differing political opinion)

I even made this for you:

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But now, I don't know. I had some topless Gunner photos, and some sexy Mama Bear (guess who?) photos. And of course several more of NUQE. Her superpower by the way is she gets stronger as she gets angrier (I know very Hulk like) but, when she reaches maximum rage she screams and a huge energy discharge knocks out anyone close by. She's the strongest member of my new team of superheroines. Also changing Hope to Charity. More accurate I think. Charity is a healer and can temporarily boost the other superheroine's power levels, but it's very draining. Very strong, and a decent fighter. Gunner is the deadliest person alive with a sidearm, rifle, laser gun, etc. Very strong, not so smart, but an excellent soldier. Weakness is every time she fires a shot, she gets more and more excited until she has to stop firing and find a quick release to all that energy.

[NotUv2]

But now, I don't know. I had some topless Gunner photos, and some sexy Mama Bear (guess who?) photos. And of course several more of NUQE. Her superpower by the way is she gets stronger as she gets angrier (I know very Hulk like) but, when she reaches maximum rage she screams and a huge energy discharge knocks out anyone close by. She's the strongest member of my new team of superheroines. Also changing Hope to Charity. More accurate I think. Charity is a healer and can temporarily boost the other superheroine's power levels, but it's very draining. Very strong, and a decent fighter. Gunner is the deadliest person alive with a sidearm, rifle, laser gun, etc. Very strong, not so smart, but an excellent soldier. Weakness is every time she fires a shot, she gets more and more excited until she has to stop firing and find a quick release to all that energy.

Honestly I'm just here for your whole sub-mythos at this point. I guess b/c we're supposedly fellow "progressive baiters," whatever? Bring it TF on. I'm especially down for the Gunner concept, that's some truly classic SHIP material right there.

[NotUv2]

And what do I see? Disgusting Jew hating racist Ilhan Omar in a supe costume? Get a grip guys!

When people like this notice things like Ilhan Omar backing a resolution recognizing Israel as a democratic ally and get exercised about the open anti-Semitism of vicious cunts like Nick Fuentes, I'll give a shit what they think. Until that happens, kick rocks. *smooches*