DR Who has been cancelled

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DR Who has been cancelled

O.K they are claiming an indefinete hiatus, but this will not be the 18 month one as they did in Classic

Who is to blame?

Every showrunner who decided that Doctor Who had to have a woke social agenda and hit over the fans head with a 10 foot club

The two last actors to play the doctor insulting the fans

Lousy companions
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Not a surprise, the modern reboot was a bigger budget, that means it has to be more popular. I don't think woke is the problem. Bad writing kills shows, not being "woke." Some of the best episodes of the series had openly gay characters, like Captain Jack. The people that were engaged by the show back in 2005 are now all grown up and getting that audience to stick around is much harder. The series ran out of gas after a long run, they couldn't come up with monsters of the week a doctor and companions that were able to compete with Eccleston, Smith and Tennant. The writing wasn't there and the characters weren't engaging. That happens in the writer's room....
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Re: DR Who has been cancelled

sneakly wrote:
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Not a surprise, the modern reboot was a bigger budget, that means it has to be more popular. I don't think woke is the problem. Bad writing kills shows, not being "woke." Some of the best episodes of the series had openly gay characters, like Captain Jack. The people that were engaged by the show back in 2005 are now all grown up and getting that audience to stick around is much harder. The series ran out of gas after a long run, they couldn't come up with monsters of the week a doctor and companions that were able to compete with Eccleston, Smith and Tennant. The writing wasn't there and the characters weren't engaging. That happens in the writer's room....
I think Eccelston was awful as the Doctor, Tennant you could put as one of the best

Openly gay is not a problem. but having a companion who is only there to beat the audience over the head she is LGBT(Bill Potts) is woke as is that horrrible episode when Tennant came back and he was lectured on pronouns
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Re: DR Who has been cancelled

Disney thought they were going to get an audience since it was a long running popular series. People didn't like the way the show had been going and just left.

They might have done better just running all the old episodes like Fox did when they created a Simpsons channel.
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Dazzle1 wrote:
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sneakly wrote:
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Not a surprise, the modern reboot was a bigger budget, that means it has to be more popular. I don't think woke is the problem. Bad writing kills shows, not being "woke." Some of the best episodes of the series had openly gay characters, like Captain Jack. The people that were engaged by the show back in 2005 are now all grown up and getting that audience to stick around is much harder. The series ran out of gas after a long run, they couldn't come up with monsters of the week a doctor and companions that were able to compete with Eccleston, Smith and Tennant. The writing wasn't there and the characters weren't engaging. That happens in the writer's room....
I think Eccelston was awful as the Doctor, Tennant you could put as one of the best

Openly gay is not a problem. but having a companion who is only there to beat the audience over the head she is LGBT(Bill Potts) is woke as is that horrrible episode when Tennant came back and he was lectured on pronouns
Eccleston had the hardest job of redefining the character after a hard re-boot. He set the tone for the series and while Tennant was better, he was alright. Smith was a bit too"whacky" for my tastes and signalled the downward spiral. Rory and Amy both helped buoy the franchise and sink it, alternately. The reliance on fixing things by hopping in the TARDIS or getting buried for a thousand years to fix plot problems showed the writers were running out of gas... Smith was the last Doctor that I watched consistently.

The "woke" stuff had been their the whole run, but, that's why I am not blaming it. The Captain Jack was a great character and the Doctor's Daughter should have gotten her own spin off. Donna was another no traditional character that worked really well. So was Martha Jones, a black MD. Mickey and Rose were an inter racial couple. I thought Missy was a great character.... Especially, once she started tying up Jenna Coleman... Woke wasn't the problem, it probably helped make the re-boot fresh and unpredictable.

As I said before, bad writing and poor casting choices killed the series, not being "woke". One of the problems that I think the series had was that they were contractually obligated to have certain characters (monsters) appear in a certain number of episodes. I forget the details, but to keep the Daleks and the Cybermen, they had to appear each season, which meant they couldn't have new, more interesting villains appearing in those episodes, or it at least made it harder. The show had a 50 year run, which unfortunately meant it had a lot of baggage to drag behind it. Plus, they had characters that they started to reuse, like the Weeping Angels. Jodie Whittaker never felt like the Doctor, Georgia Tennant (the Doctor's Daughter) did get it. So I wouldn't say a gender swapping Doctor was out of the question, it was just poorly done.
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Re: DR Who has been cancelled

sneakly wrote:
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Dazzle1 wrote:
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sneakly wrote:
2 days ago
Not a surprise, the modern reboot was a bigger budget, that means it has to be more popular. I don't think woke is the problem. Bad writing kills shows, not being "woke." Some of the best episodes of the series had openly gay characters, like Captain Jack. The people that were engaged by the show back in 2005 are now all grown up and getting that audience to stick around is much harder. The series ran out of gas after a long run, they couldn't come up with monsters of the week a doctor and companions that were able to compete with Eccleston, Smith and Tennant. The writing wasn't there and the characters weren't engaging. That happens in the writer's room....
I think Eccelston was awful as the Doctor, Tennant you could put as one of the best

Openly gay is not a problem. but having a companion who is only there to beat the audience over the head she is LGBT(Bill Potts) is woke as is that horrrible episode when Tennant came back and he was lectured on pronouns
Eccleston had the hardest job of redefining the character after a hard re-boot. He set the tone for the series and while Tennant was better, he was alright. Smith was a bit too"whacky" for my tastes and signalled the downward spiral. Rory and Amy both helped buoy the franchise and sink it, alternately. The reliance on fixing things by hopping in the TARDIS or getting buried for a thousand years to fix plot problems showed the writers were running out of gas... Smith was the last Doctor that I watched consistently.

The "woke" stuff had been their the whole run, but, that's why I am not blaming it. The Captain Jack was a great character and the Doctor's Daughter should have gotten her own spin off. Donna was another no traditional character that worked really well. So was Martha Jones, a black MD. Mickey and Rose were an inter racial couple. I thought Missy was a great character.... Especially, once she started tying up Jenna Coleman... Woke wasn't the problem, it probably helped make the re-boot fresh and unpredictable.

As I said before, bad writing and poor casting choices killed the series, not being "woke". One of the problems that I think the series had was that they were contractually obligated to have certain characters (monsters) appear in a certain number of episodes. I forget the details, but to keep the Daleks and the Cybermen, they had to appear each season, which meant they couldn't have new, more interesting villains appearing in those episodes, or it at least made it harder. The show had a 50 year run, which unfortunately meant it had a lot of baggage to drag behind it. Plus, they had characters that they started to reuse, like the Weeping Angels. Jodie Whittaker never felt like the Doctor, Georgia Tennant (the Doctor's Daughter) did get it. So I wouldn't say a gender swapping Doctor was out of the question, it was just poorly done.
I hated Donna, she was the type of person the doctor should never want on the TARDIS; a loser

Martha Jones was the only good companion in New Who

Missy was a mistake, no reflection on Gomez.

Time Lords don't change gender
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