The Boys Season 4

[shevek]

And what do I see? Disgusting Jew hating racist Ilhan Omar in a supe costume? Get a grip guys!

When people like this notice things like Ilhan Omar backing a resolution recognizing Israel as a democratic ally and get exercised about the open anti-Semitism of vicious cunts like Nick Fuentes, I'll give a shit what they think. Until that happens, kick rocks. *smooches*

She was going to be booted from one of the most powerful committees in Congress if she didn't.
She didn't exactly pull a Fetterman.

As for JLocke, I'm looking forward to the patriotic tight Australian flag costume you'll create for Fatima Payman, the Senator from Perth.

[sneakly]

How about we just watch the show? The creator has a bend to the left, it is pretty obvious (to me). We can all find a place to argue about other peoples offensive politics. You would think this being a fetish discussion board, everyone would be more interested discussing the fetish.

Why don't we drop the OC characters that aren't part of the show and politely agree to disagree and discuss only what is relevant to the episodes of the show? It is going to riff periodically about hypocrisy in politics, if the politics of the show are something you really want to rage about. Create a thread about the politics of the show, otherwise let's get back to Firecracker's camel toe and other, more important topics....

[jlocke]

The Peace Keepers are only here to keep the peace.

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I would dearly, dearly, truly and completely love if we could have a politics mega thread, politics subforum, anything! And then just keep the politics out of everything else. It's so fucking annoying. I have had strong political beliefs since the 8th grade. I'm very informed (but not obsessed) with U.S. politics. What I don't do, is mention it, advocate for it, and shove it down everyone else's throat.

I come here to enjoy sexy superheroines. Politics ruins that.

Firecracker is written to piss me off and make me hate her. But my dick is more powerful than my brain. Guys, please, start thinking with your dicks more. Be men. Let's fuck hot superheroine regardless of their evil, twisted political beliefs.

I would fuck this foul mouthed alt-right goddess into oblivion.

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[jlocke]

My girl delivers:

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What did I say? Even more cleavage this episode. I call bullshit on the cut away. I want to see that. Obviously. And another KO! Firecracker is doing all the heavy lifting this season.

[shevek]

What did I say? Even more cleavage this episode. I call bullshit on the cut away. I want to see that. Obviously. And another KO! Firecracker is doing all the heavy lifting this season.

Not all of the lifting. What about Ashley rubbing one out in her black latex domme outfit?
And Laddio the gimp? It's like a fetish video up in there! Complete with a Yacht Rock soundtrack.
And that safe word? Hilarious, and surely meant to trigger.

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And Episode 6 is absolutely drenched in woke wet dreams, but if you watch it, you'll find all of that out for yourself.

Meanwhile, what did you think about Firecracker fulfilling Homelander's fantasy?
You're right, I'm disappointed about the "cutaway", too. I thought The Boys was a hard R. They've shown full-on male nudity in the past - front and back. Why wouldn't they show a bit of what Firecracker does with her luscious tits?

[jlocke]

Not all of the lifting. What about Ashley rubbing one out in her black latex domme outfit?
And Laddio the gimp? It's like a fetish video up in there! Complete with a Yacht Rock soundtrack.
And that safe word? Hilarious, and surely meant to trigger.

Meanwhile, what did you think about Firecracker fulfilling Homelander's fantasy?
You're right, I'm disappointed about the "cutaway", too. I thought The Boys was a hard R. They've shown full-on male nudity in the past - front and back. Why wouldn't they show a bit of what Firecracker does with her luscious tits?

Ashley is really not my cup of tea. Nor the gimp. I was too worried for Hughie the whole time. Tech Knight as 50 shades of grey Batman is so weird. Even if it was Starlight or Firecracker tied up and tortured and raped. The whole cut a hole in the body to fuck is a bridge too far for me. We all have our limits I suppose.

We definitely need a brave superheroine producer to recreate Firecracker squirting milk on Homelander's face.

Or maybe an AI extended version of her unzipping.

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[Mr. X]

For a show with a lot, and I mean a lot, of sexual perversion there seems to be a lack of actual sexy female sexiness. But then we're not seeing a lot of male shirts off scenes either.

[shevek]

For a show with a lot, and I mean a lot, of sexual perversion there seems to be a lack of actual sexy female sexiness. But then we're not seeing a lot of male shirts off scenes either.

I think there's almost a fear or a disdain to do almost anything in a conventional way with this series. You know - conventional sexiness (the kind we saw constantly in the 70s through the 00s) without some kind of perverted twist. Everything just has to be "a bridge beyond" or "shock and awe".

It was like that in Garth Ennis' comics, too, but whereas Ennis probably just wanted to take "the ultimate piss" out of superheroes (like, several steps further than Watchmen) by making them look like tragically flawed assholes, the showrunners are doing it 100% in the service of their message.

I mean, who the hell in America says "the Church and the State are One"? That's what most Islamists believe, not the vast majority of Republicans, not even the billionaire ones. (and there are quite a lot of billionaire Dems, too)

And yes, I'm looking forward to a SHIP video where Homelander milks Firecracker in plain sight. Maybe Primal could step to the plate for that one.

[jlocke]

For a show with a lot, and I mean a lot, of sexual perversion there seems to be a lack of actual sexy female sexiness. But then we're not seeing a lot of male shirts off scenes either.

If I was in charge I would put boobs in the first minute, boobs through out, and end the show with boobs. However, I'm not sure how well the show would fair with a larger audience. Our fine collective of gentlemen gathered here notwithstanding.

But boobs are not a zero sum game. I would prefer a lot more female nudity in all shows, but just because there is male nudity, doesn't mean it's taking away from female nudity. I don't care how many times a guy takes his shirt off. I do care how little women take their shirts off, because I love boobs. I'm very pro-breast.

[jlocke]

I mean, who the hell in America says "the Church and the State are One"? That's what most Islamists believe, not the vast majority of Republicans, not even the billionaire ones. (and there are quite a lot of billionaire Dems, too)

Guy. You have an entire wing of the Republican party who PROUDLY call themselves Christian Nationalists. Half of your Supreme Court Justices believe in Christian Nationalism. How are you so ill informed about U.S. politics? America is a Christian nation. If you don't believe that, then maybe you should stop voting for people who not only believe that, but are actively working to make it happen.

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NUQE is very dissapointed that you don't pay more attention to her core beliefs. She believes in more than Jewish space lasers. She believe America is a Christian nation. Just like every other right wing nut.

[sneakly]

They are laying the politics on rather thick…

This season is very heavy with the fetish fuel. The supe orgy last season and the Deep’s sexual relationship were subtle by comparison. I think hoping to see Firecracker’s titties is a vain hope. We might luck out with having someone walking in on her riding HomeLander (or someone else, Sister Sage?).

Spoiler

Someone made a guess that Kessler was a hallucination a couple weeks back. They were spot on.

[shevek]

Yes, good prediction on the Kessler phantom!

I mean, who the hell in America says "the Church and the State are One"? That's what most Islamists believe, not the vast majority of Republicans, not even the billionaire ones. (and there are quite a lot of billionaire Dems, too)

Guy. You have an entire wing of the Republican party who PROUDLY call themselves Christian Nationalists. Half of your Supreme Court Justices believe in Christian Nationalism. How are you so ill informed about U.S. politics? America is a Christian nation. If you don't believe that, then maybe you should stop voting for people who not only believe that, but are actively working to make it happen.

Sorry, man, but your statement lacks nuance, plus please stop using those AI creations, they're not impressing anyone and they're mucking up the thread.

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/20 ... tionalism/

Here's a Pew Research poll from this year which finds that among Republican or Republican-leaning voters,
21% believe that America should be declared a Christian nation, (Christian nationalists)
50% believe that America should NOT be declared a Christian nation but should promote Christian moral values which are essentially Western moral values (most mainline conservatives)
20% believe that America should NOT be declared a Christian nation and should NOT promote Christian values (libertarians, I would imagine)
and...in addition...
So, the percentage of Republicans in the party who are Christian nationalists are, at most, one fifth.
And yet, The Boys depicted a room of rich people who were not only all Republican, but all Christian nationalist. That's hyperbolic. Many Republicans, in fact, want a government with less regulation and less legality.

Also, the poll says that 34% of DEMOCRATS also believe that America should NOT be declared a Christian nation but should promote Christian moral values. (mainstream Christian Democrats, including, I would assume, a fair amount of blacks and Latinos)

The difference between mainstream Republican and mainstream Democrat beliefs on the role of Christianity in American public life is only 16%!!!

Applying this to The Boys, the writers are flailing around, trying to use Supes as a metaphor for an oppressed class. But that metaphor just doesn't work, because an an oppressed class has no power, yet Supes have a lot of power. The Supes are actually an *elite*, not an oppressed minority at all. If they were oppressed, they wouldn't be able to hobnob with billionaires. They're so powerful that even a total fuckup like Webweaver can get on the list for the exclusive rich people's party.

You're welcome to tell me if I'm getting that wrong, though.

[NotUv2]

This season is very heavy with the fetish fuel. The supe orgy last season and the Deep’s sexual relationship were subtle by comparison. I think hoping to see Firecracker’s titties is a vain hope. We might luck out with having someone walking in on her riding HomeLander

Firecracker is plenty hot and even not having seen the latest ep yet, that sounds plausible.

Spoiler

Someone made a guess that Kessler was a hallucination a couple weeks back. They were spot on.

Huzzah! That was me! Can't wait to see the new ep now.

[Mr. X]

There does seem to be a theme about brain tumors.

[Maskripper]

Episode 6 really delivered for me!
The kinky BDSM basement of Bru... I mean ....Tek Knight.
Oh boy.
Some disgusting stuff
Some funny stuff
and a lot of kinky stuff :-)

And other than that the whole episode was highly entertaining for me as well.
Unlike some other episodes of the season....

[sneakly]

Too bad Firecracker didn’t get a turn as “sidekick”

[jlocke]

Sorry, man, but your statement lacks nuance, plus please stop using those AI creations, they're not impressing anyone and they're mucking up the thread.

You're welcome to tell me if I'm getting that wrong, though.

You are very wrong. My good friend Shevek has already requested several more of these amazing, sexy superheroines.

Madam Peacemaker says polls are notoriously accurate, and we should always believe them over our lying eyes and ears.

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And she says that you and the other alt-righties really should get to know the politicians you're voting for. Since the really, really accurate and non-fake news poll, which is clearly very accurate says that the people you're voting for aren't listening to you, because they are definitely trying very hard to make God Bless The USA into a Christian state.

Don't worry Shevek, Dignity will be appearing soon, based on your very great suggestions.

[jlocke]

Too bad Firecracker didn’t get a turn as “sidekick”

I'm so torn on this one. That scene was really tense. But I would love to see Firecracker tortured. Just more TBFE/Rye tortured not Kink.com on crack tortured.

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[CIA]

There are only 2 hot girls on this show now. Starlight and Firecrotch. How have none of you geniuses come up with a sexy AI cat fight scene between the two of them yet?

[jlocke]

There are only 2 hot girls on this show now. Starlight and Firecrotch. How have none of you geniuses come up with a sexy AI cat fight scene between the two of them yet?

Greetings fellow genius! Firecrotch? How dare you! Such disrespect. Looking down on her because of her trailer park looks and West Virginia accent. Typical elitist. I love her. And respect her Because of her Appalachian roots and country girl persona, not in spite of it.

Ok, about the catfight. My girl is not exactly at the same power level as Starlight. It's like a light weight boxer going against a heavy weight. So don't judge her too harshly.

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It is a little one sided. But my girl Firecracker really comes back in the second half!


*edit to to too

[jlocke]

Ok. Actually, she just gets her ass kicked.

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[shevek]

Ok. Actually, she just gets her ass kicked.

I was wondering about that, because in the next episode, during the Republicans party, Firecracker is there and looks just fine, not a scratch or a bandage on her anywhere. Starlight was able to toss Firecracker clear across that stage, which meant she has some level of augmented strength. Doesn't that mean when punching Firecracker, Starlight would have at least shattered her nose and/or jaw, especially after those continuous blows with all of that blood spewing out. And yet there's no evidence of that ever happening, even a short time later. Does Firecracker have special healing powers? I mean, does she really have any significant powers at all other than a gorgeous body and the ability to make little sparks which aren't even as good as those of Jubilee? I really want to like and enjoy this character, but it seems that she is almost the opposite of Homelander's OP - she's UP.
(under-powered)

[jlocke]

Ok. Actually, she just gets her ass kicked.

I was wondering about that, because in the next episode, during the Republicans party, Firecracker is there and looks just fine, not a scratch or a bandage on her anywhere. Starlight was able to toss Firecracker clear across that stage, which meant she has some level of augmented strength. Doesn't that mean when punching Firecracker, Starlight would have at least shattered her nose and/or jaw, especially after those continuous blows with all of that blood spewing out. And yet there's no evidence of that ever happening, even a short time later. Does Firecracker have special healing powers? I mean, does she really have any significant powers at all other than a gorgeous body and the ability to make little sparks which aren't even as good as those of Jubilee? I really want to like and enjoy this character, but it seems that she is almost the opposite of Homelander's OP - she's UP.
(under-powered)

Firecracker's strength level is about equal with Kimiko. They went toe to toe in Episode 2. Starlight is much stronger. Firecracker is tough though. She got bloodied, but nothing broken. Which is really lucky for Starlight. It was definitely assault. Firecracker can't compete with the strongest supes, but her real superpower is her belief in herself, and her ability to appear to genuinely believe the crazy conspiracy theories she spouts. With a platform as big as Vought News, Firecracker could be a force. Especially if she has Homelander's protection.

Pluck, courage, ability to rebound, belief in herself. Firecracker has much more to offer than maximum super strength.

She's got a great ass, a milky set of tits, and an amazing way with words.

After getting stabbed with KO Syringe by Starlight:

"You fucking whore."
-Firecracker

[sneakly]

I think Firecracker will eventually flip on HomeLander. She is going to become scared of him just like the other Supes.

[NotUv2]

Well, saw episode 6 (we regret the error), and... yeah. Wow. That Tech Knight thing. Yikes. The Boys does keep us on our toes enough that the sense of threat in that whole sequence (absurd and surreal though it is) really comes home. It's well done.

I also love the part where the Boys work out that torturing a masochist is pointless, so they instead torture him like a billionaire. That was funny.

The reveal with Kessler, and Butcher's reaction, was pretty fun as well.

[Dogfish]

For a show with a lot, and I mean a lot, of sexual perversion there seems to be a lack of actual sexy female sexiness. But then we're not seeing a lot of male shirts off scenes either.

They've been fairly clear from the outset they're going to skew towards male nakedness rather than women. Which is fair enough I guess. Naked women are literally everywhere, naked dudes are still a taboo. You show these writers a taboo they're going to build a character around it and stick it up on screen for like ten episodes at least.

[shevek]

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[shevek]

Well, saw episode 4, and... yeah. Wow. That Tech Knight thing. Yikes. The Boys does keep us on our toes enough that the sense of threat in that whole sequence (absurd and surreal though it is) really comes home. It's well done.

I also love the part where the Boys work out that torturing a masochist is pointless, so they instead torture him like a billionaire. That was funny.

The reveal with Kessler, and Butcher's reaction, was pretty fun as well.

You actually mean Episode 6.

Yes, the financial torture was funny, but mostly because it *already has a name*: FINDOM. Every time a BLM leader buys a mansion, TekKnight gets off from the pain of it! I guarantee you that the writers knew about this fetish, it's not exactly obscure anymore.

I know I requested that Jlocke stop making his AI characters, and that didn't work, but maybe I can appeal to you instead. Please stop using broad-brush terms like 'alt-right' to dismiss people's opinions such as mine. You don't have to be Christine Amanpour about things.

I'm definitely not alt-right. I'm a classic liberal - the kind of rights-and-equality liberal who existed before woke-ism destroyed it. I am pro-choice; I am pro-gay rights; I am pro pot legalization; and I am definitely a second-wave feminist. NONE of those things (or close to none) jibe with the 'alt-right' movement. So, please stop saying that, and let's reset the conversation back to the center. Right between Firecracker's tits. OK?

They've been fairly clear from the outset they're going to skew towards male nakedness rather than women. Which is fair enough I guess. Naked women are literally everywhere, naked dudes are still a taboo. You show these writers a taboo they're going to build a character around it and stick it up on screen for like ten episodes at least.

You're correct. Succinctly put. But the reason for it is wokeness. The term often used is 'subverting expectations'. Like when you're looking for cool light saber battles and you get lesbian space witches instead.

*Plus*, naked dudes are not what we're looking for when we watch things, the last I checked the name of this Forum.

[Mr. X]

A-Train saving MM - show needs more scenes like that. Someone using their powers to save someone. The trouble with this show is everyone with powers is a jerk or murderer. We don't see anyone just save people or help.

[shevek]

A-Train saving MM - show needs more scenes like that. Someone using their powers to save someone. The trouble with this show is everyone with powers is a jerk or murderer. We don't see anyone just save people or help.

The look of that little kid realizing he just met A-Train as his hero was saving a life was priceless, but at that same time, you could also parse it as a woke Kripke moment of the boy "seeing representation" in the hero. The fact that it could be read both ways is kind of what The Boys is about.

But you bring up an interesting scenario which must be thought through:
Couldn't A-Train just run through Homelander really quickly before he knew what was going on? I guess I'm not clear as to whether A-Train can do things like vibrate through hard solid substances like The Flash does. But if he can, he should be able to kill Homelander, no?

[jlocke]

I'm definitely not alt-right.

Guy. You are very alt-right. You're the very definition of alt-right. Why are you ashamed of it?

Here's a quick test:

If you've used the word 'Woke' within the last 24 hours and it wasn't a joke, you're alt-right.

If you've written the word 'Woke' and had the balls to post it without feeling a mountain of cringe fall upon your shoulders, you're alt-right.

If more than 1% of your posts contain the word 'Woke' and you're not quoting Shevek, you're definitely alt-right.

If you cannot shut the fuck up about Woke, Woke-ity, Woke, Woke, then you're alt-right.

The Peace Keepers encourage you to be more self-aware. They offer their tits to help you remember left from alt-right.

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[Mr. X]

A-Train saving MM - show needs more scenes like that. Someone using their powers to save someone. The trouble with this show is everyone with powers is a jerk or murderer. We don't see anyone just save people or help.

The look of that little kid realizing he just met A-Train as his hero was saving a life was priceless, but at that same time, you could also parse it as a woke Kripke moment of the boy "seeing representation" in the hero. The fact that it could be read both ways is kind of what The Boys is about.

But you bring up an interesting scenario which must be thought through:
Couldn't A-Train just run through Homelander really quickly before he knew what was going on? I guess I'm not clear as to whether A-Train can do things like vibrate through hard solid substances like The Flash does. But if he can, he should be able to kill Homelander, no?

Doubtful. HL is a brick wall and we don't see ATrain plowing through walls. Also what's her name can just explode his head. HL also has superspeed, maybe not as fast but he could grab A Train.

But I love the "How do we get into an alt right party" scene. I mean they are slathering this stuff on thick.

[Gregnew]

Does anyone else think this is just stupid? A lot of this plot makes no sense. And that ice rink disaster looked like something from Monty Python

i also think so

[sneakly]

I think A-Train has been realizing that he has been living a lie and is starting to want to be a real hero instead of the manufactured fake that Vought created. Doing the right thing and seeing the kid looking up to him for saving his father is an authentic moment. I don’t think it is “woke”

His crippled brother has been a real hero by trying to make his community better, while A-train has been running around in fake plastic armor, carelessly killing people like Huey’s girlfriend for no reason.

We don’t need to steep every moment of this show in current politics, all the characters are going to have there own arcs. A-train isn’t woke, he is just realizing he has been playing for the wrong team and after watching the three HomeLander fans get beaten to death, has realized there is more out there.

[CIA]

Ok. Actually, she just gets her ass kicked.


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Starlight wasn’t sexy at all. Haven’t seen so much as a leg from her this season. She’s gone full women’s libtard on the show. Too bad. She had potential. Firecrotch has a nice rack and decent ass. This could have really gone another way. Instead we had to be subjected to all the creepy gay scenes? Felt like I was closing my eyes the whole episode. The show has gone way downhill since Deep mouth fucked Annie in season one.

[shevek]

I'm definitely not alt-right.

Guy. You are very alt-right. You're the very definition of alt-right. Why are you ashamed of it?

Here's a quick test:

If you've used the word 'Woke' within the last 24 hours and it wasn't a joke, you're alt-right.

If you've written the word 'Woke' and had the balls to post it without feeling a mountain of cringe fall upon your shoulders, you're alt-right.

If more than 1% of your posts contain the word 'Woke' and you're not quoting Shevek, you're definitely alt-right.

If you cannot shut the fuck up about Woke, Woke-ity, Woke, Woke, then you're alt-right.

The Peace Keepers encourage you to be more self-aware. They offer their tits to help you remember left from alt-right.

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Your test fails precipitously. There are tons of classical old-school liberals who are not down with the woke train. You don't have to be 'alt-right' in the least to be sick of divisive philosophies like CRT. In fact, it was the 'woke' ideology which split the left in two in the first place. Second-wave feminism is not the same thing as fourth-wave feminism. Civil rights is not the same thing as intersectionalism. South Africa is not the same thing as Israel.

I'm not alt-right because I'm not a conservative. I'm a centrist/liberal. I'm not interested in your fake characters. Go take photos of real women in tight spandex costumes, or at least bother to actually draw what you conceive of, and then we'll talk.

I think A-Train has been realizing that he has been living a lie and is starting to want to be a real hero instead of the manufactured fake that Vought created. Doing the right thing and seeing the kid looking up to him for saving his father is an authentic moment. I don’t think it is “woke”

I said it could be read two ways, depending on who is reading it.

Also, that moment plays into the whole hero worship thing and how much of it is real and how much is corporate. Relating it to something here in Pittsburgh, it very much puts me to mind of that old NFL ad where the kid encounters Franco Harris in the tunnel exiting the stadium and he gives the kid his Coca-Cola (or Pepsi, I forget which). In the 'Training A-Train' movie, if you remember, he has a 'fake moment' where a kid looks up to him, but then he experiences a 'real moment' in real life exactly like that while saving MM. And in addition, you can throw in the 'representation' angle which I'm sure didn't escape the minds of writers like Kripke and his crew. So there's all that wrapped up in it.

[jlocke]

Ok. Actually, she just gets her ass kicked.


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Starlight wasn’t sexy at all. Haven’t seen so much as a leg from her this season. She’s gone full women’s libtard on the show. Too bad. She had potential. Firecrotch has a nice rack and decent ass. This could have really gone another way. Instead we had to be subjected to all the creepy gay scenes? Felt like I was closing my eyes the whole episode. The show has gone way downhill since Deep mouth fucked Annie in season one.

God I hate women's libtard.

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[sneakly]

I'm definitely not alt-right.

Guy. You are very alt-right. You're the very definition of alt-right. Why are you ashamed of it?

Here's a quick test:

If you've used the word 'Woke' within the last 24 hours and it wasn't a joke, you're alt-right.

If you've written the word 'Woke' and had the balls to post it without feeling a mountain of cringe fall upon your shoulders, you're alt-right.

If more than 1% of your posts contain the word 'Woke' and you're not quoting Shevek, you're definitely alt-right.

If you cannot shut the fuck up about Woke, Woke-ity, Woke, Woke, then you're alt-right.

The Peace Keepers encourage you to be more self-aware. They offer their tits to help you remember left from alt-right.

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Your test fails precipitously. There are tons of classical old-school liberals who are not down with the woke train. You don't have to be 'alt-right' in the least to be sick of divisive philosophies like CRT. In fact, it was the 'woke' ideology which split the left in two in the first place. Second-wave feminism is not the same thing as fourth-wave feminism. Civil rights is not the same thing as intersectionalism. South Africa is not the same thing as Israel.

I'm not alt-right because I'm not a conservative. I'm a centrist/liberal. I'm not interested in your fake characters. Go take photos of real women in tight spandex costumes, or at least bother to actually draw what you conceive of, and then we'll talk.

I think A-Train has been realizing that he has been living a lie and is starting to want to be a real hero instead of the manufactured fake that Vought created. Doing the right thing and seeing the kid looking up to him for saving his father is an authentic moment. I don’t think it is “woke”

I said it could be read two ways, depending on who is reading it.

Also, that moment plays into the whole hero worship thing and how much of it is real and how much is corporate. Relating it to something here in Pittsburgh, it very much puts me to mind of that old NFL ad where the kid encounters Franco Harris in the tunnel exiting the stadium and he gives the kid his Coca-Cola (or Pepsi, I forget which). In the 'Training A-Train' movie, if you remember, he has a 'fake moment' where a kid looks up to him, but then he experiences a 'real moment' in real life exactly like that while saving MM. And in addition, you can throw in the 'representation' angle which I'm sure didn't escape the minds of writers like Kripke and his crew. So there's all that wrapped up in it.

The ad you referred to also had a black child and a black athlete. You seem to imply that is some how “woke”. It used to be called “relatable”. A-train does represent a community that does need heros. Nichelle Nichols was thinking about leaving Star Trek and MLK called her and personally asked her to stay, because black women were never depicted as officers with real responsibilities.

Also, as for the story telling part, the Character he save FOR HIS FAMILY was black. Are you expecting the son, greatful for his father’s rescue to be white? That would have been weird. You are looking at this as if everything is about an agenda. There is an agenda, but they are selling a story… A black superhero is being marketed to and urban public. The phony movie within a movie has a white savior figure, a racist trope that goes all the way back to Tarzan.

Trump thinks blacks will vote for him because he sells sneakers and is a felon. The writers may have a point….

[NotUv2]

You actually mean Episode 6.

I stand corrected.

Yes, the financial torture was funny, but mostly because it *already has a name*: FINDOM.

I mean, there is a thing called Findom, and it's a form of masochism, but "findom" isn't about tying someone up and stealing their money, it's about the dom-sub dynamic of making them give it to you. Tech Knight might well be into findom, who knows? But he wasn't into that.

(And... good. Fuck that guy. The beat where we learned about his... um... hole proclivities in Gen V was comical, but this took it to some really dark places.)

I know I requested that Jlocke stop making his AI characters, and that didn't work, but maybe I can appeal to you instead. Please stop using broad-brush terms like 'alt-right' to dismiss people's opinions such as mine. You don't have to be Christine Amanpour about things.

Hilarious though it is that you actually think I'm somehow influencing what anyone else posts... I'm tired, and I've got a long week ahead. So, I'll just say bluntly (I'll put this in spoiler tags to try to limit further thread contamination):

Spoiler

- I think Jlocke is entirely right about how cringe your endless one-note wokephobic obsessions are, but that's not on account of me being here giving anyone marching orders. It's legit just how you look to people who don't have those obsessions. If you didn't know that, that is a you problem.

- I wouldn't call you "alt" anything, since it is long past time we simply called the far right what it is.

- Otherwise I am not part of the digression between you and the other poster and appealing to me to somehow protect you from the bad opinions of others will get you nowhere. You might just have to start conducting yourself in a way that doesn't earn the bad opinions.

- I particularly don't give the tenth part of a shit what you think about AI art posts, since AFAICS shitposting is most of what AI "art" is useful for at all.

Have a nice week.

[shevek]

The ad you referred to also had a black child and a black athlete. You seem to imply that is some how “woke”. It used to be called “relatable”

Also, as for the story telling part, the Character he save FOR HIS FAMILY was black. Are you expecting the son, greatful for his father’s rescue to be white? That would have been weird. You are looking at this as if everything is about an agenda. There is an agenda, but they are selling a story… A black superhero is being marketed to and urban public. The phony movie within a movie has a white savior figure, a racist trope that goes all the way back to Tarzan.

It's both relatable (in an older-school sense) *and* woke (in a postmodern sense). You can look at it BOTH ways and still be correct. That was my point. That's why the writing is good, because the writers can have their agenda (which you admitted that they have!) and ALSO have a good show, which isn't always possible when the agenda dominates too much. And yes, they injected Will Ferrell in there as the white savior (e.g. White Shadow, remember him?) on purpose to make fun of that very trope. It's sophisticated woke humor, which you don't get very often. Cake, and eat it too.

As for the kid, I think you're mistaken. MM's only offspring is a *daughter* (remember? the one who ran with the guy MM didn't like?).
When A-Train rolls up to the hospital with MM, he encounters a *random black kid* who idolizes him, not a kid who's related to the victim he just saved. At least, I'm pretty sure of that.

Another question, though: how the hell does Sister Sage survive a direct shot to the head?

[NotUv2]

Another question, though: how the hell does Sister Sage survive a direct shot to the head?

She actually explained that in an earlier episode. Her brain is the one part of her anatomy that constantly regenerates. At one point, she had The Deep lobotomize her for sex-play purposes by this rationale.

[Mr. X]

Spoiler

- I think Jlocke is entirely right about how cringe your endless one-note wokephobic obsessions are,

The reason we old timers have an "obsession" is we dealt with woke meddling in the past when it was the moral majority and the religious nutters pushing messages into everything and demanding all scripts include their talking points. Woke today are just the church ladies of the past. Yes a lot of liberals cringed and complained when some show had to stick a God message in something. Star Trek was under constant pressure by the MM to put God messages into the show.

This is what I see when I see woke stuff, just the moral majority all over again. And the MM also thought they were heroes.

And YES the biggest reason the sexy superheroine genre is so dry right now is cause WOKE and their "obsession" with the male gaze, and masculinity have ruined any sexy girl fun. They did more damage than the Moral Majority. At least under the MM we got Lynda Carter and Yvonne Craig. I don't need a bunch of busy body church ladies telling me what's acceptable or trying to fix me.

[shevek]

Another question, though: how the hell does Sister Sage survive a direct shot to the head?

She actually explained that in an earlier episode. Her brain is the one part of her anatomy that constantly regenerates. At one point, she had The Deep lobotomize her for sex-play purposes by this rationale.

Ah. I had totally forgotten that brain regeneration was her power, and I even saw that sex scene. Thanks for the reminder!

That leads me to two questions: if she is by far the smartest person in the world, which the comics cannot explain, because she is not in the comics, then why is her brain just regular size - why doesn't she have an enlarged brain and cranial case like The Leader? And instead of retreating into a roomful of books, why hasn't she used her genius to give herself a lot more powers, or at least a lot more technological augmentation to her body or a power suit? I'm thinking of the likes of Tony Stark and Ozymandias. I mean, as a Seven member, she potentially has all the resources of Vought at her disposal, yet she is just standing around subverting protests and looking bored at cocktail parties?

And also, do you think it's possible that Sage could die in a future episode when her brain grows out of control and explodes through her skull?
That would be a typical Boys thing to happen, but I don't know if the writers would do it because they wouldn't want to be lambasted for killing a black female genius. But if I were a writer concocting the idea of a "virus that kills only Supes, by attaching to the Compound V in the blood", I would have the effects of that virus be a massive overload of that particular person's powers, killing not only them but perhaps everyone around them. Now, that would be dramatic stuff.

[bushwackerbob]

"God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference". This is how I look at television shows. If the politics are too much for me, I won't watch, but if I choose to watch, I am on some level embracing the content creator's vision and political view of the world, and I am OK with that, I accept that Faustian bargain.

[jlocke]

Another question, though: how the hell does Sister Sage survive a direct shot to the head?

She actually explained that in an earlier episode. Her brain is the one part of her anatomy that constantly regenerates. At one point, she had The Deep lobotomize her for sex-play purposes by this rationale.

Ah. I had totally forgotten that brain regeneration was her power, and I even saw that sex scene. Thanks for the reminder!

That leads me to two questions: if she is by far the smartest person in the world, which the comics cannot explain, because she is not in the comics, then why is her brain just regular size - why doesn't she have an enlarged brain and cranial case like The Leader? And instead of retreating into a roomful of books, why hasn't she used her genius to give herself a lot more powers, or at least a lot more technological augmentation to her body or a power suit? I'm thinking of the likes of Tony Stark and Ozymandias. I mean, as a Seven member, she potentially has all the resources of Vought at her disposal, yet she is just standing around subverting protests and looking bored at cocktail parties?

And also, do you think it's possible that Sage could die in a future episode when her brain grows out of control and explodes through her skull?
That would be a typical Boys thing to happen, but I don't know if the writers would do it because they wouldn't want to be lambasted for killing a black female genius. But if I were a writer concocting the idea of a "virus that kills only Supes, by attaching to the Compound V in the blood", I would have the effects of that virus be a massive overload of that particular person's powers, killing not only them but perhaps everyone around them. Now, that would be dramatic stuff.

Brain size does not always equate with higher intelligence. Otherwise Andre the Giant would have been Nobel Prize winner Dr. The Giant. Einstein's brain wasn't larger or pushing against his skull. It did appear to have a much larger pre-frontal cortex. Brain size does matter overall, but brain complexity, especially the pre-frontal cortex, matters much more.

[Mr. X]

https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/t ... versy.html
So when it was Starlight (not even being forced but just blackmailed) into giving the deep a blow job Kripke goes out of his way to be sensitive. But when its Hughie literally tied to a table and forced against his will - its hilarious and lets play it up for jokes.

And BTW, If Starlight is so desperate to give someone a BJ to get a glamor job then I'm not really feeling pity here. She wasn't tied to a table.

[jlocke]

https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/t ... versy.html
So when it was Starlight (not even being forced but just blackmailed) into giving the deep a blow job Kripke goes out of his way to be sensitive. But when its Hughie literally tied to a table and forced against his will - its hilarious and lets play it up for jokes.

And BTW, If Starlight is so desperate to give someone a BJ to get a glamor job then I'm not really feeling pity here. She wasn't tied to a table.

Hey dude. Can I get real with you for minute. You're a really intelligent person who seems trapped in a MAN vs WOMAN argument. It's not a zero sum game. If WOMEN win, then MEN don't always lose. The reverse is also true. Some men are dumb as fuck. Some men are smart. Some women are conservative trad wives. Some women are blue haired lesbian feminazis. Men good, women bad gets a little old. I remember the 70's, and I've seen lots of movies and TV from the 60's. Loved the 80's but not as cool as all the nostalgia. Men ruled. Tits everywhere. Where can we work in a tit shot in this movie?

Right now in the 20's, the pendulum has swung the other way. Can we get an ass shot of the hot guy please? The audience loves it. Eventually the pendulum will swing again and women will want to be portrayed as powerful sexually liberated people, and we'll get a lot more tits in our movies again. May I live long enough to witness the glorious Breast Awakening of the 30's.

I personally have a lot sympathy for a person who worked their whole life to reach a really difficult career goal, only to have someone who she thought had an enormous amount of power over her, tell her to suck his dick or he'll lie and get her kicked out of her dream job.

I was tense and uneasy the entire time Huey was in the dungeon. I really felt, weird. It was a ridiculous and yet somehow very powerful scene. I really don't care what the producers, writers, etc. have to say about any show unless I'm desperate for more lore. I can make up my own mind about what I see and hear.

Just because it was horrible for Huey to be raped and tortured, shouldn't negate the horribleness of Starlight being coerced into giving The Deep a blowjob.

But that's only if we're treating all this like real life. In sexy superheroine fantasy world, forcing a hot blonde goody two shoes, holy than thou, superheroine to suck a dick to keep her position on a Superhero team, that's fucking hot. My dick just moved typing that. Superheroine Producers! Get on this scenario. No I cannot currently pay for the custom. My apologies.

Let's maybe lighten the mood a little with a sexy superheroine:

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[Mr. X]

Just because it was horrible for Huey to be raped and tortured, shouldn't negate the horribleness of Starlight being coerced into giving The Deep a blowjob.

I just want consistent rules and I also want some kinky fun back. No its not about turns. We can have both.

[jlocke]

Starlight's Ass

Keeping in mind that this is the shape shifter and not the real Annie. Is it Erin Moriarty's ass, a body double's ass, or an CGI/AI ass? Look closely.

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[NotUv2]

So when it was Starlight (not even being forced but just blackmailed) into giving the deep a blow job Kripke goes out of his way to be sensitive. But when its Hughie literally tied to a table and forced against his will - its hilarious and lets play it up for jokes.

Ridiculously off-target read. That sequence with Hughie was fucking terrifying, esp. b/c we know the creative team has the stones to follow through on the worst-case scenario.

Jlocke has right of this one. Don't try to boil every goddamned thing down into a zero-sum Men vs. Women game. It's not interesting and not accurate.

(A lot like your standard "the Woke are the Church Ladies and the Moral Majority" schtick, demonstrably absurd in the actual world we are living in, which is why you're ludicrously and hilariously defensive every time someone actually refers to the actual world and to who is doing what therein).