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Live Action Nightshade - Coming soon!

This might be a bit of a a sk as I've been a bit Mia lately, but heres a crowd funding page for the project I've been trying to get going for a year now. May have finally found the right actress for the job!

https://gofund.me/8274fe47
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Good to know that you wanna make a live action movie!
I really enjoy your animated videos that you have done so far.
The actress looks good and I imagine she could become a heroine in peril.
I think it's absolutely crucial that you post some more info on this so people (incl. me) will donate:
- What is the story idea behind it?
- How long will the final video be?
- Perhaps some perks for higher donations?
- How will the costume look?
That is verrrry important to me for example. What materials is the costume made off? Will she wear a mask? How will it look like?
For example: a random 1$ plastic eye mask is a total turn-off for me
- Which aspects/fetishes do you wanna include in the video? (like unmasking, certain fight moves, peril scenes etc.)
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Thanks Mask ripper, I will post more info and pics when I have it. Interesting you should say about the cheap mask I will keep that in mind.
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FallOfJustice wrote:
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This might be a bit of a a sk as I've been a bit Mia lately, but heres a crowd funding page for the project slope game I've been trying to get going for a year now. May have finally found the right actress for the job!

https://gofund.me/8274fe47
It sounds like you have an exciting project ahead with "Nightshade." Consider casting local talent from acting schools or online platforms like Backstage, and use public spaces or friends' homes for filming to keep costs low.
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Hi Tom, thanks yep finally found the perfect actress for it!
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I am sorry to say no to this actress . I saw what you did on your channel and really it was not bad at all. Some scenes were very good really ! But i think for a live action, the actress has to be much more like my pictures. it’s my point of view. But really congrats for what you do. You can check my deviant art pages to see my videos and what I like

https://www.deviantart.com/moohro

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Yes if only I could get AI to make real life actresses...
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Look , I am not a professional, but when I walk outside,I I can cross everyday really beautiful girls.

So I don’t know , with all the beautiful girls we have, we can’t find one to do the job ?
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Look , I am not a professional, but when I walk outside,I I can cross everyday really beautiful girls.

So I don’t know , with all the beautiful girls we have, we can’t find one to do the job ?
LOL

The actress in the photos with the right costume will look amazing

I dare you to ask a beautiful girl you come across on the street to dress up in a costume and let you pretend to beat the life out of her

Have fun with your AI though
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Hello shl ! First let me tell you I like your work since the very beginning ! But look : first how we could find before such amazing models like Emma or Lynda when they were young, so perfect for these roles , or like Alina , so beautiful, or Cassidy , perfect , or Jenny still on the job (I don’t know) and even Ashley who is still good , of course I forget others but you see what I mean.

After, costumes before were sometimes so much better than now

And now what do we have ? I am sorry to say that even bluestone with their extraordinary models (I don’t remember the name of the blond beauty who was playing supernova) now they work with models that don’t fit the job like before.

Don’t tell me with all the actresses we have you can’t find a beautiful 25 years old girl who will fit the role ?

Ok I understand that this kind of play is quite not common, but I think very top actresses play actions movies where they get beaten, knocked out and everything and they just play.

Ok if you add sex, it’s another storey, but really, we have so many beauties in this too.

So of course, I will always love much more real actresses, movies and all, but I created my AI like you say, because the fact is I don’t find anymore what I like.

It is good we still have production like yours, with knockout that look like knockout and so many other things, but overall this, it is very poor.

My opinion.
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Hello shl ! First let me tell you I like your work since the very beginning ! But look : first how we could find before such amazing models like Emma or Lynda when they were young, so perfect for these roles , or like Alina , so beautiful, or Cassidy , perfect , or Jenny still on the job (I don’t know) and even Ashley who is still good , of course I forget others but you see what I mean.

After, costumes before were sometimes so much better than now

And now what do we have ? I am sorry to say that even bluestone with their extraordinary models (I don’t remember the name of the blond beauty who was playing supernova) now they work with models that don’t fit the job like before.

Don’t tell me with all the actresses we have you can’t find a beautiful 25 years old girl who will fit the role ?

Ok I understand that this kind of play is quite not common, but I think very top actresses play actions movies where they get beaten, knocked out and everything and they just play.

Ok if you add sex, it’s another storey, but really, we have so many beauties in this too.

So of course, I will always love much more real actresses, movies and all, but I created my AI like you say, because the fact is I don’t find anymore what I like.

It is good we still have production like yours, with knockout that look like knockout and so many other things, but overall this, it is very poor.

My opinion.
I cannot tell you how many times I have had people tell me 'I didnt think I liked ____________ but she looked amazing in your film and her acting was very different from what ive seen her in"

You telling a producer not to pick an actress but find someone more like your AI generated image is 1. tone deaf 2. unrealistic 3.strange 4. rude 5. unwarranted 6. in poor taste

You bringing up Lynda Carter as example is perfect though, as it completely shines a light on how horrible your original comment was.

It's been almost 50 Years since Lynda Carter was Wonder Woman. Hollywood never found a better one. Porn hasn't either. In 49... YEARS

ALMOST HALF A DECADE, SHE CAN'T BE TOPPED

"But... look at my AI picture"

Yeah sure buddy. I don't care how beautiful some random 25 year old woman is, what makes a great heroine, what makes a great heroine performance, it not as shallow as her skin. Plenty of beautiful women would be useless trying to star in a peril film. If Fall Of Justice needs help with casting - leave it to his peers to give him advice. Cause you are massively unqualified for any useful feedback, especially if you are posting photos of your AI generated images as examples of better casting options
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I've filmed over 50 scuba fetish videos (wetsuit fetish, scuba peril/fights) so far and I can say that is it tough enough to find women for it, especially since I'm doing these videos for a small niche group (and myself) and can't pay big wages since the scuba gear and location rent are quite expensive already.
So, I don't work with models, but with students mostly. These women need to be ok with being in a fetish video shot, knowning that somewhere in the world folks would watch these videos with their pants open. I do offer that they can hide their identity with scuba mask and cowl etc... but still it's hard to find many women who would like to participate. Especially in my case where scuba experience is a factor as well.
But ok, for my scuba videos the women don't need acting skills or have a model-like pretty faces (as their faces mostly aren't fully shown).
Of course I wouldn't "mind" if some Baywatch babe would show up and would want to participate in the videos ;-) ... but that is not my expectation.
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I imagine how hard it is to find women for such a video like in this case.


(Guess I will find out soon enough)
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Hello shl ! First let me tell you I like your work since the very beginning ! But look : first how we could find before such amazing models like Emma or Lynda when they were young, so perfect for these roles , or like Alina , so beautiful, or Cassidy , perfect , or Jenny still on the job (I don’t know) and even Ashley who is still good , of course I forget others but you see what I mean.

After, costumes before were sometimes so much better than now

And now what do we have ? I am sorry to say that even bluestone with their extraordinary models (I don’t remember the name of the blond beauty who was playing supernova) now they work with models that don’t fit the job like before.

Don’t tell me with all the actresses we have you can’t find a beautiful 25 years old girl who will fit the role ?

Ok I understand that this kind of play is quite not common, but I think very top actresses play actions movies where they get beaten, knocked out and everything and they just play.

Ok if you add sex, it’s another storey, but really, we have so many beauties in this too.

So of course, I will always love much more real actresses, movies and all, but I created my AI like you say, because the fact is I don’t find anymore what I like.

It is good we still have production like yours, with knockout that look like knockout and so many other things, but overall this, it is very poor.

My opinion.
I cannot tell you how many times I have had people tell me 'I didnt think I liked ____________ but she looked amazing in your film and her acting was very different from what ive seen her in"

You telling a producer not to pick an actress but find someone more like your AI generated image is 1. tone deaf 2. unrealistic 3.strange 4. rude 5. unwarranted 6. in poor taste

You bringing up Lynda Carter as example is perfect though, as it completely shines a light on how horrible your original comment was.

It's been almost 50 Years since Lynda Carter was Wonder Woman. Hollywood never found a better one. Porn hasn't either. In 49... YEARS

ALMOST HALF A DECADE, SHE CAN'T BE TOPPED

"But... look at my AI picture"

Yeah sure buddy. I don't care how beautiful some random 25 year old woman is, what makes a great heroine, what makes a great heroine performance, it not as shallow as her skin. Plenty of beautiful women would be useless trying to star in a peril film. If Fall Of Justice needs help with casting - leave it to his peers to give him advice. Cause you are massively unqualified for any useful feedback, especially if you are posting photos of your AI generated images as examples of better casting options

At least we can speak about all this !

About lynda, i was not speaking about lynda carter, and yes the only one in my opinion too !

i was speaking abour lynda in the bluestone series, emma too in the bluestone series, who was for me with alina lopes the best actress i think for these roles, cali logan was very good too in some of her videos, and some other actress like them.

all i say, is MY opinion. these girls i speak about they are as sexy and beautiful and somehow more beautiful than all the AI pictures we can make.

so all i say is : Pick up one actress like these, make them play the way SHL does the knockout, because they look real, come back to the fundamental of what we had with lynda carter, and all i say, it is that this will always be an instant buy for me.

i bought almost all the early productions from them.

lately, which one was very good ? sometimes battle for earth did good things, SHL has good "like real" productions, bluestone is loosing istelf with actress that dont fit anymore and i dont buy anymore (and i bought so many from them before) .

and by the way, i buy everything, all this productions are on the web, and i never download them, i buy when i like to help this genre.

there are so many beautiful actress that has been used for the genre. My point is that the genre is loosing itself because we dont have anymore such beautiful actress.

just my point of view, and maybe not only mine... you dont think pepole buy less ? ask producers...
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all i say, is MY opinion. these girls i speak about they are as sexy and beautiful and somehow more beautiful than all the AI pictures we can make.
Hey,

We vote with our wallets here, let quality speak for itself.

And maybe try to keep things courteous... Especially toward new talents who haven’t had their moment in the spotlight yet.

And what a welcome that is...
pepole buy less ?
I believe you were trying to spell ‘people’ there, much like the decency in your thought process… neither quite made it.
you dont think pepole buy less ? ask producers...
Ever heard of inflation? Even if you survive on nothing but crisps, you must have felt it.

I try to support as well the best I can but things have been getting tough lately (for everyone) and I just can't buy as much as I used to.

I think you’re oversimplifying a complex issue, and the "backlash" you’re getting should at least make you reconsider your wording, and why you even chose to jump into this discussion.
But i think for a live action, the actress has to be much more like my pictures.
First off, and let me make this clear, Nathalie is gorgeous.

For comparison's sake, I'd be curious to see your face in real life.

I'm pretty sure that if the two of you were wearing masks, one would be indulging a fetish, the other doing the world a favor.

Jokes aside imagine for a second being the girl stepping into this conversation and seeing this type of comment.

How would it make you feel? How would you feel if someone treated you or your work like that?

You’re entitled to your opinion, but the way you delivered it was downright dismissive and condescending.
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hello and thanks for your time to answer

i think all this is very interesting.

i think there was posts on this site about the poorless of the genre, and how this genre is losing itself.

I have nothing against your actress, of course , it is just that i dont like her for this role, like you dont like this actress for a role that's all.

like i really dont like a lot of asian actress who plays in superheroine asian movies, where only a few are perfect for the role, and other not.

For example check the asian yui hatano in her wonder woman movies... wow ! i bought the first one just for the chloro scene who was so good.

so all this is a question of taste, i speak about my taste.

now if i hurt anyone, this was never in my intention. we speak about the genre, and the genre is getting poorless, that's all i say.

except when you have some producers like this SHL guy who really tries to do interesting things, the genre is getting really poor.

before, i was buying every week a new movie. now ??? it is very seldom.

and i am sorry about this because it is my fantaisy, my fetish, i have been feeded by wonder woman lynda carter and i still remember this moment when i saw her losing consciousness how i found her so beautiful...

ah, and about myself, don't worry, i am married with a model who likes only good looking men ;)

anyway, i really encourage you to continue, because if i had the time, really, i would love to produce a movie that i like, and i will be very interested to see how it works.

but really, i f i do so, as i said, it would come back to the fundamentals, beautiful actress, real life action, good costume, dark peril, defeated heroine, helpless heroine, really sexy.

so i am sorry if i offended you beacuse i am truly on the side of every producers here and will keep like this because i just like what you try to do guys , and my only wish is to have a good superheroine peril movie !
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Look , I am not a professional, but when I walk outside,I I can cross everyday really beautiful girls.

So I don’t know , with all the beautiful girls we have, we can’t find one to do the job ?
LOL

The actress in the photos with the right costume will look amazing

I dare you to ask a beautiful girl you come across on the street to dress up in a costume and let you pretend to beat the life out of her

Have fun with your AI though
Yeah I can see how that conversation would go. I had issues even asking porn stars to do things.

But on a side note, the guy at Paragon had gotten girls to do work for him who were just working at malls and stores. Not sure how he did it. These weren't stellar women but cute Starbucks barista level.

But yeah I don't want a visit from the police, no way.
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Mr x ! You used wonderful model too ! And did really a great job 👏
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Wow, this one went off the rails pretty quickly, didn't it? Nothing like a bunch of people responding so vehemently to a guy who simply says "it is my opinion/view". If you don't like his opinion, you should probably just ignore it rather than lambaste him for it.

Anyway, though, I'm in agreement with Damien: those photos of Nathalie Didion are raw demos. If she wore makeup and lipstick, had an attractive hairstyle, donned a tight-fitting shiny spandex outfit, and leaned into some provocative camera angles, she would be at the level of many TBFE actresses already, provided she had the acting chops to be defiant in combat and reactive in peril. Of course, those are all big "ifs", but I can't wait to see what you can do with her in production, Fall of Justice. Everyone has to start somewhere. I think with Heroineburgh we actually did a pretty good job right out of the gate with our first-ever episode (i.e. it holds up, 7 years later) and others can do the same if they pay attention to detail.

And Maskripper, my man, I love your enthusiasm. However, what I never knew before is that you are a producer? If you're doing dozens of scuba gear videos, why don't you provide us a link to them so we can check some of them out...especially if it involves tight outfits and peril? Do you have a C4S store or some other method of selling them? First I've heard of this!
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Wow, this one went off the rails pretty quickly, didn't it? Nothing like a bunch of people responding so vehemently to a guy who simply says "it is my opinion/view". If you don't like his opinion, you should probably just ignore it rather than lambaste him for it.

Anyway, though, I'm in agreement with Damien
If you want to straddle a fence one of two things is going to happen

1. You will wreck your jeans
2. You will rip your ballsack

Nothing like a guy expressing his opinion rudely to be lambasted by a series of other peoples rude vehement opinions, just so that another guy can morally grand stand with his opinion that in HIS opinion other people should not give THEIR opinion to a guy who freely expressing his RUDE OPINION

Maybe you should start by taking your own advice - and steer clear of giving your opinions on how I express mine

Or would the irony keep you awake at night? Fucking hell
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You know I think we are all in same boat isn’t it ? We appreciate the same genre just with different tastes. Is it a problem ? If we can’t critisize anything , how can we move on ? If we are not capable to take any criticism how can we improve.

But in all of this, I think we all love the same thing and we have all in common that we have all been striked (at least the age 40 and more) by Lynda carter .

My point is that I am a VERY good consumer from this genre, I bought how many ? I don’t know. And I still love the genre, and it is still my main fantasy.

My point is to tell you : guys ! Take my money please

My point is to tell that unfortunately, I don’t see (or very seldom) productions that strikes me like before …

Am I the only one ?
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If a model really 'gets' the genre, and can put in a performance that sells the script, that would be infinitely more appealing to me than how physically stunning she is. I would put that on the highest rung of importance, above the costumes, above the camera quality, above the script - all things I would also put above the physical beauty of the model, as well.

Besides, if I walked past this model in a the supermarket, I would certainly notice her. I mean heck, if you dressed her in exactly the skimpy outfit in personnal's ai image, in the exact same pose, with the exact same favourable lighting and framing - I think he would notice her, too!

Good luck with it, FOJ.
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Wow, this one went off the rails pretty quickly, didn't it? Nothing like a bunch of people responding so vehemently to a guy who simply says "it is my opinion/view". If you don't like his opinion, you should probably just ignore it rather than lambaste him for it.

Anyway, though, I'm in agreement with Damien
If you want to straddle a fence one of two things is going to happen

1. You will wreck your jeans
2. You will rip your ballsack

Nothing like a guy expressing his opinion rudely to be lambasted by a series of other peoples rude vehement opinions, just so that another guy can morally grand stand with his opinion that in HIS opinion other people should not give THEIR opinion to a guy who freely expressing his RUDE OPINION

Maybe you should start by taking your own advice - and steer clear of giving your opinions on how I express mine

Or would the irony keep you awake at night? Fucking hell
You've incorrectly conflated two different topics.

1) Personnal's unrealistic request that Fall of Justice's new SHIP heroine somehow resemble his perfect AI ideal. I didn't single you out. I said a "bunch of people". I'm sorry you took it personally as 'grandstanding' but that was not my intent.
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2) Whether Nathalie Didion works as a possible SHIP actress. That was a point on which I agreed with you, and thus singled you out for agreement.

None of that is 'fence sitting', since those are two different things. I had one particular opinion about each thing.

Nevertheless, let's not let this sour things for Fall of Justice. People like whatever they like, and if he works well with this first model, FOJ could have some early success with his project. Let's see.
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Yes good luck FOJ !
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Here's what I know.

Fall of Justice is a cool project. I've been a backer of the patreon and enjoyed it very much back when it was active.

So the mind that brought us that doing something else? I'm here for it! I trust the guy to have a good vision, at least.
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You've incorrectly conflated two different topics.

1) Personnal's unrealistic request that Fall of Justice's new SHIP heroine somehow resemble his perfect AI ideal. I didn't single you out. I said a "bunch of people". I'm sorry you took it personally as 'grandstanding' but that was not my intent.
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2) Whether Nathalie Didion works as a possible SHIP actress. That was a point on which I agreed with you, and thus singled you out for agreement.

None of that is 'fence sitting', since those are two different things. I had one particular opinion about each thing.
You simultaneously said "If you don't like his opinion, you should probably just ignore it rather than lambaste him for it" and "Anyway, though, I'm in agreement with Damien"

So which is it? That you agree with me or that I shouldn't 'vehemently lambaste' a shitty opinion?

Thats the fence sitting I was addressing, which I am not surprised went over your head

Though oddly we are in agreement - if someone has an opposing opinion, they should keep it to themselves. So, lead the way as an example and show us the way

LOL
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SHL wrote:
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shevek wrote:
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You've incorrectly conflated two different topics.

1) Personnal's unrealistic request that Fall of Justice's new SHIP heroine somehow resemble his perfect AI ideal. I didn't single you out. I said a "bunch of people". I'm sorry you took it personally as 'grandstanding' but that was not my intent.
and
2) Whether Nathalie Didion works as a possible SHIP actress. That was a point on which I agreed with you, and thus singled you out for agreement.

None of that is 'fence sitting', since those are two different things. I had one particular opinion about each thing.
You simultaneously said "If you don't like his opinion, you should probably just ignore it rather than lambaste him for it" and "Anyway, though, I'm in agreement with Damien"

So which is it? That you agree with me or that I shouldn't 'vehemently lambaste' a shitty opinion?

Thats the fence sitting I was addressing, which I am not surprised went over your head

Though oddly we are in agreement - if someone has an opposing opinion, they should keep it to themselves. So, lead the way as an example and show us the way

LOL


It’s quite interesting how you like to insult people … « shitty opinion »? Wow ! Is it how you act with everyone ?

We can’t speak ? We can’t have our opinion ? If it’s not yours it’s shit ? You can’t stand any criticism ? Just asking ! but of course you will answer with again all your certainties .

You know in this work , humility is important, and in fact humility is important everywhere.

I even apologised if I hurt anyone.

But as I checked a lot of your posts here and there I see that maybe humility is not a word part of your dictionary.

You know, my brother is a very famous artist , but very very , and is … like he is .

Maybe you consider yourself as well and you are how you are.

We are all here because we share the same passion for this genre.

You are not at the top of the food chain, and we are your customers, and we agree to pay for what you do, and if we want to give you criticism it is not against you, it is because you can deliver what we like and we ask you to do so.

I didn’t buy your ares movie because there was no knockout scene inside.

Doing a Ww movie without knockout is little nonsense for me but ok , you are an artist after all, so I didn’t tell you before but I tell you now.

This is not against you, this means : « when you use a so gorgeous actress as Alina, give us what we want and it will be a massive hit! And thank you to answer to our needs »

You can understand this ?

Anyway, I like what you do, and I encourage you as an artist. As a human beeing, I am not sure anymore.

And as I said before these posts are for FOJ so again good luck FOJ !
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Let's all take a chill pill. Personall fair enough, you won't be contributing to the first production (until you see the trailer of course) that is fine! No worries! Thanks for all the support peeps. Really appreciate it! We will make something hot for you
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Re: Live Action Nightshade - Coming soon!

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Re: Live Action Nightshade - Coming soon!

I agree with maskripper. I would definitely like to see a costume first, and honestly if you can copy a batgirl like costume, boots, and cowl that would be the best IMO. Stick with similar looks to well known costumed DC heroines like you’ve done in your animations over an original design would definitely be the safest route.

Story wise, all your animations you’ve done are extremely good and I really like your narrative style - just do exactly what you do in your animations. My favorite will always be your Darkest Knight one with bat woman and the recent Batgirl one (minus the weird naked bruce wayne torture though). Your stories where a vulnerable non-powered heroine (batgirl bat woman etc) fighting against a few normal thugs in some alley and then just flat out losing and taken away to be taken advantage of has always been your best work

Your actress is perfectly fine, she has a girl next door look and with some makeup and a tight form fitting costume would look sexy. It’s really the acting part - if she can sell the confidence of a super heroine, the defiance , the panic, the fighting etc that’s all that matters
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