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Posted: **Fri Jul 12, 2024 2:40 am**

jlocke wrote: ↑
1 year ago
Starlight's Ass

Keeping in mind that this is the shape shifter and not the real Annie. Is it Erin Moriarty's ass, a body double's ass, or an CGI/AI ass? Look closely.

Starlights ass.gif

After close examination, I have reached the conclusion that it's a fabulous ass and the details don't matter.

Posted: **Fri Jul 12, 2024 2:42 am**

BTW, I have to ask @jlocke: which site are you using for those porny AI images? "Asking for a friend."

Posted: **Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:22 pm**

NotUv2 wrote: ↑
1 year ago
(A lot like your standard "the Woke are the Church Ladies and the Moral Majority" schtick, demonstrably absurd in the actual world we are living in, which is why you're ludicrously and hilariously defensive every time someone actually refers to the actual world and to who is doing what therein).

As opposed to your inability to see the same old repeated patterns. You think you're the new hotness - you're not. As for the real world, its you stuck in 1980. You have no idea about the people you criticize, only memes you read. The whole show is based on 1980 memes.

Posted: **Fri Jul 12, 2024 12:24 pm**

NotUv2 wrote: ↑
1 year ago
BTW, I have to ask @jlocke: which site are you using for those porny AI images? "Asking for a friend."

All of the AI tools in this thread are very useful:
viewtopic.php?t=38311

For most of the images I've posted in this thread I used this program to generate an AI image:
https://perchance.org/free-nsfw-ai-generator

Then I upscale them with this program:
https://create.pixelcut.ai/upscaler

Then I use this program to put the actress/sexy political goddess' face onto the image:
https://aifaceswap.io/

I have had the most success generating lots of AI images and refining the prompt with 1 change in the text. Then picking the best of these images, upscaling, and then using multiple photos of an actress' face, faceswap, then choosing the best. Even after all that sometimes, it's a dud. So I put them in archive, and try a different AI image.

Here's the original AI generated image of Starlight:

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I believe this is the face image that worked best on this image:

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Which makes this:

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Biggest problems so far are fingers and eyes. If I really like the image, I'll photoshop the eyes and/or fingers. If you look closely in the original AI image, Starlight has 12 fingers.

Posted: **Fri Jul 12, 2024 6:01 pm**

jlocke wrote: ↑
1 year ago

NotUv2 wrote: ↑
1 year ago
BTW, I have to ask @jlocke: which site are you using for those porny AI images? "Asking for a friend."
All of the AI tools in this thread are very useful

[useful information ensues]

Thanks! I'm actually tempted to try a little tinkering with some of that.

Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2024 12:49 am**

jlocke wrote: ↑
1 year ago
Starlight's Ass

Keeping in mind that this is the shape shifter and not the real Annie. Is it Erin Moriarty's ass, a body double's ass, or an CGI/AI ass? Look closely.

Starlights ass.gif

That girl looks good but over 40 for sure. Erin Moriarty is only 30.

Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:37 am**

Mr. X wrote: ↑
1 year ago

jlocke wrote: ↑
1 year ago

Just because it was horrible for Huey to be raped and tortured, shouldn't negate the horribleness of Starlight being coerced into giving The Deep a blowjob.
I just want consistent rules and I also want some kinky fun back. No its not about turns. We can have both.

I too pine for the olden days of Batgirl and WW on TV. Where April Dancer and Emma Peel were regularly tied up and 99 was always in the latest fashions.

The reality of that time was not as cool for the women that lived it. Batgirl wasn't allowed to punch or use judo because the producers thought it wouldn't be lady like. Emma Peel was tied up specifically to feed the male gaze. What happened off camera was much worse. Producers would have bedrooms directly off their offices. What happened to Annie with Deep was the norm, not some one off exception. Abuse, emotional and sexual abuse were common. Big stars and little were constantly hit on, forced to take speed to lose weight, and sleeping pills at the end of the day. They were bullied into looking a certain way, dating certain people and fucking producers for work.

It happened to men on a much smaller scale, but a lot of women today have some type of experience similar to Annie's. What Hughie went through was wrong, but A) it's a lot less common. B) his character was impersonating another character and allowed it to keep from blowing his cover.

The show is trying to be outrageous, that is half the fun. There are going to be limits that they opt not to cross. You might have noticed, despite the blatant racism of characters like Storm Front, no one is dropping the N-word. Deep coerced Annie into blow job, he didn't beat her into submission and rape her. Home Lander can cut someone in half with his laser eyes, but they won't have him outright rape a woman. It would cross a line that would make the character unwatchable. What he did to Web Weaver was disturbing, but no home viewer is going to think.... Wow my boss did that to
Chet in accounting when I fresh out of college. Few men get tied across a wooden horse and sodomized in exchange for being made a side kick.

What happened to Annie was less violent than what happened to Hughie, but it was a much more likely shared experience among viewers than what Hughie experience, it couldn't be done for laughs.

I was watching the first season of Reacher a few months ago and enjoyed it. It has a sensibility that is very right wing and I was fine with it because the action was good, the female lead was cute. I turned it off midway through the second season because the Reacher wasn't killing out of necessity he was murdering bad guys in cold blood. They were bad people, but they were unarmed and had given up and he killed them anyway. It made the character too big an asshole for me to care about. He was no longer standing for law, he just as bad as the villains.

Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:42 am**

CIA wrote: ↑
1 year ago

jlocke wrote: ↑
1 year ago
Starlight's Ass

Keeping in mind that this is the shape shifter and not the real Annie. Is it Erin Moriarty's ass, a body double's ass, or an CGI/AI ass? Look closely.

Starlights ass.gif
That girl looks good but over 40 for sure. Erin Moriarty is only 30.

That was a very cherry looking piece of ass. Maybe we will see Starlight finding her way into Tech Knight's now abandoned dungeon... I wouldn't mind seeing her stretched out on the same St Andrew's cross.... espcially if that round ass was properly exposed.

Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:32 am**

sneakly wrote: ↑
1 year ago

CIA wrote: ↑
1 year ago

jlocke wrote: ↑
1 year ago
Starlight's Ass

Keeping in mind that this is the shape shifter and not the real Annie. Is it Erin Moriarty's ass, a body double's ass, or an CGI/AI ass? Look closely.

Starlights ass.gif
That girl looks good but over 40 for sure. Erin Moriarty is only 30.
That was a very cherry looking piece of ass. Maybe we will see Starlight finding her way into Tech Knight's now abandoned dungeon... I wouldn't mind seeing her stretched out on the same St Andrew's cross.... espcially if that round ass was properly exposed.

YES!!! Bring back medieval bdsm torture for these heroines!!! We and THEY deserve it!!!

Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2024 12:40 pm**

sneakly wrote: ↑
1 year ago
I was watching the first season of Reacher a few months ago and enjoyed it. It has a sensibility that is very right wing and I was fine with it because the action was good, the female lead was cute. I turned it off midway through the second season because the Reacher wasn't killing out of necessity he was murdering bad guys in cold blood. They were bad people, but they were unarmed and had given up and he killed them anyway. It made the character too big an asshole for me to care about. He was no longer standing for law, he just as bad as the villains.

Slight tangent but I went off Reacher as well.

I think aside from all the other issues, guy actually playing Reacher got too big. People don't talk about it so much, but we're in an era of muscle-bound action heroes that rivals peak Arnie in the 1980s. Alan Ritchson is a cube of muscle, Henry Cavill is a cube of muscle, Jason Momoa is a cube of muscle, The Rock, Dave Bautista, and others, are just insanely jacked to the point where they look absurd playing any role that isn't "Man who never drinks water and lives in the gym."

Let more transwomen direct action movies, somebody needs to reinvent the genre again like the Wachowskis did with The Matrix.

Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2024 1:01 pm**

Not to be that guy, but, can we talk about last night's episode? Those were a couple of good scenes at the end, eh? Although, I do have a spoilery question...

Spoiler

Does the shapeshifter absorb memories as well? Because otherwise, there are a couple things that don't add up for me.

-Masmune

Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2024 2:09 pm**

Masmune wrote: ↑
1 year ago
Not to be that guy, but, can we talk about last night's episode? Those were a couple of good scenes at the end, eh? Although, I do have a spoilery question...

Does the shapeshifter absorb memories as well? Because otherwise, there are a couple things that don't add up for me.

-Masmune

Spoiler

I noticed that as well. One of two possibilities, the shape shifter had the conversation about Hughie retrieving the costume because it had already replaced Annie or it had been spying on them to prepare to replace Annie as a convincing double. At least we might some decent Annie in Peril scenes out of the show. I would be interested in seeing what perversions Firecracker might come up with...

Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2024 4:34 pm**

Spoiler

My guess is Sage was setting up the Boys to be blamed for the president's assassination and make it some Homelander comes in and either catches them and/or save the saves the president while catching them. In any event shapeshifters almost always means a frame up or sabotage.
Homelander's first strategy is just better. Kill the Boys. No one will complain since they are covert.

I've been wondering, if the boys had not meddled in any of this and just left these people alone, would Homelander be this radical or would he have just been a sensation and leave it at that. Have the Boys done anything useful at all? Or did their actions radicalize Homelander. Except for the occasional civilian and that fiasco with the airplane, HL pretty much kills asshole supers.

Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:17 pm**

Huge questions answered this week. Does Starlight look hot without her boots? And what does Starlight wear under her skirt?

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Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2024 7:18 pm**

Spoiler

Yeah, but how did they know the safe code then? I might have to rewatch that sequence.

sneakly wrote: ↑
1 year ago

Masmune wrote: ↑
1 year ago
Not to be that guy, but, can we talk about last night's episode? Those were a couple of good scenes at the end, eh? Although, I do have a spoilery question...

Does the shapeshifter absorb memories as well? Because otherwise, there are a couple things that don't add up for me.

-Masmune

Spoiler
I noticed that as well. One of two possibilities, the shape shifter had the conversation about Hughie retrieving the costume because it had already replaced Annie or it had been spying on them to prepare to replace Annie as a convincing double. At least we might some decent Annie in Peril scenes out of the show. I would be interested in seeing what perversions Firecracker might come up with...

Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:40 pm**

great sequence.

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Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2024 10:55 pm**

OO! Awesome. Ok this show maybe redeeming itself!

Posted: **Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:23 pm**

Hey! You guys figured out there were hot superheroines on the show. Wow! I'm proud of you.

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Starlight's O-face is impressive.

Posted: **Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:26 pm**

jlocke wrote: ↑
1 year ago
Hey! You guys figured out there were hot superheroines on the show. Wow! I'm proud of you.

starlight3.gif

Starlight's O-face is impressive.

Actually given the piss poor track record and stingy scenes... no I had no idea this show was going to have some kinky normal sexy heroine stuff.

Posted: **Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:34 pm**

Mr. X wrote: ↑
1 year ago

jlocke wrote: ↑
1 year ago
Hey! You guys figured out there were hot superheroines on the show. Wow! I'm proud of you.

starlight3.gif

Starlight's O-face is impressive.
Actually given the piss poor track record and stingy scenes... no I had no idea this show was going to have some kinky normal sexy heroine stuff.

Did you miss Herogasm? Firecracker? Popclaw? Crimson Countess? Stormfront?

Posted: **Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:47 pm**

jlocke wrote: ↑
1 year ago

Mr. X wrote: ↑
1 year ago

jlocke wrote: ↑
1 year ago
Hey! You guys figured out there were hot superheroines on the show. Wow! I'm proud of you.

starlight3.gif

Starlight's O-face is impressive.
Actually given the piss poor track record and stingy scenes... no I had no idea this show was going to have some kinky normal sexy heroine stuff.
Did you miss Herogasm? Firecracker? Popclaw? Crimson Countess? Stormfront?

That's sex stuff. Not heroine erotica. Any show can have sex stuff in it, big deal. And those are the first two seasons. Yeah first season had some nice stuff. Just cause someone's in a costume doesn't mean it checks a box.

Posted: **Sun Jul 14, 2024 6:34 pm**

Mr. X wrote: ↑
1 year ago

jlocke wrote: ↑
1 year ago

Mr. X wrote: ↑
1 year ago

jlocke wrote: ↑
1 year ago
Hey! You guys figured out there were hot superheroines on the show. Wow! I'm proud of you.

starlight3.gif

Starlight's O-face is impressive.
Actually given the piss poor track record and stingy scenes... no I had no idea this show was going to have some kinky normal sexy heroine stuff.
Did you miss Herogasm? Firecracker? Popclaw? Crimson Countess? Stormfront?
That's sex stuff. Not heroine erotica. Any show can have sex stuff in it, big deal. And those are the first two seasons. Yeah first season had some nice stuff. Just cause someone's in a costume doesn't mean it checks a box.

I mentioned something from all 4 seasons. 3, 4, 1, 3, and 2. Superheroine cam show with benwa balls, Actual superheroine pornstar, superheroine getting her tits lasered, multiple superheroine catfights, superheroine with lactating tits, superheroine ko with crowbar, superheroine getting fucked in midair, superheroine fucking multiple teammates, superheroine orgy, superheroine cloroformed.

I feel like maybe you're letting certain outside perspectives interfere with your enjoyment of this show. But, if your dick doesn't get excited about this stuff, I can't argue with it.

I really, really love Firecracker.

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She won my heart, but my dick was close behind. The crowbar KO was awesome. And the costume, new and old, the holy than thou thing. Come on man, she lactates, I've read your comics for over 20 years, I KNOW you like that.

I think it's up to those of us who love superheroine erotica, to make superheroine erotica. If you don't like how the story goes, change it. You're a really good artist, you could do an entire "The Boys" parody but from a...whatever perspective you want to call it. Dude, I would fucking buy that. You can do versions of all those characters and make them sexy, make them conservative, make them whatever. Just knock them out, tie them up, and rape them. I also prefer they be impregnated, and milked, but I'm a weirdo. Ok, and turned into sex slaves and made to work at a strip club.

Posted: **Mon Jul 15, 2024 4:49 pm**

I don't think my girl is going to survive the season finale. But she will live on in my humble attempts to make perverted photos of her. And, there is a full costume for sale now, so, wifey might be getting a surprise present.

Here's Rebecca Seals wearing it:

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She does a lot of "The Boys" cosplay as well as many other superheroine.

https://www.instagram.com/rebeccaseals/

https://twitter.com/rebeccaseal

Posted: **Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:42 pm**

I don't play Call of Duty, but they have some pretty cool skins:

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Totally not horrifying.

Posted: **Tue Jul 16, 2024 2:03 pm**

Some fight game also has Homelander, Star light and Firecracker characters now.

Posted: **Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:59 pm**

I gotta say, any time Alex David did any kind of roll or slide or any action type stuff, I fucking loved it.

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This epic toss would be amazing in a superheroine erotica film. I think they did it on a green screen and Firecracker is on a wire landing against a padded wall (not a floor).

Praise the stunt doubles!

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I really need to talk to both of you in my trailer.

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Holy shit they are hot.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:34 pm**

The season finale is tomorrow, so it's time to get our last minute predictions in. Currently we have:

A shapeshifting supe assassin. This operative has stolen all the leverage The Boys had against Victoria Neuman. We saw Sage talking to the shapeshifter. Was this part of the Sage/Homelander plan, or has Sage and Newman gone rouge? What will the shapeshifter's final assassin form be? Will she (I think) shoot the President Elect as Starlight? One of The Boys? Wildcard - she appears as Homelander and lasers the President.

Sage has been fired from The Seven. Her big brain seemingly outwitted by Homelander, America's Sweetheart Firecracker, and an unfortunate bullet to the brain. Or has she? She never wanted to be a part of The Seven, has she been working a secret plan all along? Possibly with Newman?

Starlight has been chloroformed and chained. Will she escape in time to help The Boys? Rescue by Huey?

A-Train has finally turned against Homelander. Is he dead? Very dead? Or just mostly dead?

Firecracker has caused maximum chaos and anger, she's underpowered compared to the rest of the supes, and her lactating tits are the only plot armor she has left. Will the writers do the unspeakable and kill this innocent, God loving, gorgeous angel?

Will The Boys release the Supe-Virus and kill Neuman, hurt Homelander, kill lots of innocent supes? The supe kids? Will Sameer emerge with a Supe-Virus Vaccine/Antidote/miracle protection for his family?

What else am I missing?

Right. This suspicious photo. Is it from the wrap party? Are we going to get a single scene (January 6) with every single The Boys main and secondary characters? Or is it a shameful, disgusting, horrifying homage to the worst moment in the entire MCU? That I actually quite liked.

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Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2024 10:40 pm**

On the preview they showed soldier boy though that could be a ruse or flash back.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:05 pm**

So nobody has mentioned that The Boys Season 4 finale is going through with a presidential assassination plot one week after an attempted presidential assassination (except the intended target was Republican instead of Democrat like Singer). I bet Kripke, Rogen and their crew are like, "Yes! We are so relevant! Huge viewership numbers for the finale!"

And yes, those Firecracker Doublemint Twins are super hot.

Posted: **Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:37 pm**

Mr. X wrote: ↑
1 year ago
On the preview they showed soldier boy though that could be a ruse or flash back.

I did a Season 3 rewatch. Soldier Boy was so good. I hope they bring him back.

Posted: **Thu Jul 18, 2024 8:11 am**

shevek wrote: ↑
1 year ago
So nobody has mentioned that The Boys Season 4 finale is going through with a presidential assassination plot one week after an attempted presidential assassination (except the intended target was Republican instead of Democrat like Singer). I bet Kripke, Rogen and their crew are like, "Yes! We are so relevant! Huge viewership numbers for the finale!"

And yes, those Firecracker Doublemint Twins are super hot.

What would you see as an appropriate response from Kripke and Amazon? Postponing/cancelling the episode?

Posted: **Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:00 am**

Heroine Addict wrote: ↑
1 year ago

shevek wrote: ↑
1 year ago
So nobody has mentioned that The Boys Season 4 finale is going through with a presidential assassination plot one week after an attempted presidential assassination (except the intended target was Republican instead of Democrat like Singer). I bet Kripke, Rogen and their crew are like, "Yes! We are so relevant! Huge viewership numbers for the finale!"

And yes, those Firecracker Doublemint Twins are super hot.
What would you see as an appropriate response from Kripke and Amazon? Postponing/cancelling the episode?

Or adding some kind of disclaimer to the end of it. It's been done before when deemed appropriate.
But you know they're not going to do that.

Meanwhile, here's Nour Jaghama already dressed up as the activist superheroine Code Pink Girl.
Her powers include turning 'visibly Palestinian'!

Anyway, looking forward to the Season Finale tonight.

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Posted: **Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:21 am**

Thoughts and prayers to all the not yet, but possible triggered Trump supporters, both real and imaginary. It is a truly difficult time to distinguish between an Amazon Prime TV show and the U.S. Presidential campaign. I know a disclaimer before the finale, that everyone who has watched the show, knows is going to revolve around a plot to kill the President-elect, telling us that the plot tonight will revolve around an assassination attempt on the President-elect would really set my mind at ease. As one of the most empathetic human beings I've ever encountered, Donald Trump should be afforded the respect and sympathy he himself has shown so often in situations like this.

Posted: **Thu Jul 18, 2024 3:34 pm**

Fire Cracker's butt in the hallway chase was nice. Seems they are getting in more fan service shots.

Posted: **Thu Jul 18, 2024 3:50 pm**

Mr. X wrote: ↑
1 year ago
Fire Cracker's butt in the hallway chase was nice. Seems they are getting in more fan service shots.

Hell yeah! I think I saw some ass cheeks. And Starlight said Fuck a few times, and I really liked hearing the "Good" girl saying that. Even if once she wasn't herself.

Posted: **Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:01 pm**

jlocke wrote: ↑
1 year ago
Thoughts and prayers to all the not yet, but possible triggered Trump supporters, both real and imaginary. It is a truly difficult time to distinguish between an Amazon Prime TV show and the U.S. Presidential campaign. I know a disclaimer before the finale, that everyone who has watched the show, knows is going to revolve around a plot to kill the President-elect, telling us that the plot tonight will revolve around an assassination attempt on the President-elect would really set my mind at ease. As one of the most empathetic human beings I've ever encountered, Donald Trump should be afforded the respect and sympathy he himself has shown so often in situations like this.

Well, apparently he was accorded at least some respect. No disclaimer, but the episode title was changed from "Assassination Run" to "Season Four Finale" pretty much at the last minute.

In other news, if anyone is going to be at San Diego Comicon, the company that makes the suits for The Boys and Gen V (as well as Titans, Stargirl and Black Lightning) has a panel that will probably knock your socks off if you like to hear about the design of tight expensive superheroine costumes!

Posted: **Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:34 pm**

https://x.com/CultureCrave/status/1813854573809013145
They did add a disclaimer

Posted: **Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:26 pm**

shevek wrote: ↑
1 year ago

Well, apparently he was accorded at least some respect. No disclaimer, but the episode title was changed from "Assassination Run" to "Season Four Finale" pretty much at the last minute.

In other news, if anyone is going to be at San Diego Comicon, the company that makes the suits for The Boys and Gen V (as well as Titans, Stargirl and Black Lightning) has a panel that will probably knock your socks off if you like to hear about the design of tight expensive superheroine costumes!

why is your pic so big?

Posted: **Fri Jul 19, 2024 10:37 am**

Mr. X wrote: ↑
1 year ago

shevek wrote: ↑
1 year ago

Well, apparently he was accorded at least some respect. No disclaimer, but the episode title was changed from "Assassination Run" to "Season Four Finale" pretty much at the last minute.

In other news, if anyone is going to be at San Diego Comicon, the company that makes the suits for The Boys and Gen V (as well as Titans, Stargirl and Black Lightning) has a panel that will probably knock your socks off if you like to hear about the design of tight expensive superheroine costumes!

Mr. X wrote: ↑
1 year ago
https://x.com/CultureCrave/status/1813854573809013145
They did add a disclaimer

why is your pic so big?

Sorry, but the copy of the Season Finale that I watched didn't have a disclaimer at the beginning. Makes sense that they added it, though.
Exactly as I predicted they would.

My "pic" (of the San Diego Comicon panel) is "so big" because it's not a "pic". It's just a straight link to the LJ Supersuits IG page.
I think that anyone who watches mainstream superhero shows and appreciates the intricacy and the tightness of the costumes should be giving LJ Supersuits a follow, at least. Whether you brave the immense crowds at SDCC to attend their panel is up to you.

Anyone notice these random things which get thrown in to the Boys?

1) Kripke and Rogen, as Hollywood Jews, have a small obsession with throwing in surface-level Jewish content into various episodes.
For example, recently there was a superhero battle in the middle of a Bat Mitzvah, and the season finale begins with a rousing rendition of "Hava Nagila". To me, it's interesting, then, that there are no identifiably Jewish characters in The Boys. I mean, it's not something Garth Ennis would think of, but Kripke dedicated the Season Finale to his dad Larry who recently passed away, and who was apparently the owner of a metal-recycling business and a pillar of the Toledo Jewish community, and then there's of course his reference to his philosopher cousin Saul Kripke. So, you'd think there'd at least be some kind of Shmuley Boteach-esque 'rabbi on a podcast' or something in this show, if not a full-on Jewish superhero character.

2) In every single episode, Marvin Milk is wearing a T-shirt of a different 'conscious political rap' group from the late 80s/early 90s (Dead Prez, Black Sheep, and so on). Kripke, being a younger Gen-Xer, would have been in high school when the 'Native Tongues' crew was big in the hiphop world, so he probably would have been into all of those groups. Of course, actor Laz Alonso is the exact same age as Kripke, so both of them could have agreed to make that very obvious costuming choice. It'd be interesting to find out whose idea it was.

Posted: **Fri Jul 19, 2024 10:39 am**

If you haven't seen the episode, don't read this.

The entire premise of the season was the President trying to kill the VP and the VP trying to kill the President. Shooting wrapped months ago and all but the finale had been broadcast. I don't think they would have been able to change anything at this point anyway.

If Trump had been hit in the head, it might have been different, especially since Neuman's superpower was making head's explode.

Any guesses as to what is up with Firecracker's cough? I am guessing she has a natural or escaped verrsion of the virus.

Being vastly too optimistic form my own good, It looks like Starlight is going full Penelope Pitstop. She spends the entire last season being pursued by supes trying to kill her bizarrely sexual ways. Penis guy showed up again, maybe Firecracker and Starlight will get some alone time.

No big surprise in Sage showing up again claiming all the credit.... that was the lamest and most predictable twist imaginable....

Posted: **Fri Jul 19, 2024 10:50 am**

So, Season 4 finale was pretty good, I think... I'd give it an 8/10.

Spoiler

The shapeshifter was cool, as was the reveal -- not entirely unexpected -- that once Butcher surrendered to the impulses of the tentacled Vought-thing growing inside him (speaking in the voice of Kessler) he was not only no longer ill but also profoundly dangerous.

The fascist takeover at the end was, like, pretty obviously where the season was always going, true to The Boys being so totally outmatched at every stage of things. The way they showed everyone getting rounded up / scattered to the winds at the end -- some interesting appearances by Gen V characters along the way -- was pretty neat, be interesting to see how they resolve all that.

The continual chamber of horrors at Vought got dialed up to eleven, which I liked. Firecracker is literally killing herself in pursuit of Homelander's approval, which... pretty apt parallel for similar phenomena IRL. The Deep and Black Noire 2.0 bonding over murder is surreal and darkly funny. And Ashley... well. Should be interesting to see what comes of that.

Kinda disappointed a bit in the resolution of Sage's arc. Shows and movies that have super-intelligent characters with all-encompassing plans-within-plans often run into the problem where it seems like the baddie is just failing a lot and claiming after the fact that it was All Part of the Plan. This was trrue of Thrawn on Ahsoka, the Joker in The Dark Knight -- said with all due love and respect for Ledger, PBUH -- and I think it's kinda true of Sage here. Although at least she walked in with a solution to a major piece of the puzzle that the baddies needed, given her a bit of added credibility, still there is a lot of handwaving going on here.

Post-credit reveal? Also a bit... meh for me. I was not sorry to see the back of Soldier Boy -- he just made for more Deconstructed Patriotic Superhero Vibe than one show really needed -- so hopefully something a bit different happens with his clone or whatever is going on here.

Solidly entertaining season. Will watch the next one.

Posted: **Fri Jul 19, 2024 11:40 am**

sneakly wrote: ↑
1 year ago
Any guesses as to what is up with Firecracker's cough? I am guessing she has a natural or escaped verrsion of the virus.

You must have missed it, but in the meeting of The Seven in the season finale, Firecracker explains that the medicines she is taking to induce her breast milk production for Homelander are making her sick by breaking down her immune system. She doesn't have any virus.

Posted: **Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:40 pm**

I saw that, but they wouldn’t include it if it wasn’t leading somewhere. I am thinking she is incubating something that will play a big part in season five.

Posted: **Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:21 pm**

Butcher's supe-tumor is horrifying. Victoria deserved what she got due to all the murders, but I think she would have been a better ally than corpse. Hughie was right. Currently free enemies of Vought: Butcher, Starlight, A-Train, Ashley, uh, is that it? Need to rewatch the finale. Puppet President, Homelander in charge of the U.S.. Concentration camps for the...Starlighters. Very unrealistic in the real world. No Authoritarian, anti-democratic, self loving, narcissist, with a deep hatred for anyone who doesn't love him, would ever round up their political opponents and put them in camps. Not in the real world. Never been done before. Well, other than Germany. And Russia. I mean we did that a little, but it was like, a serious war. So anyway, "The Boys" really jumped the reality shark there.

However, Firecracker is sick due to the lactation drugs she's taking. Mentioned in 2 episodes already. I don't think her cough is the 19th century period drama kiss of death, but then again maybe that's wishful thinking. I don't think it's the virus, but with her weakened immune system she could be the first victim. I think either she's going to die from providing milk to Homelander (and that's a terrible fucking way to go) or she might get another dose of V and get stronger, more powers. Her firecracker could turn into TNT. But that would be entirely up to Homelander.

Did Ashley steal the rest of the V? Where's A-Train? Will killing Butcher's supe-tumor cure him of cancer? Where's Ryan? Please dear god wake Soldier Boy up, he is amazing. Will the enemies of Vought join together to form The Boys 2.0 and break the old boys out of the concentration camps?

More cleavage and more ass cheeks are my hopes for Season 5. I mean, some nice superheroine tits wouldn't hurt.

Firecracker!

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Posted: **Fri Jul 19, 2024 10:41 pm**

jlocke wrote: ↑
1 year ago
No Authoritarian, anti-democratic, self loving, narcissist, with a deep hatred for anyone who doesn't love him, would ever round up their political opponents and put them in camps. Not in the real world. Never been done before. Well, other than Germany. And Russia. I mean we did that a little, but it was like, a serious war. So anyway, "The Boys" really jumped the reality shark there.

The modern prison gulags of North Korea and Eritrea?

Khmer Rouge's Cambodia. Pinochet's Chile. Peron's Argentina. Fidel's Cuba. The French in Algeria. Ottoman Empire with the Armenians. Bosnia and Serbia. Sri Lanka with the Tamils during their civil war. The U.S. rounded up the Cherokee and the Dakota into prison camps.
South Vietnam put captured Viet Cong into political re-education camps. At various times, the UK interned the Boers, the Mau Maus, Holocaust survivors, Irish Republicans, and during WWII, the Germans, Austrians and Italians.

Did you know that Australia interned thousands of Germans in WWI and thousands more Germans and Italians in WWII? And right now, they are still interning asylum seekers on Nauru? New Zealand did it, too. Canada did the same thing during WWII, interning Germans, Italians and Japanese, and keeping some Jewish refugees in camps for a while too.

I mean, China's been doing that *right now* with Uygurs, Falun Gong, Christians etc. Somehow the PRC hasn't been able to get this page removed from Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_internment_camps

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But I'm not sure what point you're trying to make about 'reality'. My point has always been that The Boys TV show deals in HYPER-REALITY.
Because they can't just do clean fantasy like old-school superhero shows used to do. This isn't Lois & Clark or Smallville.

Their wokeness, their need to constantly be politically relevant (i.e. 'presentism') won't allow that. So, they incorporate whatever they can, about what's going on RIGHT NOW, into a deconstructive superhero universe which originally was just supposed to be about the writer (Garth Ennis) hating superheroes and thus trying to make a comic book series about them as fucked-up as possible in every conceivable way.

Problem is, sometimes the hyper-reality doesn't work. Take the idea about putting political enemies in camps. Who are actually going to be put in camps? The Boys, sure, but mostly whomever Homelander considers to be his enemies, who have been given the broad name 'Starlighters'. But what does 'Starlighters' actually mean? Other than the vague concept of millions of people being fans of the superheroine Starlight and whatever charity work she does or whatever vague feminism she represents.

'Starlighters' are not a very concrete group to put in camps. They're not like Uygurs, or Jews, or Japanese, or homosexuals. They're extremely ill-defined, even more so than 'Communists'. I could accept the premise if Homelanders designated everyone as 'Communist'. I mean, 'Commies' are even mentioned several times by the conservative propaganda machine. But 'Starlighters'? What does that even mean?

And sure, it'll be interesting to see what happens to Butcher's tumor. But even more so, I want to see how ugly and monstrous they can make Ashley. (This show's about body horror, remember? Not about being sexy.) I want to see what kind of horrible death befalls Firecracker. (I'm going to guess that her breasts explode?). And maybe eventually see Soldier Boy and Butcher team up together to drill a huge hole through Homelander's skull. Maybe Ryan will deliver the actual final coup-de-grace to his dear old Dad, maybe pulling his heart right out of his chest, Aztec-style. That would be boss.

Might as well go all-in for the gore and violence, right? We're not going to get anything else.

Posted: **Fri Jul 19, 2024 10:55 pm**

Another great behind the scenes photo of Firecracker. I love her attitude!

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Posted: **Sat Jul 20, 2024 1:32 am**

jlocke wrote: ↑
1 year ago
Need to rewatch the finale. Puppet President, Homelander in charge of the U.S.. Concentration camps for the...Starlighters. Very unrealistic in the real world. No Authoritarian, anti-democratic, self loving, narcissist, with a deep hatred for anyone who doesn't love him, would ever round up their political opponents and put them in camps. Not in the real world. Never been done before. Well, other than Germany. And Russia. I mean we did that a little, but it was like, a serious war. So anyway, "The Boys" really jumped the reality shark there.

Kind of nice when a story is well written and makes rational sense?

Posted: **Sat Jul 20, 2024 7:55 am**

shevek wrote: ↑
1 year ago

jlocke wrote: ↑
1 year ago
No Authoritarian, anti-democratic, self loving, narcissist, with a deep hatred for anyone who doesn't love him, would ever round up their political opponents and put them in camps. Not in the real world. Never been done before. Well, other than Germany. And Russia. I mean we did that a little, but it was like, a serious war. So anyway, "The Boys" really jumped the reality shark there.
The modern prison gulags of North Korea and Eritrea?

Khmer Rouge's Cambodia. Pinochet's Chile. Peron's Argentina. Fidel's Cuba. The French in Algeria. Ottoman Empire with the Armenians. Bosnia and Serbia. Sri Lanka with the Tamils during their civil war. The U.S. rounded up the Cherokee and the Dakota into prison camps.
South Vietnam put captured Viet Cong into political re-education camps. At various times, the UK interned the Boers, the Mau Maus, Holocaust survivors, Irish Republicans, and during WWII, the Germans, Austrians and Italians.

Did you know that Australia interned thousands of Germans in WWI and thousands more Germans and Italians in WWII? And right now, they are still interning asylum seekers on Nauru? New Zealand did it, too. Canada did the same thing during WWII, interning Germans, Italians and Japanese, and keeping some Jewish refugees in camps for a while too.

I mean, China's been doing that *right now* with Uygurs, Falun Gong, Christians etc. Somehow the PRC hasn't been able to get this page removed from Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_internment_camps

-------------

But I'm not sure what point you're trying to make about 'reality'. My point has always been that The Boys TV show deals in HYPER-REALITY.
Because they can't just do clean fantasy like old-school superhero shows used to do. This isn't Lois & Clark or Smallville.

Their wokeness, their need to constantly be politically relevant (i.e. 'presentism') won't allow that. So, they incorporate whatever they can, about what's going on RIGHT NOW, into a deconstructive superhero universe which originally was just supposed to be about the writer (Garth Ennis) hating superheroes and thus trying to make a comic book series about them as fucked-up as possible in every conceivable way.

Problem is, sometimes the hyper-reality doesn't work. Take the idea about putting political enemies in camps. Who are actually going to be put in camps? The Boys, sure, but mostly whomever Homelander considers to be his enemies, who have been given the broad name 'Starlighters'. But what does 'Starlighters' actually mean? Other than the vague concept of millions of people being fans of the superheroine Starlight and whatever charity work she does or whatever vague feminism she represents.

'Starlighters' are not a very concrete group to put in camps. They're not like Uygurs, or Jews, or Japanese, or homosexuals. They're extremely ill-defined, even more so than 'Communists'. I could accept the premise if Homelanders designated everyone as 'Communist'. I mean, 'Commies' are even mentioned several times by the conservative propaganda machine. But 'Starlighters'? What does that even mean?

And sure, it'll be interesting to see what happens to Butcher's tumor. But even more so, I want to see how ugly and monstrous they can make Ashley. (This show's about body horror, remember? Not about being sexy.) I want to see what kind of horrible death befalls Firecracker. (I'm going to guess that her breasts explode?). And maybe eventually see Soldier Boy and Butcher team up together to drill a huge hole through Homelander's skull. Maybe Ryan will deliver the actual final coup-de-grace to his dear old Dad, maybe pulling his heart right out of his chest, Aztec-style. That would be boss.

Might as well go all-in for the gore and violence, right? We're not going to get anything else.

The only rules The Boys have to follow are the one set in their universe. It goes back to the old Batman trope of "why don't they just shoot him?" They could, but the Universe doesn't allow it. The few times someone pulls a gun, he pulls out a Bat-shield or something.

The Starlighters that are going to be put into camps are going to be people that push back against Homelander. The early concentration camps of Germany were being filled with the opposition, not Jews.

Ashley will make a great Supe and I expect her to hop in to fight for The Boys periodically, wreaking havoc on the Minor Supes doing the grunt work for Homelander. I expect the Penis guy to be killed by Ashley. Ryan will help The Butcher, but will do a mercy killing of Butcher in the end.

The Boys does to a certain degree mirror the MCU's Civil War. In the MCU the Supes cause a lot of collateral damage saving the world. In The Boys, they cause it either out of careless indifference or for their own purposes. It will be interesting to see who picks sides. Starlight, A-Train, Mave and Ashley were all defectors from Vought. I can't imagine all the supes are going to side with Homelander. HomeLander will use the kill list to deceive some of the Supes, into siding with him. I think we will also see a few characters from Gen V showing up.

Posted: **Sat Jul 20, 2024 1:04 pm**

Mr. X wrote: ↑
1 year ago

jlocke wrote: ↑
1 year ago
Need to rewatch the finale. Puppet President, Homelander in charge of the U.S.. Concentration camps for the...Starlighters. Very unrealistic in the real world. No Authoritarian, anti-democratic, self loving, narcissist, with a deep hatred for anyone who doesn't love him, would ever round up their political opponents and put them in camps. Not in the real world. Never been done before. Well, other than Germany. And Russia. I mean we did that a little, but it was like, a serious war. So anyway, "The Boys" really jumped the reality shark there.
Kind of nice when a story is well written and makes rational sense?

It is, but I would prefer the plot to not so closely follow what's happening in the U.S. right now. I can get a dose of reality every time I go online (or outside in my deep red state).

Posted: **Sat Jul 20, 2024 2:16 pm**

jlocke wrote: ↑
1 year ago

Mr. X wrote: ↑
1 year ago

jlocke wrote: ↑
1 year ago
Need to rewatch the finale. Puppet President, Homelander in charge of the U.S.. Concentration camps for the...Starlighters. Very unrealistic in the real world. No Authoritarian, anti-democratic, self loving, narcissist, with a deep hatred for anyone who doesn't love him, would ever round up their political opponents and put them in camps. Not in the real world. Never been done before. Well, other than Germany. And Russia. I mean we did that a little, but it was like, a serious war. So anyway, "The Boys" really jumped the reality shark there.
Kind of nice when a story is well written and makes rational sense?
It is, but I would prefer the plot to not so closely follow what's happening in the U.S. right now. I can get a dose of reality every time I go online (or outside in my deep red state).

I meant this show is NOT well written and part of that is this absurd, jaundiced view the show has of what they think reality is.

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