Captain America and whatever its subtitle is this week.

[Mr. X]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQiVyUWCw9c

Getting close to $500mil due to reshoots. Had to be reshot cause it was too "preachy".

[Dogfish]

Why does anybody care what these things cost? Why can't people be normal about movies?

[Visitor]

Costs are important to the studios, since the accountants need to adjust the books to reduce payments to those getting a percentage.

"You can make more money with a flop than a hit." - Leo Bloom in "The Producers"

[Mr. X]

Why does anybody care what these things cost? Why can't people be normal about movies?

I think there are some money laundering shenanigans going on. When I worked in the gambling industry rumor was China laundered money through casinos.

[shevek]

I think there are some money laundering shenanigans going on. When I worked in the gambling industry rumor was China laundered money through casinos.

If there can be corruption with $1.5 billion doled out in a presidential campaign, and billions wasted in bureaucracy or bribes to government officials etc, then I don't see why the mainstream movie industry wouldn't be the same way, if to a smaller extent. Cronies get monies.

Anyway, after hearing all about the problems this movie has gone through, and the lackluster casting and characters (Harrison Ford as a Hulk? A tiny little woman playing not-Sabra?) there's no reason I'd want to see this in theaters. Will catch it on the waves.

The only reason I would have been excited about this movie would have been if they put the actual Sabra in something close to the tight costume she had in 1980s comics when she was sexy and powerful. I don't think that's going to happen so I'm out.

[CIA]

I enjoyed the Winter Solider mini series a lot but the thought of the non-superpowerered mechanical wings guy (Sam?) playing the Captain really rubs me the wrong way. Perhaps it's just bad karma for Marvel for messing with a legendary character that has been around for decades.

[Dazzle1]

I am a D.C guy, but I want two things

I want Steve Rogers and I want an Israeli superheroine

[Malice]

Why does anybody care what these things cost? Why can't people be normal about movies?

Live and let live!

People who’ve worked in the industry or get how movies are made care about stuff like that because it gives a hint at what's going on behind the scenes.

It’s not just random trivia, it means something was wrong, or at the very least, needed fixing. A third round of reshoots is never a good omen, as it turns out.

I really like Anthony Mackie and I would be extremely happy and surprised if Cap 4 turned out not to be a dud. But I doubt it.

I was an Israeli superheroine

[shevek]

I really like Anthony Mackie and I would be extremely happy and surprised if Cap 4 turned out not to be a dud. But I doubt it.

Not to go on a total tangent, but...

You should check out the new sci-fi thriller Elevation that Mackie co-stars in, with a strong smart woman of course, who provides no romance.
Weird premise which could easily be poked full of holes. Unfortunately, it's probably not going to do well enough to get sequels, like 'A Quiet Place' did, of which it is a little bit reminiscent.

[Malice]

I really like Anthony Mackie and I would be extremely happy and surprised if Cap 4 turned out not to be a dud. But I doubt it.

Not to go on a total tangent, but...

You should check out the new sci-fi thriller Elevation that Mackie co-stars in, with a strong smart woman of course, who provides no romance.
Weird premise which could easily be poked full of holes. Unfortunately, it's probably not going to do well enough to get sequels, like 'A Quiet Place' did, of which it is a little bit reminiscent.

It looks like a solid 5/10 experience.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to trash it. I actually mean this in a positive way.

What I'm saying is it seems like the perfect movie for a Sunday: a simple premise, an actor I enjoy, and a flick that might help me escape reality for 90 minutes.

I don't really mind the "girl boss" attitude in and of itself, and I get the feeling you don't either. But let's be honest, we're both probably just tired of seeing it in every single movie.

The reason I'll watch Elevation is Anthony Mackie. The reason I'll skip Captain America 4 has nothing to do with him. (Although I never understood why they moved away from Sebastian Stan as Cap...)

[Mr. X]

Or why it can't be Falcon - Brave New World.

[shevek]

Or why it can't be Falcon - Brave New World.

Because Falcon is not an A-list character in the comics.

[Mr. X]

Or why it can't be Falcon - Brave New World.

Because Falcon is not an A-list character in the comics.

Neither was Deadpool actually.

[ThatOnePervert]

Or why it can't be Falcon - Brave New World.

I like Falcon more than most and even I wouldn't trust his name to carry a movie.

[shevek]

More gaslighting from Marvel. Producer Nate Moore says that the changes to Ruth Bat-Seraph aren't supposedly what people expect from what's being said online.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/c ... r-AA1yB12V

Here's what we expect from what's being said online:

- She won't be called Sabra, and she won't be wearing the tight Sabra costume.
- She possibly won't have powers, and thus won't be a mutant.
- She won't be working for Israel, but rather for the US Govt. (only thing Israeli about her is her name. Why is an Israeli working for the US Govt?)
- She will be played by Shira Haas, who is 5 foot 1 and frankly not that attractive per se. (see photos below, from red carpet and movie)

We already knew these things. Thus, Nate Moore is lying.

So what if she also happens to be a product of the Red Room? What is that, the MCU's only possible answer to imbue a female character with confidence and combat skill? Who cares? Adding that to the mix changes absolutely nothing. Character was ruined by politics and terrible casting.

Another thing that I noticed in this article is that "Sam and Ruth disagree on whether Thaddeus Ross is a good president". So "Thunderbolt Ross" is not just an arrogant general, he's also the President? The President turns into Red Hulk? And you're going to tell me that is no coincidence with relevance to the real world? (Not to mention a terrible plot twist. I mean, who is the Vice President waiting in the wings to take over when the President becomes a rampaging monster?)

Let's start a movement to impeach President Ross before it's too late! (ha ha)

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[Dazzle1]

More gaslighting from Marvel. Producer Nate Moore says that the changes to Ruth Bat-Seraph aren't supposedly what people expect from what's being said online.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/c ... r-AA1yB12V

Here's what we expect from what's being said online:

- She won't be called Sabra, and she won't be wearing the tight Sabra costume.
- She possibly won't have powers, and thus won't be a mutant.
- She won't be working for Israel, but rather for the US Govt. (only thing Israeli about her is her name. Why is an Israeli working for the US Govt?)
- She will be played by Shira Haas, who is 5 foot 1 and frankly not that attractive per se. (see photos below, from red carpet and movie)

We already knew these things. Thus, Nate Moore is lying.

So what if she also happens to be a product of the Red Room? What is that, the MCU's only possible answer to imbue a female character with confidence and combat skill? Who cares? Adding that to the mix changes absolutely nothing. Character was ruined by politics and terrible casting.

Another thing that I noticed in this article is that "Sam and Ruth disagree on whether Thaddeus Ross is a good president". So "Thunderbolt Ross" is not just an arrogant general, he's also the President? The President turns into Red Hulk? And you're going to tell me that is no coincidence with relevance to the real world? (Not to mention a terrible plot twist. I mean, who is the Vice President waiting in the wings to take over when the President becomes a rampaging monster?)

Let's start a movement to impeach President Ross before it's too late! (ha ha)

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The fact is the MCU decided to take the Israeli identity to satisfy the racists in the outside U.S markets

This is not a political statement but a fact much of the non Western World and some of the Western World is racist towards Jews. Why do you think the only major spy agency never in a Bond film has been Mossad

[bushwackerbob]

Why does anybody care what these things cost? Why can't people be normal about movies?

I think there is being a fan of films, and then there are those who have a fascination with how the sausage is made, the background of how a film is made, whether it is greenlit, what's the budget, how successful will a film be within that allocated budget. Plus, in this age where everything gets a sequel, a film's budget debacle can affect whether there is another iteration of that film. You can be a fan of films, and also have an interest in the business of how films are made.

[nullbrawl]

I completely agree! Being a fan of films, it is beyond just enjoying the story; It is attractive to the effects of financial success on production budget, greenlighting and future projects such as dive into aspects of back scenes. Understanding the commercial side adds a whole new layer of appreciation to how films are made and their success (or failure) industry shaped.

[Dogfish]

Why does anybody care what these things cost? Why can't people be normal about movies?

I think there is being a fan of films, and then there are those who have a fascination with how the sausage is made, the background of how a film is made, whether it is greenlit, what's the budget, how successful will a film be within that allocated budget. Plus, in this age where everything gets a sequel, a film's budget debacle can affect whether there is another iteration of that film. You can be a fan of films, and also have an interest in the business of how films are made.

But most of these folks hate the finished product either way.

It's like, if I don't think I'm going to like a movie, I don't research it in detail about it's cast and it's budget and so on, I just don't watch it. And maybe I take the piss a bit but that's it.

[Mr. X]

But most of these folks hate the finished product either way.

It's like, if I don't think I'm going to like a movie, I don't research it in detail about it's cast and it's budget and so on, I just don't watch it. And maybe I take the piss a bit but that's it.

One issue is if crappy movies keep getting made and nobody sees them then they won't be made anymore so we won't get a chance at a good movie. There is no reason this can't be good. This isn't a buffet table. Limited money and resources means stinker genres will die off.

If a Godzilla movie can be made for like $50mil and its good then they can make good content.

[bushwackerbob]

Why does anybody care what these things cost? Why can't people be normal about movies?

I think there is being a fan of films, and then there are those who have a fascination with how the sausage is made, the background of how a film is made, whether it is greenlit, what's the budget, how successful will a film be within that allocated budget. Plus, in this age where everything gets a sequel, a film's budget debacle can affect whether there is another iteration of that film. You can be a fan of films, and also have an interest in the business of how films are made.

But most of these folks hate the finished product either way.

It's like, if I don't think I'm going to like a movie, I don't research it in detail about it's cast and it's budget and so on, I just don't watch it. And maybe I take the piss a bit but that's it.

That's certainly true. It's a social media thing, there are professional haters who like to pile on and crap on a movie. I don't understand that aspect either, almost gleefully rooting for a film to fail.

[Dazzle1]

Mackie has been taking PR lessons from Bree Larsen and Ncuti Gatwa

You would think with all the backlash, he might be smarter

Some Pro Hamas protested the movie because there is an Israeli actress.

Good thinking MCU appease racist Islamists and they will come to the movie

[shevek]

Just when you thought it couldn't possibly get any worse for this movie, it's been revealed that the shapely and attractive Rosa Salazar (from Alita Battle Angel) who was supposed to have played the gorgeous Diamondback (well known to fans of 90s Captain America comics) from the Serpent Society, was cut from the film. No hot females anywhere, not a one.

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And it looks like in addition to Shira Haas being too short and relatively unattractive for the part of Ruth Bat-Seraph (this has pretty much killed the chances of her returning in any other MCU movie), she eventually adopts the terrible-looking monk haircut with the austere straight bangs which many young activists are wearing nowadays. I was working security recently at a protest event and there were several women with a haircut just like this. Ugh.

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[Dogfish]

So, I watched it.

I have no idea where the Celestial Islands came from, guessing I missed that movie.

Adamantium now I thing I guess? (Not a spoiler it's just a McGuffin so far, but the name being dropped might matter).

Other than that, was okay I guess. Plot was very similar to Civil War but with none of the star power in the cast so it was a very meh.

Cool villain, well acted, but I was not ready to see Harrison Ford looking this old. And I get it's as old as he is. Still though, time is a bastard.

I think Marvel might be cooked. Not because of 'wokeness', it's just a bit bland at this point. No pressure on Fantastic Four or anything but... Yeah. A lot riding on that.

[bushwackerbob]

So, I watched it.

I have no idea where the Celestial Islands came from, guessing I missed that movie.

Adamantium now I thing I guess? (Not a spoiler it's just a McGuffin so far, but the name being dropped might matter).

Other than that, was okay I guess. Plot was very similar to Civil War but with none of the star power in the cast so it was a very meh.

Cool villain, well acted, but I was not ready to see Harrison Ford looking this old. And I get it's as old as he is. Still though, time is a bastard.

I think Marvel might be cooked. Not because of 'wokeness', it's just a bit bland at this point. No pressure on Fantastic Four or anything but... Yeah. A lot riding on that.

I saw Harrison Ford on the Yellowstone prequel "1923", and yeah, he looks older than dirt, but the guy can still act and perform at a high level. Ford is still awesome.

[Mr. X]

So, I watched it.

I have no idea where the Celestial Islands came from, guessing I missed that movie.

Adamantium now I thing I guess? (Not a spoiler it's just a McGuffin so far, but the name being dropped might matter).

Other than that, was okay I guess. Plot was very similar to Civil War but with none of the star power in the cast so it was a very meh.

Cool villain, well acted, but I was not ready to see Harrison Ford looking this old. And I get it's as old as he is. Still though, time is a bastard.

I think Marvel might be cooked. Not because of 'wokeness', it's just a bit bland at this point. No pressure on Fantastic Four or anything but... Yeah. A lot riding on that.

Celestial Islands came from the Eternals movie.

Spoiler

US going to war with Japan? Really? China makes a much better adversary but then the movie couldn't play in china.

I doubt this movie will do well in china. No hot chic appeal and they don't exactly jump up and down for black actors. Doubt this thing ever will break even.

[Lurkndog]

The movie pulled in $100 million over the long weekend. So at least it's not a box office bomb.

Word of mouth is tepid to poor, though. The strongest recommendation I've encountered is "I had a good time."

And their strongest competition was a third Paddington Bear movie that I honesty didn't know was even being made.

I'd expect them to hold pretty well for next weekend, given that there is again no competition.

And, to give them their due, there's a reason why they don't have any competition: nobody wants to release a movie opposite a potential Marvel juggernaut.

They've got a long way to go to break even, though. It is entirely possible that Thunderbolts will make more profit, just because it was made on a reasonable budget in the first place.

[Dogfish]

So, I watched it.

I have no idea where the Celestial Islands came from, guessing I missed that movie.

Adamantium now I thing I guess? (Not a spoiler it's just a McGuffin so far, but the name being dropped might matter).

Other than that, was okay I guess. Plot was very similar to Civil War but with none of the star power in the cast so it was a very meh.

Cool villain, well acted, but I was not ready to see Harrison Ford looking this old. And I get it's as old as he is. Still though, time is a bastard.

I think Marvel might be cooked. Not because of 'wokeness', it's just a bit bland at this point. No pressure on Fantastic Four or anything but... Yeah. A lot riding on that.

Celestial Islands came from the Eternals movie.

Spoiler

US going to war with Japan? Really? China makes a much better adversary but then the movie couldn't play in china.

I doubt this movie will do well in china. No hot chic appeal and they don't exactly jump up and down for black actors. Doubt this thing ever will break even.

The USA has literally threatened to annex Canada, so I can buy them fighting anybody. Alliances don't mean anything.

I'm intrigued how well it'll do. It doesn't deserve to do very well, it's borrowing so many plot points from Civil War but it's not got the stacked cast and epic battle scenes. Or the whole philosophical and thematic stuff that was some of the best character work the series ever did.

It's got none of that. So. Yeah.

Weird thing is Civil War was a set up movie too. It's just that now what is being set up is like, so..?

[Dogfish]

The movie pulled in $100 million over the long weekend. So at least it's not a box office bomb.

Word of mouth is tepid to poor, though. The strongest recommendation I've encountered is "I had a good time."

And their strongest competition was a third Paddington Bear movie that I honesty didn't know was even being made.

I'd expect them to hold pretty well for next weekend, given that there is again no competition.

And, to give them their due, there's a reason why they don't have any competition: nobody wants to release a movie opposite a potential Marvel juggernaut.

They've got a long way to go to break even, though. It is entirely possible that Thunderbolts will make more profit, just because it was made on a reasonable budget in the first place.

I am more interested in Thunderbolts because it's got a better cast of characters. Feels like this is a sequel to the original Hulk movie and I'd almost written that off. I thought everybody else had too until whatsisname showed up in She-Hulk.

[Mr. X]

The movie pulled in $100 million over the long weekend. So at least it's not a box office bomb.

Word of mouth is tepid to poor, though. The strongest recommendation I've encountered is "I had a good time."

And their strongest competition was a third Paddington Bear movie that I honesty didn't know was even being made.

I'd expect them to hold pretty well for next weekend, given that there is again no competition.

And, to give them their due, there's a reason why they don't have any competition: nobody wants to release a movie opposite a potential Marvel juggernaut.

They've got a long way to go to break even, though. It is entirely possible that Thunderbolts will make more profit, just because it was made on a reasonable budget in the first place.

That $$$ could be cause there is literally nothing else out. Its boredom money. They could have put the Marvels out at this time and it would have made money.

[Lurkndog]

New articles are putting the movie's budget at $180 million, much less than the $350 to $500 million that was rumored.

At $180 million, they have a much better chance to break even.

[Dazzle1]

New articles are putting the movie's budget at $180 million, much less than the $350 to $500 million that was rumored.

At $180 million, they have a much better chance to break even.

The phrase Damage Control comes to mind

[Dogfish]

I've no idea where the budget went if it was as high as rumoured. The cast wouldn't be hugely expensive and even reshoots and effects stuff has a ceiling on how much it could reasonably cost. Nor was it massively hyped.

[Mr. X]

I've no idea where the budget went if it was as high as rumoured. The cast wouldn't be hugely expensive and even reshoots and effects stuff has a ceiling on how much it could reasonably cost. Nor was it massively hyped.

Oh yeah the cast would be expensive. And sets and crew etc. Plus delays cost.

But yeah I do question if a lot of this is money laundering. When I worked in the gambling/casino industry we knew about the chinese using casinos as pay out and money laundering schemes. In fact I wonder if the reshoots were really attempts to drive more business to overseas dev houses.

[Lurkndog]

Well second weekend they pulled in $28.2 Million domestic, a 68% drop.

If we believe the new budget number of $180 million, it is on track to break even.

[Freon]

I haven't seen this movie and don't know the gritty details of the premise, but it seems kind of superfluous and sad. Trying too hard not to offend anyone or be political, which the 2011 movie pioneered for the character. (It's really ironic that DIsney was so afraid of showing too much Nazi paraphernalia/imagery in First Avenger that Red Skull kills more actual Nazis than Cap.)

Captain America movies should be simple, even if they have to be self aware and meticulous about their simplicity. They can't even seem to do that right. Just pit Sam against Hydra. Repetitive, sure, but it definitely says something about the age old struggle of good and evil, and why good can't take a holiday lest evil just rise to power again.

[Malice]

I haven't seen this movie and don't know the gritty details of the premise, but it seems kind of superfluous and sad. Trying too hard not to offend anyone or be political, which the 2011 movie pioneered for the character. (It's really ironic that DIsney was so afraid of showing too much Nazi paraphernalia/imagery in First Avenger that Red Skull kills more actual Nazis than Cap.)

Captain America movies should be simple, even if they have to be self aware and meticulous about their simplicity. They can't even seem to do that right. Just pit Sam against Hydra. Repetitive, sure, but it definitely says something about the age old struggle of good and evil, and why good can't take a holiday lest evil just rise to power again.

I would have watched that, but I believe the script issues in this film are just part of a larger problem.

Nothing against Mackie, he's a great actor, but I always thought Bucky would get the shield eventually.

My biggest issue with the MCU is how disconnected it feels. The universe has never been more linked together, yet somehow everything feels all over the place. Most movies make sure their plot doesn’t really shake up the bigger story, which makes it harder to stay invested. After a while, it just starts to feel like none of it really matters.

The preaching is another thing. Comics have always tackled social issues (just look at the X-Men), but they used to do it with some subtlety. You were left to put the pieces together and draw your own conclusions. Now, it’s like they don’t trust the audience to get the message unless they spell it out.

At the end of the day, respecting the source material and trusting the audience go hand in hand.

If Mackie had been cast as Bucky from the start, I'd have no issue with him as Cap. But him going straight from Falcon to Cap never really felt earned, and when Endgame made it official, I was just kinda confused.

[Dogfish]

I've no idea where the budget went if it was as high as rumoured. The cast wouldn't be hugely expensive and even reshoots and effects stuff has a ceiling on how much it could reasonably cost. Nor was it massively hyped.

Oh yeah the cast would be expensive. And sets and crew etc. Plus delays cost.

But yeah I do question if a lot of this is money laundering. When I worked in the gambling/casino industry we knew about the chinese using casinos as pay out and money laundering schemes. In fact I wonder if the reshoots were really attempts to drive more business to overseas dev houses.

Who in that cast is expensive? Harrison Ford, sure, but then the rest are not big names. I don't think Anthony Mackey is on A-List money and nobody else in there is. The big cameo is only Bucky Barnes.

[Danorian]

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I would have watched that, but I believe the script issues in this film are just part of a larger problem.

Nothing against Mackie, he's a great actor, but I always thought Bucky would get the shield eventually.

My biggest issue with the MCU is how disconnected it feels. The universe has never been more linked together, yet somehow everything feels all over the place. Most movies make sure their plot doesn’t really shake up the bigger story, which makes it harder to stay invested. After a while, it just starts to feel like none of it really matters.

The preaching is another thing. Comics have always tackled social issues (just look at the X-Men), but they used to do it with some subtlety. You were left to put the pieces together and draw your own conclusions. Now, it’s like they don’t trust the audience to get the message unless they spell it out.

At the end of the day, respecting the source material and trusting the audience go hand in hand.

If Mackie had been cast as Bucky from the start, I'd have no issue with him as Cap. But him going straight from Falcon to Cap never really felt earned, and when Endgame made it official, I was just kinda confused.
[/quote]

The Five Year snap didn't help. I hate how hazardous the world could be for people returning from "dying". People in midair after returning to a spot with no plane anymore? People popping up in the middle of the street, posed like they were driving or riding in vehicles, getting run over by traffic? Was rock climbing and now your rope is gone? Pop up in a hospital, opened up for surgery, but no medical team to finish your surgery?

Just a brief sampler, but a showcase of the shoddy and silly writing of the idiots at Marvel Studios!

[Mr. X]

The Five Year snap didn't help. I hate how hazardous the world could be for people returning from "dying". People in midair after returning to a spot with no plane anymore? People popping up in the middle of the street, posed like they were driving or riding in vehicles, getting run over by traffic? Was rock climbing and now your rope is gone? Pop up in a hospital, opened up for surgery, but no medical team to finish your surgery?

Just a brief sampler, but a showcase of the shoddy and silly writing of the idiots at Marvel Studios!

Or some giant head sticking out of the ocean moving billions of tons of mass around.

Reminds me of Dragon Ball Z and Piccolo blows up the moon and there are no repercussions.

[Lurkndog]

Well, last weekend Mickey 17 finally pushed Cap out of the #1 spot.

Totals for Captain America Brave New World are up to $ 176.6 M domestic, $ 370.8 M worldwide.

Meh. I'm sure that it will make a profit after streaming. But it won't take them back to where they were before Endgame.

[Lurkndog]

CA:BNW pulled in $5 mil this weekend, yadda yadda yadda.

Surprisingly, Paddington Bear is still in the top 10 as well, pulling in $2 million. Watch your back, Cap!

[shevek]

Not trying to start anything, but this is the kind of thing you knew would eventually happen over a comic book character:

There was a protest at the Captain America: BNW opening with a couple dozen pro-Palestine types angry over the inclusion of the Sabra character and the actress from Israel who played her.

Then, more recently, the same kind of protest happened at Gal Gadot's Walk of Fame ceremony. It is what it is.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/g ... r-AA1BbvPx

[Dazzle1]

Not trying to start anything, but this is the kind of thing you knew would eventually happen over a comic book character:

There was a protest at the Captain America: BNW opening with a couple dozen pro-Palestine types angry over the inclusion of the Sabra character and the actress from Israel who played her.

Then, more recently, the same kind of protest happened at Gal Gadot's Walk of Fame ceremony. It is what it is.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/g ... r-AA1BbvPx

I am breaking the spirit of the forum

But these are pro Hamas terrorist racists

[shevek]

Not trying to start anything, but this is the kind of thing you knew would eventually happen over a comic book character:

There was a protest at the Captain America: BNW opening with a couple dozen pro-Palestine types angry over the inclusion of the Sabra character and the actress from Israel who played her.

Then, more recently, the same kind of protest happened at Gal Gadot's Walk of Fame ceremony. It is what it is.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/g ... r-AA1BbvPx

I am breaking the spirit of the forum

But these are pro Hamas terrorist racists

Well then, don't break the spirit of the forum, man. We all already know Islamists are Nazi-adjacent - they allied themselves with the Axis Powers in WWII. That's a fact.

I was just reporting facts, not giving opinions.

Another related fact is that the publicity for Snow White also had to be tamped down, and one of the reasons is that Rachel Zegler and Gal Gadot are publicly on opposite sides of the conflict. I might actually watch that movie just to see how hot Gal might look in that evil costume (does she ever strip out of it? do we see any skin?) skipping through all the scenes with 'mid' Zegler in her regrettable pageboy haircut. The very idea that Zegler could be 'fairest in the land' in comparison to Gadot is complete cognitive dissonance. Of course, if this was made in the 90s, the movie *could* put Zegler through a beautification transformation scene, but these days, they're definitely not going to do that. She's going to win the day solely on her newfound girlboss powers.

Anyway, I don't know if anyone saw the latest news on Anthony Mackie? He's got a mixed bag of commentary over the past years leaning slightly towards black militance, but he just did an interview with Charlemagne Tha God where he promoted the masculine values for his boys about being the 'man of the house' while he's away on movie sets and protecting and cherishing their mother. That seems kind of sweet, really.