Superheroes Reimagined

[IMSancho]

Earlier this week I happened upon a new YouTube channel called Superheroes Reimagined.

It’s a series of AI videos of a spinoff of the 60s Batman series. The main hero’s are a male and female Robin. The male Robin is the Boy Wonder. The female Robin is known simply as Robin, though one of the villains keeps getting her name wrong.

Batgirl is in it. The female Robin looks amazing (as does Batgirl, Catwoman) and the other female villain.

The Bat traps are versions of ones that were used in the original series. There are also some amusing continuity mistakes.

Enjoy everyone:

https://youtube.com/@superheromoviereim ... Lotk2RqRSn

[IMSancho]

They’re on Patreon now

https://www.patreon.com/cw/SuperheroMoviesReimagined

[Heroine Addict]

It's scary how close AI is getting to being authentic. Continuity still seems to be a real problem, though. Meanwhile, you could always make a drinking game out of spotting instances of disappearing and reappearing gloves in these videos.

It will take a few years to get there but I can see us reaching a point where you'll be able to request a convincing fourth season of Batman or a post-Let It Be Beatles album.

[shevek]

Yes, it is scary. I watched the newest one and it's pretty good. Apparently Batgirl and female Robin are both Asian now? Anyway Batgirl's costume is very tight and she looks great. Boy Wonder has a bit of an obvious...package - it's hilarious. Will they escape the deadly trap?

[Femina]

The problem is this is about as good as it's gonna get. The progress AI CAN make appears to be stagnating.

The reasons for this are varied... but generative AI is reaching the limits of what its creators can do with it under current power constraints, they're bleeding money hoping to reach some plateau of acceptable energy use while finding a profit, and worse their hardware requirements are already beginning to cut off the audience AI wants to sell to. Playstation, Nintendo, and Microsoft can't get Ram anymore.... let that sink in. They can't get RAM because Sam Altman is wasting money buying it all up frantically trying to understand his creation enough to keep improving it. Somewhere, somehow there may one day be an AI methodology to do what people seem to want it to do at a profit, Generative AI doesn't appear to be it. It's query/response based and its reasoning capacity appears to be reaching a plateau... worse the people working on it DONT UNDERSTAND HOW IT ACTIALLY WORKS, they merely control how it's 'trained.'

You can't fix what you don't understand.

[infogeek247]

Still excellent. Just to see them in peril. Thank you.

[sneakly]

The problem is this is about as good as it's gonna get. The progress AI CAN make appears to be stagnating.

The reasons for this are varied... but generative AI is reaching the limits of what its creators can do with it under current power constraints, they're bleeding money hoping to reach some plateau of acceptable energy use while finding a profit, and worse their hardware requirements are already beginning to cut off the audience AI wants to sell to. Playstation, Nintendo, and Microsoft can't get Ram anymore.... let that sink in. They can't get RAM because Sam Altman is wasting money buying it all up frantically trying to understand his creation enough to keep improving it. Somewhere, somehow there may one day be an AI methodology to do what people seem to want it to do at a profit, Generative AI doesn't appear to be it. It's query/response based and its reasoning capacity appears to be reaching a plateau... worse the people working on it DONT UNDERSTAND HOW IT ACTIALLY WORKS, they merely control how it's 'trained.'

You can't fix what you don't understand.

It has been out barely couple of years. It has already exceeded expectations on a number of fronts. One is that some creative people have been doing character swaps that are amazingly good looking. The other part part is that converting images into animations. It wasn't long ago that getting the number of legs and fingers were a challenge. The next stage is going to be how what we have is going to be applied.

To really make this work, users are going to have to approach this from a much more practical level. This video was fun and creative, but the next step is going to be creating shot by shot story boards with standardized models, like they use in other 3d renders and then animated. I think, dialog is also going to get re-written where it the same cadence will be used as a model for a new scene.

I have been really impressed with how some on DA have been replacing Robin with Batgirl in some scenes. It may take time to get to a completely new original scene with original characters that look and sound convincing, but I think it will happen this year.

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I could see a scene like this being redone with Batgirl and Catwoman... and not even being able to tell it was ever any other take...

[Heroine Addict]

Some great innuendo in this. "Catwoman's giant clam" indeed.

[Visitor]

You can now get away with things they couldn't back then in that time slot.

"Mere scholastic exercises." - Lady Prudence can now be using the Boy Wonder for research. I still don't believe Robin got away from five students to jump out a window. I can believe he was desperate enough to do it.

[Femina]

It has been out barely couple of years. It has already exceeded expectations on a number of fronts. One is that some creative people have been doing character swaps that are amazingly good looking. The other part part is that converting images into animations. It wasn't long ago that getting the number of legs and fingers were a challenge. The next stage is going to be how what we have is going to be applied.

To really make this work, users are going to have to approach this from a much more practical level. This video was fun and creative, but the next step is going to be creating shot by shot story boards with standardized models, like they use in other 3d renders and then animated. I think, dialog is also going to get re-written where it the same cadence will be used as a model for a new scene.

I have been really impressed with how some on DA have been replacing Robin with Batgirl in some scenes. It may take time to get to a completely new original scene with original characters that look and sound convincing, but I think it will happen this year.
JokeMobile4.jpg-fullview.jpg

I could see a scene like this being redone with Batgirl and Catwoman... and not even being able to tell it was ever any other take...

I have fun with what AI currently is where its working well. Google's Imagen is exceptionally well at holding model information you give it for example, Grok makes decent 5 second videos (though purchasing a monthly thing for 10 second videos seems unappealing to me as it can only JUST BARELY string together an acceptably logical 5 seconds)

Yes it does 'certain things' okay... the issue is that it does these things at a ludicrously expensive energy, geographical, and hardware cost that has begun to IMPACT these markets negatively for a decreasing benefit. See... innovations in AI technology don't appear to make creating and running AI any more efficient, this is one of downsides of its creators not actually understanding the way it actually works on the software end. Throwing more computers and RAM sticks at it makes it work a little better at what it do... to a steadily decreasing benefit. Gaining 5 seconds of AI video from zero cost them a reasonable amount of energy, space and RAM... what do they do when getting second 11 to come out without the AI spitting nothing but turds costs them 10% of our global energy output, 150 miles of land and 25% of the worlds RAM... then getting to 12 seconds doubles that requirement and so on? At what point do we recognize that a technology is as good as it's REASONABLE to continue putting resources into?

Corporations never stop eating their own tail, they'll continue sinking money into a failing project that promised them early gains like a lemming. Corporations are ludicrously susceptible to the sunk cost fallacy... gradually it's becoming clear the best thing the AI corps can do is go bankrupt... the WORST they can do is get bailed out by the government to continue failing to make AI profitable, all the while WE can look forward to our PC's (computers, cellphones, game consoles, tablets, etc.) balloon in price until only the very rich can afford them, further cutting the AI tech bros off of the market.

Ain't gonna sugar coat it cause its FUN in its way... AI is like a kid with terminal illness whose treatment requires nearly all of the town's supplies on to keep alive creating economical, sociological and nutritional crises for the rest of the village in the process.

[sneakly]

I have fun with what AI currently is where its working well. Google's Imagen is exceptionally well at holding model information you give it for example, Grok makes decent 5 second videos (though purchasing a monthly thing for 10 second videos seems unappealing to me as it can only JUST IBARELY string together an acceptably logical 5 seconds)

Yes it does 'certain things' okay... the issue is that it does these things at a ludicrously expensive energy, geographical, and hardware cost that has begun to IMPACT these markets negatively for a decreasing benefit. See... innovations in AI technology don't appear to make creating and running AI any more efficient, this is one of downsides of its creators not actually understanding the way it actually works on the software end. Throwing more computers and RAM sticks at it makes it work a little better at what it do... to a steadily decreasing benefit. Gaining 5 seconds of AI video from zero cost them a reasonable amount of energy, space and RAM... what do they do when getting second 11 to come out without the AI spitting nothing but turds costs them 10% of our global energy output, 150 miles of land and 25% of the worlds RAM... then getting to 12 seconds doubles that requirement and so on? At what point do we recognize that a technology is as good as it's REASONABLE to continue putting resources into?

Corporations never stop eating their own tail, they'll continue sinking money into a failing project that promised them early gains like a lemming. Corporations are ludicrously susceptible to the sunk cost fallacy... gradually it's becoming clear the best thing the AI corps can do is go bankrupt... the WORST they can do is get bailed out by the government to continue failing to make AI profitable, all the while WE can look forward to our PC's (computers, cellphones, game consoles, tablets, etc.) balloon in price until only the very rich can afford them, further cutting the AI tech bros off of the market.

Ain't gonna sugar coat it cause its FUN in its way... AI is like a kid with terminal illness whose treatment requires nearly all of the town's supplies on to keep alive creating economical, sociological and nutritional crises for the rest of the village in the process.

I don't have any illusions about the cost. AI is expensive to run. but two things will happen over time. First, AI will get more efficient. I remember in the 1990s when RAM was $50 per megabyte. Bill Gates said they were writing software on the assumption that RAM would be cheap. I currently am typing on laptop has 8 Gigabytes of RAM, ($400,000 in mid 1990s). Once it is a problem, someone will figure out a solution.

Second, Bloatware. In the 1990s software getting so bloated with code that it was starting to cause problems with being able to run, coders evenetually cam up with more efficient ways of managing the millions of lines of code.

If there is sufficient motivation to create economy, someone will create it. Super cooled, solar powered processing farms in space or cheap quantum computing, someone will make money off of it......

Is it for the betterment of Humanity? I doubt it... Is it ecologically viable? It has become clear, at least in the US, no one cares enough.... Is it going to happen anyway? Absolutely.

[Femina]

I don't have any illusions about the cost. AI is expensive to run. but two things will happen over time. First, AI will get more efficient. I remember in the 1990s when RAM was $50 per megabyte. Bill Gates said they were writing software on the assumption that RAM would be cheap. I currently am typing on laptop has 8 Gigabytes of RAM, ($400,000 in mid 1990s). Once it is a problem, someone will figure out a solution.

More RAM being more expensive in the past due to the technology not being advanced to a specific point is NOT comparable with the cost to demand expense that is occurring atm. The DEMAND for the top of the line RAM sticks is OBSCENE in AI right now. Utterly broken and wasteful. At NO point when 8 GB of RAM cost half a million dollars did Nintendo or consumers not have access to purchasing enough RAM at a reasonable expense to sell or buy their consoles or computers to demand. You cannot conflate these two separate concepts. The RAM situation isn't a situation where the technology isn't advanced enough to fulfill users demands... it's expensive because the AI companies have bought most of the RAM. Essentially it's becoming a 1% economy where only the super wealthy corporations can afford to benefit from adequate RAM.

As I explained above, the AI is NOT becoming more efficient, quite the opposite. They are UNABLE to make it more efficient per the requirements of running it currently because they don't understand how it functions to operate. All they can do to improve it is throw more RAM at it... which is what they're doing and as I explained above the benefits of doing so are stagnating. I know y'all are bright eyed and optimistic because of all the improvements in the tech you've witnessed over the last few years... but I'm gonna have to toss a bucket on you. Those improvements are NOT due to the technology getting better. Those improvements are ENTIRELY because they are dedicating more and more and more and more RAM/Energy/Hardware for the AI to use for processing. Which is proving to be a SPECTACULARLY wasteful research structure.

Second, Bloatware. In the 1990s software getting so bloated with code that it was starting to cause problems with being able to run, coders evenetually cam up with more efficient ways of managing the millions of lines of code.

If there is sufficient motivation to create economy, someone will create it. Super cooled, solar powered processing farms in space or cheap quantum computing, someone will make money off of it......

Is it for the betterment of Humanity? I doubt it... Is it ecologically viable? It has become clear, at least in the US, no one cares enough.... Is it going to happen anyway? Absolutely.

The difference here is that coders understood how Bioware games run. Coders DON'T understand how AI runs. They know how they built it, they know that it's query/response based... they know they need vast libraries of data and a computing network that can process them, but they have fuck all understanding about how it actually functions in 'process' to produce what it chooses to produce. THATS the reason they're incapable of making it more efficient. Like I said before, you can't 'fix' what you don't understand.

Someone might make the breakthrough tomorrow about how it works enough to understand it enough to make it efficient... I certainly hope they do before there's literally NO Ram or energy for consumer purchase... but at this juncture I'm doubtful.

People don't remember cause they have the memories of goldfish today, but they attempted query/response AI multiple times in the early 00's-10's and it was basically EXACTLY as capable as it is right now (it was primarily a chat bot back then and not 'geared' for images and such of course, but the mechanisms of understanding vs programming were identical, they turned off one of those Chat Bots because it became a psycho racist and they couldn't figure out how to make it stop) They sunset the tech for AGES AND AGES because back when tech companies were run by smart people and not billionaires they recognized a technology that was too unwieldy for the effort that would be required to make it work.

[IMSancho]

From an email I received today. I’m guess it’s the Boy Wonder’s package.

This is our 2nd strike, it was for sexual content on part 3. Because I don’t know what sexual content they are talking about, or if they are sexualizing heroes in costumes (that is on them), we have no way of preventing them going to another episode and giving us a 3rd strike which is a permanent ban. Going forward this will be the primary place for all content as X will be our Social Media vehicle to promote this page. Through your support we have invested in better ai (not perfect) tools, costumes and incentives for the actors to continue making these movies. I do not make an income doing these, it’s become an enjoyable hobby, personally I’m an exercise physiologist working with professional, Olympic and collegiate athletes as a career. So when you invest with us, it goes into the product

Thank you RL (Fletch) Fletcher, The Boy Wonder

[IMSancho]

They’ve been booted off YouTube.

Batgirl and Wondergirl will have their own series now.

https://www.patreon.com/posts/adventures-of-1-157965752

https://www.patreon.com/posts/adventures-of-157966280