Adrianne Palicki = new jump the shark actress

[Mr. X]

Adrianne Palicki is in the new GI Joe movie and apparently its a dull flop. I think this girl pretty much has the kiss of death on her. Failed GI Joe movie. Failed WW pilot. Failed Lost in Space reboot. Failed Aquaman show.

Actually to be fair to jump the shark actors they usually a good people who just are brought on after a show is dying like Ted McGinnely or Michael Ironside. She's just the kiss of death.

[theScribbler]

Really? Wow. I'm so sorry to hear Adrianne kicked you in the nuts so hard they got pushed up into your brain, obliterating your capability of thinking nice things about her, let alone being able to remember or do simple research so that you could also list her successful contributions to successful projects like Friday Night Lights, South Beach, Smallville, Supernatural, Criminal Minds, Titan Maximum, CSI: Miami, CSI, Robot Chicken.

Seriously, she really should not pulverise you so, hurt you so bad and make you feel so low in your lonely life that lashing out at her, in some feeble attempt to lift yourself up, seem somewhat important, is something you feel compelled to do. I'll have a talk with her next time I see her. I know she doesn't know you from Adam, but if she did, I'm sure she'd feel crushed to have affected you this way. Have no fear, consider this matter solved.

It's all good. Glad I can help. Keep a chin up. Cheers!

[viking]

Wow. Someone needs to switch to decaf.

[nigtman43]

someone needs a hug

[xxxwarriorxxx]

I don't find Adrianne Palicki attractive at all. A solid 5/10. Maybe it's all her tattoo's, or her moles, but she doesn't do it for me. To each their own though. I could list a number of hotter girls that should have played Wonder Woman. If people like her thats cool though, just not for me.

[Mr. X]

theScribbler - The shows you mentioned are all small parts and one time appearances in which she wasn't really carrying the weight of the show. She didn't have major parts. Titan Maximum is stop motion and she apparently does merely a voice there. Robot Chicken is all stop motion as well so voice overs aren't exactly big parts.

Sorry but every production that has her as a main character ESPECIALLY in a recurring role seems to go flat. I've seen most of Supernatural and again she is NOT a major character in that series. In fact I can't even recall what episode she was in.

I stick to my claim. If you like her then fine. When she's in something as a regular, the project is apparently a flop.

[RedMountain]

Honestly I skipped this GI Joe film since it doesn't have Scarlet in it, one of my favorite female leads from the cartoon. The Rock and Bruce Willis is tempting and Snake Eyes was awesome(the only good part of the first movie) in the first film, but I just couldn't get excited for this.

[xxxwarriorxxx]

I can't believe they do not have Scarlet either-- she was the best female in the cartoon--

The only thing holding this movie together, like you said, is The Rock.

[IMSancho]

I can't believe everyone forgot the Red Dawn remake.

[Mr. X]

I can't believe everyone forgot the Red Dawn remake.

OMG she was in that too.

From what I understand that was a shelved project from a while back but because Chris Hemsworth is now on the map due to Thor and Avengers they finished up production on this movie to cash in on his notoriety. But critics bombed this movie. Thanks for yet another example.

[theScribbler]

Adrianne Palicki is in the new GI Joe movie and apparently its a dull flop. I think this girl pretty much has the kiss of death on her. Failed GI Joe movie. Failed WW pilot. Failed Lost in Space reboot. Failed Aquaman show.

Actually to be fair to jump the shark actors they usually a good people who just are brought on after a show is dying like Ted McGinnely or Michael Ironside. She's just the kiss of death.

theScribbler - The shows you mentioned are all small parts and one time appearances in which she wasn't really carrying the weight of the show. She didn't have major parts. Titan Maximum is stop motion and she apparently does merely a voice there. Robot Chicken is all stop motion as well so voice overs aren't exactly big parts.

Sorry but every production that has her as a main character ESPECIALLY in a recurring role seems to go flat. I've seen most of Supernatural and again she is NOT a major character in that series. In fact I can't even recall what episode she was in.

I stick to my claim. If you like her then fine. When she's in something as a regular, the project is apparently a flop.

I didn't know you get to set up the rules, then I reply, and then you get to change them.

I'd like to know the rules, lock them down as much as possible so they don't change anymore, before I do a rebuttal.

Please verify the following, and adjust where I'm in error...

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Your latest rules state these don't count...

- small parts where she's not carrying weight of show
- one time appearances where she's not carrying weight of show
- non-major parts
- voice over parts

...and this is what counts...

- main character ESPECIALLY in a recurring role
- major parts
- she's in something as a regular


And some clarifications:

I can't think of a main character in a TV series who is not a recurring role. I welcome an example of this if there is one. I may be missing something.

Also, there are regulars on shows that are not main or major parts, just supporting, do they count?

We've both seen Supernatural so I think we can agree that Sam Winchester is 'a regular.' and ' a recurring role (character).' and 'a major part.' If not, explain.

On Supernatural, is Sam's father...
- a recurring character?
- a regular?
- a main character?
- a major character?
- carries weight of show

Regarding weight carrying:

On Supernatural, I'd say both Sam and Dean carry the weight of show. On Smallville, it would be my view that Tom Welling as Clark carries the weight of the show by himself, and everyone else is supporting roles, some very important like Michael Rosenbaum and Kristin Kreuk early on until they left the show, and slightly less important supporting roles all the way down to one-liners. Let me know if you agree with this or not in your view, and if not, how you see it different.

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Hopefully replying to this won't be hard or take much time. Just want to be on the same page as much as possible.

[Mr. X]

On Supernatural, is Sam's father...
- a recurring character?
- a regular?
- a main character?
- a major character?
- carries weight of show

So what role did Adrianne play? According to IMDb she played Jessica Moore 4 times in the whole series
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1597316/

Supernatural (TV series)
Jessica Moore
– Free to Be You and Me (2009) … Jessica Moore
– What Is and What Should Never Be (2007) … Jessica Moore
– Bloody Mary (2005) … Jessica Moore
– Pilot (2005) … Jessica Moore

So do you consider that having a major part or carrying the weight of the show? So 4 appearances in a show means the same as being the lead female role in GI Joe, Wonder Woman? And according to the dates she apparently showed up twice in 2005, once 2 years later then once again 2 years later.

Ok theScribbler, you win. Having an occasional voice part on Robot Chicken makes her the main person carrying the whole show and since Robot Chicken hasn't gone belly up she's not the jump the shark actress.

[theScribbler]

On Supernatural, is Sam's father...
- a recurring character?
- a regular?
- a main character?
- a major character?
- carries weight of show

So what role did Adrianne play? According to IMDb she played Jessica Moore 4 times in the whole series
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1597316/

Supernatural (TV series)
Jessica Moore
– Free to Be You and Me (2009) … Jessica Moore
– What Is and What Should Never Be (2007) … Jessica Moore
– Bloody Mary (2005) … Jessica Moore
– Pilot (2005) … Jessica Moore

So do you consider that having a major part or carrying the weight of the show? So 4 appearances in a show means the same as being the lead female role in GI Joe, Wonder Woman? And according to the dates she apparently showed up twice in 2005, once 2 years later then once again 2 years later.

Ok theScribbler, you win. Having an occasional voice part on Robot Chicken makes her the main person carrying the whole show and since Robot Chicken hasn't gone belly up she's not the jump the shark actress.

So, clarifying what I asked is too hard? for you? Can't tell me if you think Sam's father is a recurring chraracter, a regular etc.? Not willing to discuss, inform, nada?

Obviously I know what I think, but I can't read your mind so I ask to see if we agree. I'd say Sam's father is a recurring character, a semi-regular, a major character, not a main character, and doesn't carry weight of the show. So I ask you to see if you had the same or similar definitions of the above, cause when it comes to your thought processes, I never know what to expect.

OK, I'll answer your questions even though you won't answer mine.

So do you consider that having a major part or carrying the weight of the show?
A major part: no
carrying weight of show: no

So 4 appearances in a show means the same as being the lead female role in GI Joe, Wonder Woman?
Clarify what you mean by "means the same," then I can answer. Give me context, sir!

And according to the dates she apparently showed up twice in 2005, once 2 years later then once again 2 years later.
And this is apropo of what = absolutely nothing.

Having an occasional voice part on Robot Chicken makes her the main person carrying the whole show
I'm pretty sure you don't believe this so why write it. I didn't write this, say it, imply it, so who this is meant for I've no idea.

and since Robot Chicken hasn't gone belly up she's not the jump the shark actress.
That's not the only reason, but your absolutely correct, she's not. Jump the shark refers to TV shows that like Happy Days, at a certain point, seem to have run too long, decline after the jump the shark. Doesn't apply to pilots, doesn't apply to movies, doesn't apply to Adrianne cause she's never joined a TV show in it's jump the shark declining years. And your "kiss of death" doesn't apply either, but your probably going to bring that up next, so I'll just wait for you.

In the meantime, I'll repeat...

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and now I await more Mr. X nonsense, or could it be: answers to my questions as asked. Ha. Not likely.

[Mr. X]

So 4 appearances in a show means the same as being the lead female role in GI Joe, Wonder Woman?

Clarify what you mean by "means the same," then I can answer. Give me context, sir!

That sentence is very clear. Are 4 appearances in a show the same as the lead female role in a major motion picture.

That's not the only reason, but your absolutely correct, she's not. Jump the shark refers to TV shows that like Happy Days, at a certain point, seem to have run too long, decline after the jump the shark. Doesn't apply to pilots, doesn't apply to movies, doesn't apply to Adrianne cause she's never joined a TV show in it's jump the shark declining years. And your "kiss of death" doesn't apply either, but your probably going to bring that up next, so I'll just wait for you.

You're right. Jump the shark is not the word. Kiss of death would be more the word as in every major project this chic has been in flopped.

[theScribbler]

So 4 appearances in a show means the same as being the lead female role in GI Joe, Wonder Woman?

Clarify what you mean by "means the same," then I can answer. Give me context, sir!

That sentence is very clear. Are 4 appearances in a show the same as the lead female role in a major motion picture.

What's unclear is the "same as" context.

Here's some "same as" context: financially the same, careerwise the same, give Mr. X a boner the same (probably only you can answer that one), and I can think of a dozen others, but if you can't explain what context you're going for, fuck if I'm going to help you. You can play dumb if you like.

And still can't answer my easy questions. Are you fearful of falling into a trap? Guess you expect to lose. Sir, you already have.


Oh wait, I can, in fact, answer the Mr. X boner "same as" context.

ah...hem

"Are four appearances of Palicki in a show (like Supernatural) the same as her appearing as lead female in WW pilot, or supporting female role in GI Joe as far as giving Mr. X a boner is concerned?"

The answer is YES. They're the same. They're the same at giving Mr. X a boner cause Palicki simply doesn't give Mr. X a boner under any circumstances. Ergo no boner from any of the above mentioned appearances, Mr. X will always be limp where Palicki is concerned.

There, did I get it right? Or did you have another "same as" context in mind? Was the "same as" question of any importance or relevance to the thread topic at hand? If so, how!? (no answers forthcoming I predict.)

That's not the only reason, but your absolutely correct, she's not. Jump the shark refers to TV shows that like Happy Days, at a certain point, seem to have run too long, decline after the jump the shark. Doesn't apply to pilots, doesn't apply to movies, doesn't apply to Adrianne cause she's never joined a TV show in it's jump the shark declining years. And your "kiss of death" doesn't apply either, but your probably going to bring that up next, so I'll just wait for you.

You're right. Jump the shark is not the word.

Kiss of death would be more the word as in every major project this chic has been in flopped.

and I repeat...




MAJOR PROJECT, successful show, big hit (aka NOT a flop).

in every major project this chic has been in flopped flopped flopped

You, sir, are in error.

Checkmate. You lose so easy.


Ah, march madness! Love NCAA basketball.



We're good, right? You don't take any of this personally I hope.

[Mr. X]

Yeah one show she hasn't scuttled out of the others she had major parts in. I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day.

[theScribbler]

Yeah one show she hasn't scuttled out of the others she had major parts in. I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Not true. She's had major parts as guest star in numerous shows. But of course, when you found that out, you changed the rules from your initial post. Welcome to Mr. X's moving target of rules to try to support his delusional myth initial post.

[tallyho]

Yeah one show she hasn't scuttled out of the others she had major parts in. I guess even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Not true. She's had major parts as guest star in numerous shows. But of course, when you found that out, you changed the rules from your initial post. Welcome to Mr. X's moving target of rules to try to support his delusional myth initial post.

In your own words 'as a guest star' - guest stars don't kill established series. The point was obvious in the initial post that she doesn't seem to carry off lead roles. Whether that's her or the script or her being miscast in the first place - who knows.

There's way too much vitriol flying around here - please remember what admin posted recently about avoiding personal attacks
Quite an innocent opinion was expressed initially and , unless Palicki is your sister I don't see that it warrants the vehemence you have shown. And ok, if she has been in 1successful show (but not so successful we see it in Europe, unlike the others where she has been in an odd episode) one out of 5 including her film projects is an 80% fail rate, which isn't good.
You obviously like her. Thats fine, others don't that's fine too.
Others like me have yet to see her in anything so I don't know if she's any good or not as an actress, but looks wise for me she.'s just mediocre.

But let's all just keep it polite between posters, please?

[theScribbler]

In your own words 'as a guest star' - guest stars don't kill established series. The point was obvious in the initial post that she doesn't seem to carry off lead roles. Whether that's her or the script or her being miscast in the first place - who knows.

There's way too much vitriol flying around here - please remember what admin posted recently about avoiding personal attacks
Quite an innocent opinion was expressed initially and , unless Palicki is your sister I don't see that it warrants the vehemence you have shown. And ok, if she has been in 1successful show (but not so successful we see it in Europe, unlike the others where she has been in an odd episode) one out of 5 including her film projects is an 80% fail rate, which isn't good.
You obviously like her. Thats fine, others don't that's fine too.
Others like me have yet to see her in anything so I don't know if she's any good or not as an actress, but looks wise for me she.'s just mediocre.

But let's all just keep it polite between posters, please?

Hmmm, your self declared "I don't see etc…" pretty much covers your whole post.

keep it polite between posters
How about polite to Ms. Palicki?

unless Palicki is your sister I don't see
A long time ago in a superheroine bondage forum far, far away…
Someone posted along the lines of "don't you guys think SuperBecca is getting long in the tooth?" SuperBecca, nice 30something community participant, took photos of herself in costume that the community appreciated. You should've seen all the people that jumped to her defense, me included. She must've been my sister. Must've been everyone's sister. OK, consider Adrianne my sister so you can see.

too much vitriol
vehemence you have shown
"Things a Mr. X fanboy would say?" (I'm thinking of an old TV gameshow. Probably not shown in Europe.)

And what do you call this stuff: "jump the shark, kiss of death, jump the shark (2nd x), kiss of death (2nd x), kiss of death (3rd x), failed, failed, failed, failed, flop, flat." And also the condescending crap to me (I don't care though, bring it.)

See what you want to see, tallyho. I'm not in denial or anything, I know I shot right back.

guest stars don't kill established series
and guest star in not-established series, guest star on the moon, small parts, big parts, recurring, non-recurring, regular, semi-regular, voice over, parts on series only shown on tuesdays, etc. etc. that shits all mute now. All that "small part, one time appearances, etc" additional criteria after OP of what doesn't count, what counts, is all BS subterfuge anyway. Ridiculous hypothesis like [any actor's name, any person's name] = kiss of death doesn't become less ridiculous no matter what conditional criteria you or anyone adds to it. This hypothesis' only function is to insult.

You obviously like her. Thats fine, others don't that's fine too.
Obvious agreement here.

1successful show (but not so successful we see it in Europe,
Friday Night Lights is an American Football drama. I'm going to guess the American Football part is why it's "not so successful" in Europe.

if she has been in 1successful show
She's been in more than one. Was so pre this weekend, and especially now after (see other thread). But I only had to list one to counter when Mr. X said every major project this chic has been in flopped. One counters Every (in this context), EVERY time.

80% fail rate, which isn't good.
Your 80% so-called fail rate, erroneously arrived at: isn't good, isn't bad, it isn't anything: it's irrelevant, it's bogus. Some actors, think Dan Radcliffe, get an awesome role from the get go. Fortune smiling on some people happens. And that's great. Some actors struggle at first, take on whatever acting gig they can get cast for, do the best they can, and someday, may get better opportunities and get better and better roles. Some actors never get the break they're seeking. Actors' careers have various journeys. Some wannabe actors never get cast. Competition is fierce. And from the stacks of 8x10s I've seen, it's about 5:1 actresses seeking parts vs actors seeking parts.

Adrianne Palicki's plenty good. Her career is in good shape, progressing nicely. And for good reason. She's a good actress. By actual acting standards, not slamboy she's-not-pretty-to-me standards. She's plenty pretty, attractive, to most people with eyes. She's doing just fine. Directors and Producers, Casting Directors and Agencies know their jobs; when they cast Adrianne, they know what they're doing. How many actresses did she get past to get the Lady Jaye role? Lots. Why'd they go with her, pay her really good money? Cause she's GOOD.

Quite an innocent opinion was expressed initially
You're funny. Good joke. "Thing a Mr. X fanboy would say?"

This whole thread was started for no other reason than for Mr. X to knock Adrianne Palicki. That's it, that's it's sole purpose. To make fun of her, by someone who doesn't even know her, never met her, and yet has a grudge against her for apparently, well, I don't know what she did to him. There's nothing valid in his opening hypothesis, it's just a number of insults and bad jokes. I'd suggest Mr. X can do better than this, but I actually don't think he can. Clearly, this is who he is. He can't do any better than whine about something. Remember the whining Piracy thread that's gone now.

But success is the best revenge! See other thread.

[tallyho]

Not a fanboy, just someone who doesn't see the need for such abuse to anyone who posts here.
It's fairly obvious there is only one fanboy on this thread.
The repetition in the original post isn't vehemence - its a debating device used to make and emphasise the point being made. That's all (just like 'and these are honourable men' in Julius Caesar ( and no.I'm not equating Mr X to WS, just illustrating that's what gets done in debating a point)
It wasn't particularly insulting to Ms Palicki as he made no personal attacks on her physical appearance, nor directly on her acting ability and simply commented on the fact she seemed a bit of a Jonah, as I said the final output is down to script, being miscast etc there are all sorts of reasons why these things can fail. I don't see what was said as being anything other than an opinion. I doubt she resides here anyway - he just made as he saw it a statement, your counter argument could have just been 'What about XYZ?' rather than the condescension you showed with your first post.
Given you went to great lengths to list all her bit parts I just assumed you listed all.her successful starring roles too. Obviously not. My only reason for mentioning the 1in5 success rate (Or apparent success rate) was that it seemed to validate Mr X s assumption, if she has made other shows in a starring role then again to answer the point you could have said what about XYZ. So fair enough if she has been in stuff that's lasted good on her. Just wonder what it is?

At least it being a US football show explains why we ain't got it over here (we use our feet for football )

As for her looks -
What can I say other than she doesn't do it for me? You saying that she is fit by any standards I can only counter with she doesn't turn me on. Different tastes is all. (Grew up with CZJ so been spoilt). To me she is nothing special, to you she is. That's all.

I don't wish ill of anybody so if she is gonna be the next big thing good for her and bully for you but I still don't see quite why you are raving so much about one guys opinion.
The whole point of the forum is to express opinions and have civilised discussion about whatever the topic.
I just don't feel the way you have expressed yourself is conducive to this. I thought you were/ might have been drunk when you posted your first post, that's how wild an over reaction it seemed
Your other thread talking about killing this one came across as the ravings of a mad man, which
a) I don't think you are (just a bit excitable where AP is concerned) and
b) probably wasn't what you were going for.
If she's good in GI Joe I look forward to seeing it.
(It's had pretty dreadful reviews this side of the water, BUT as I said in my other post that doesn't necessarily mean she is bad in it, but by the same token good reviews for the film don't mean she is necessarily good in it either - it just comes down to personal opinion)

[theScribbler]

I'm sorry tallyho. I thought you were a fan of Mr. X. My mistake.

The post IS "particularly insulting to Ms Palicki" because that's all it was posted for, to insult her. It was no great insight. It was of no great value or observation. He so so so so so wanted the GI Joe movie to fail so he could use it as a catalyst to slam her. Don't know why really. But the intent is obvious. Though not to you.

This statement: She's the kiss of death, that's an insult.
This hypothesis: AP = new jump the shark actress or AP = kiss of death, those are insults.
He also did a version of the A Fish Called Wanda insult joke "calling you stupid is an insult to stupid people" but I don't expect you to pick up on it. I'll bet you don't even see it, but it's there.

If you don't see it for yourself, then no one can explain it to you. You can't see the obvious. So we disagree. Which is fine.

Yes, my counter argument could have been any number of different things, including what it was.

I already agreed it's fine for you, or anyone, not to like her.

"raving so much about one guys opinion" is actually "defending AP from the OP slam same as we defended SuperBecca." Of course, there were so many defenders then and not just me, so I had lot less to say. If you remember the ole Mr. X Piracy thread here, I said nothing. Bultavia and others had it covered.

This thread started with anything but a "civilized" opening post. My follow ups reflected back the opening post, as in: was insulting too.

"ravings of a mad man?" Only cause you've taken a side. It's like political spin. You spin it your way, and actually believe your spin. Which I suppose is pretty common, happens all the time.

I don't take this stuff all as seriously as it might sound. But why defend AP in a wishy-washy way. It was a rude-ass OP attack on Adrianne no matter how you want to spin it.

What's amusing to me is Mr. X posted this today in this thread at 2:37p PST…

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and I thought, OK, some back-pedaling is good. And I thought maybe this would be an opportunity for me to backtrack on some of the harsher stuff I said. But then he deleted it. (Doubt admin would.) Did he decide at around 4:15p that he just couldn't stand to say anything nice about Adrianne? Didn't sit well? Can't let people know he likes her legs? I've no idea.

[Mr. X]

Did he decide at around 4:15p that he just couldn't stand to say anything nice about Adrianne? Didn't sit well? Can't let people know he likes her legs? I've no idea.

After reading your post I realized you have some issues that adding to any discussion will not solve. Have fun with the board. Its all yours.

[theScribbler]

Did he decide at around 4:15p that he just couldn't stand to say anything nice about Adrianne? Didn't sit well? Can't let people know he likes her legs? I've no idea.

After reading your post I realized you have some issues that adding to any discussion will not solve. Have fun with the board. Its all yours.

The issues are all yours, sir. Read your opening post, look in the mirror, and if you're honest with yourself, all will be revealed to you.

[Mr. X]

The issues are all yours, sir. Read your opening post, look in the mirror, and if you're honest with yourself, all will be revealed to you.

Yes like your intolerance of anyone else's opinion. I retracted my comment because quite frankly even if I agreed with your position you simply would look for an excuse to look for something to complain about. And its not just me, I also saw the vitriol you spewed at Ms. Carter. So by all means the board is yours. I'll be asking Hypnotic to remove me from the forum since obviously I won't get a chance to post anything here anyway.

[theScribbler]

The issues are all yours, sir. Read your opening post, look in the mirror, and if you're honest with yourself, all will be revealed to you.

Yes like your intolerance of anyone else's opinion. I retracted my comment because quite frankly even if I agreed with your position you simply would look for an excuse to look for something to complain about. And its not just me, I also saw the vitriol you spewed at Ms. Carter. So by all means the board is yours. I'll be asking Hypnotic to remove me from the forum since obviously I won't get a chance to post anything here anyway.

You mean: my objection to your insults.

So you missed the part where I said that post made me think maybe this would be an opportunity to backtrack.

Ms. Carter? You are full of shit. I love Ms. Carter. When I saw a pissing contest, I pointed it out and asked for them to forgive her and move on. I said she was lovely. Please quote this wild accusation of yours. You sir, are the ultimate liar. You are deluded out your mind. You drunk or something. You make scandalous accusations like that you better back it up before you go.

So melodramatic. You live in your own little world, little kingdom where you think your pompous and condescending ways should be sanctioned and praised by your subjects. Got news of you. None of us are your subjects.

[admin]

I don't know what's going on lately, is there some major board angst bubbling underneath the surface that I am unaware of? This whole thread got a little ridiculous. Too bad, too, because it's an interesting subject and if you separate the actual opinions from all the other mudslinging, there's some good discussion here and, hell, I learned something about AP.

Mr. X is allowed to state an OPINION, that's what forums are for. People are expected to respond and not always agree. No doubt some of us are passionate about certain characters or actresses and that's ok. We're all fanboys in one way or another.
Scribbler, you've been on this forum for a few years now and I've never seen you react like this, it makes me think there might be something else going on here beyond defending the honor of Ms. Palicki.

Regardless, take it offline. I don't think Mr. X should leave the board and I think this whole thing needs to just end so I am going to lock the thread. You can respond to me through PM if anyone feels the need.